QB Perspective Exercise - The Orange Mane

Vegas_Bronco · 09-14-2011, 07:56 PM

All time broncos quarterbacks - where will Orton finish up?

2011 Kyle Orton (1)
2010 Kyle Orton (13) / Tim Tebow (3)
2009 Kyle Orton (15) / Chris Simms (1)
2008 Jay Cutler (16)
2007 Jay Cutler (16)
2006 Jake Plummer (11) / Jay Cutler (5)
2005 Jake Plummer (16)
2004 Jake Plummer (16)
2003 Jake Plummer (11) / Steve Beuerlein (2) / Danny Kanell (2) / Jarious Jackson (1)
2002 Brian Griese (13) / Steve Beuerlein (3)
2001 Brian Griese (15) / Gus Frerotte (1)
2000 Brian Griese (10) / Gus Frerotte (6)
1999 Brian Griese (13) / Chris Miller (3)
1998 John Elway (12) / Bubby Brister (4)
1997 John Elway (16)
1996 John Elway (15) / Bill Musgrave (1)
1995 John Elway (16)
1994 John Elway (14) / Hugh Millen (2)
1993 John Elway (16)
1992 John Elway (12) / Tommy Maddox (4)
1991 John Elway (16)
1990 John Elway (16)
1989 John Elway (15) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1988 John Elway (15) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1987 John Elway (12) / Ken Karcher (3)
1986 John Elway (16)
1985 John Elway (16)
1984 John Elway (14) / Gary Kubiak (2)
1983 John Elway (10) / Steve DeBerg (5) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1982 Steve DeBerg (5) / Craig Morton (3) / Mark Herrmann (1)
1981 Craig Morton (15) / Steve DeBerg (1)
1980 Craig Morton (9) / Matt Robinson (7)
1979 Craig Morton (10) / Norris Weese (6)
1978 Craig Morton (13) / Craig Penrose (2) / Norris Weese (1)
1977 Craig Morton (14)
1976 Steve Ramsey (12) / Craig Penrose (2)
1975 Steve Ramsey (7) / Charley Johnson (6) / John Hufnagel (1)
1974 Charley Johnson (12) / Steve Ramsey (2)
1973 Charley Johnson (14)
1972 Charley Johnson (9) / Steve Ramsey (5)
1971 Don Horn (9) / Steve Ramsey (5)
1970 Pete Liske (9) / Chuck Pastrana (3) / Steve Tensi (2)

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it...I'm having a hard time putting Orton in front of Griese, Buerlein and Kubiak in terms of best to worst. Frerotte was troubling as was Chris Miller...but I dare say Orton is not as elusive as Griese, Buerlein and Kubiak. Stunningly, I'd say Jake Plummer has been the best qb in a broncos uniform since Elway. I think we can all agree that Cutler could have been, but that will never be a standard of measure - we had him in his young immature years. If we allow elusive orton to escape as a free agent where would you place him in terms of top 10 Broncos QBs all time?

OABB · 09-14-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Bronco

All time broncos quarterbacks - where will Orton finish up?

2011 Kyle Orton (1)
2010 Kyle Orton (13) / Tim Tebow (3)
2009 Kyle Orton (15) / Chris Simms (1)
2008 Jay Cutler (16)
2007 Jay Cutler (16)
2006 Jake Plummer (11) / Jay Cutler (5)
2005 Jake Plummer (16)
2004 Jake Plummer (16)
2003 Jake Plummer (11) / Steve Beuerlein (2) / Danny Kanell (2) / Jarious Jackson (1)
2002 Brian Griese (13) / Steve Beuerlein (3)
2001 Brian Griese (15) / Gus Frerotte (1)
2000 Brian Griese (10) / Gus Frerotte (6)
1999 Brian Griese (13) / Chris Miller (3)
1998 John Elway (12) / Bubby Brister (4)
1997 John Elway (16)
1996 John Elway (15) / Bill Musgrave (1)
1995 John Elway (16)
1994 John Elway (14) / Hugh Millen (2)
1993 John Elway (16)
1992 John Elway (12) / Tommy Maddox (4)
1991 John Elway (16)
1990 John Elway (16)
1989 John Elway (15) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1988 John Elway (15) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1987 John Elway (12) / Ken Karcher (3)
1986 John Elway (16)
1985 John Elway (16)
1984 John Elway (14) / Gary Kubiak (2)
1983 John Elway (10) / Steve DeBerg (5) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1982 Steve DeBerg (5) / Craig Morton (3) / Mark Herrmann (1)
1981 Craig Morton (15) / Steve DeBerg (1)
1980 Craig Morton (9) / Matt Robinson (7)
1979 Craig Morton (10) / Norris Weese (6)
1978 Craig Morton (13) / Craig Penrose (2) / Norris Weese (1)
1977 Craig Morton (14)
1976 Steve Ramsey (12) / Craig Penrose (2)
1975 Steve Ramsey (7) / Charley Johnson (6) / John Hufnagel (1)
1974 Charley Johnson (12) / Steve Ramsey (2)
1973 Charley Johnson (14)
1972 Charley Johnson (9) / Steve Ramsey (5)
1971 Don Horn (9) / Steve Ramsey (5)
1970 Pete Liske (9) / Chuck Pastrana (3) / Steve Tensi (2)

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it...I'm having a hard time putting Orton in front of Griese, Buerlein and Kubiak in terms of best to worst. Frerotte was troubling as was Chris Miller...but I dare say Orton is not as elusive as Griese, Buerlein and Kubiak. Stunningly, I'd say Jake Plummer has been the best qb in a broncos uniform since Elway. I think we can all agree that Cutler could have been, but that will never be a standard of measure - we had him in his young immature years. If we allow elusive orton to escape as a free agent where would you place him in terms of top 10 Broncos QBs all time?

just below tebow.

Crushaholic · 09-15-2011, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Bronco

Stunningly, I'd say Jake Plummer has been the best qb in a broncos uniform since Elway.

There shouldn't be anything "stunningly" about this. Plummer perfected the bootleg, and that caused trouble for a lot of defenses...

Flex Gunmetal · 09-15-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

There shouldn't be anything "stunningly" about this. Plummer perfected the bootleg, and that caused trouble for a lot of defenses...

I would assume roughly 100% of broncos fans would put Plummer @ #2.
Although Bubby stepped in nicely in 98. lol

oubronco · 09-15-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OABB

just below tebow.

Who's 3rd string behind Quinn

bronco militia · 09-15-2011, 08:12 AM

Thanks to Mcdaniels it's Plummer

won the most and went to the playoffs three straight years.

epicSocialism4tw · 09-15-2011, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas_Bronco

All time broncos quarterbacks - where will Orton finish up?

2011 Kyle Orton (1)
2010 Kyle Orton (13) / Tim Tebow (3)
2009 Kyle Orton (15) / Chris Simms (1)
2008 Jay Cutler (16)
2007 Jay Cutler (16)
2006 Jake Plummer (11) / Jay Cutler (5)
2005 Jake Plummer (16)
2004 Jake Plummer (16)
2003 Jake Plummer (11) / Steve Beuerlein (2) / Danny Kanell (2) / Jarious Jackson (1)
2002 Brian Griese (13) / Steve Beuerlein (3)
2001 Brian Griese (15) / Gus Frerotte (1)
2000 Brian Griese (10) / Gus Frerotte (6)
1999 Brian Griese (13) / Chris Miller (3)
1998 John Elway (12) / Bubby Brister (4)
1997 John Elway (16)
1996 John Elway (15) / Bill Musgrave (1)
1995 John Elway (16)
1994 John Elway (14) / Hugh Millen (2)
1993 John Elway (16)
1992 John Elway (12) / Tommy Maddox (4)
1991 John Elway (16)
1990 John Elway (16)
1989 John Elway (15) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1988 John Elway (15) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1987 John Elway (12) / Ken Karcher (3)
1986 John Elway (16)
1985 John Elway (16)
1984 John Elway (14) / Gary Kubiak (2)
1983 John Elway (10) / Steve DeBerg (5) / Gary Kubiak (1)
1982 Steve DeBerg (5) / Craig Morton (3) / Mark Herrmann (1)
1981 Craig Morton (15) / Steve DeBerg (1)
1980 Craig Morton (9) / Matt Robinson (7)
1979 Craig Morton (10) / Norris Weese (6)
1978 Craig Morton (13) / Craig Penrose (2) / Norris Weese (1)
1977 Craig Morton (14)
1976 Steve Ramsey (12) / Craig Penrose (2)
1975 Steve Ramsey (7) / Charley Johnson (6) / John Hufnagel (1)
1974 Charley Johnson (12) / Steve Ramsey (2)
1973 Charley Johnson (14)
1972 Charley Johnson (9) / Steve Ramsey (5)
1971 Don Horn (9) / Steve Ramsey (5)
1970 Pete Liske (9) / Chuck Pastrana (3) / Steve Tensi (2)

Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it...I'm having a hard time putting Orton in front of Griese, Buerlein and Kubiak in terms of best to worst. Frerotte was troubling as was Chris Miller...but I dare say Orton is not as elusive as Griese, Buerlein and Kubiak. Stunningly, I'd say Jake Plummer has been the best qb in a broncos uniform since Elway. I think we can all agree that Cutler could have been, but that will never be a standard of measure - we had him in his young immature years. If we allow elusive orton to escape as a free agent where would you place him in terms of top 10 Broncos QBs all time?

Yep, Plummer also led the Broncos to the playoffs and to an AFC title game.

ScottXray · 09-15-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flex Gunmetal

I would assume roughly 100% of broncos fans would put Plummer @ #2.
Although Bubby stepped in nicely in 98. lol

I'd put it as
Elway
Morton
Plummer
Johnson
Cutler

then its a multiple tie between all the rest. TT has no place since he has very limited time under center....he is a null until he gets a chance.

09-14-2011, 07:56 PM	#1
Vegas_Bronco Ring of Famer Fear is a lack of preparation. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 63 Yards Out Posts: 4,031 Adopt-a-Bronco: 1 Elam 1	QB Perspective Exercise All time broncos quarterbacks - where will Orton finish up? 2011 Kyle Orton (1) 2010 Kyle Orton (13) / Tim Tebow (3) 2009 Kyle Orton (15) / Chris Simms (1) 2008 Jay Cutler (16) 2007 Jay Cutler (16) 2006 Jake Plummer (11) / Jay Cutler (5) 2005 Jake Plummer (16) 2004 Jake Plummer (16) 2003 Jake Plummer (11) / Steve Beuerlein (2) / Danny Kanell (2) / Jarious Jackson (1) 2002 Brian Griese (13) / Steve Beuerlein (3) 2001 Brian Griese (15) / Gus Frerotte (1) 2000 Brian Griese (10) / Gus Frerotte (6) 1999 Brian Griese (13) / Chris Miller (3) 1998 John Elway (12) / Bubby Brister (4) 1997 John Elway (16) 1996 John Elway (15) / Bill Musgrave (1) 1995 John Elway (16) 1994 John Elway (14) / Hugh Millen (2) 1993 John Elway (16) 1992 John Elway (12) / Tommy Maddox (4) 1991 John Elway (16) 1990 John Elway (16) 1989 John Elway (15) / Gary Kubiak (1) 1988 John Elway (15) / Gary Kubiak (1) 1987 John Elway (12) / Ken Karcher (3) 1986 John Elway (16) 1985 John Elway (16) 1984 John Elway (14) / Gary Kubiak (2) 1983 John Elway (10) / Steve DeBerg (5) / Gary Kubiak (1) 1982 Steve DeBerg (5) / Craig Morton (3) / Mark Herrmann (1) 1981 Craig Morton (15) / Steve DeBerg (1) 1980 Craig Morton (9) / Matt Robinson (7) 1979 Craig Morton (10) / Norris Weese (6) 1978 Craig Morton (13) / Craig Penrose (2) / Norris Weese (1) 1977 Craig Morton (14) 1976 Steve Ramsey (12) / Craig Penrose (2) 1975 Steve Ramsey (7) / Charley Johnson (6) / John Hufnagel (1) 1974 Charley Johnson (12) / Steve Ramsey (2) 1973 Charley Johnson (14) 1972 Charley Johnson (9) / Steve Ramsey (5) 1971 Don Horn (9) / Steve Ramsey (5) 1970 Pete Liske (9) / Chuck Pastrana (3) / Steve Tensi (2) Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it...I'm having a hard time putting Orton in front of Griese, Buerlein and Kubiak in terms of best to worst. Frerotte was troubling as was Chris Miller...but I dare say Orton is not as elusive as Griese, Buerlein and Kubiak. Stunningly, I'd say Jake Plummer has been the best qb in a broncos uniform since Elway. I think we can all agree that Cutler could have been, but that will never be a standard of measure - we had him in his young immature years. If we allow elusive orton to escape as a free agent where would you place him in terms of top 10 Broncos QBs all time?

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09-15-2011, 08:12 AM	#6
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	Thanks to Mcdaniels it's Plummer won the most and went to the playoffs three straight years.