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Old 08-07-2017, 05:58 AM   #4301
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I don't understand the little finger thing at all
What's not to understand? Littlefinger declared the Vale to the Starks thinking Sansa would be leading the North and align with him. But Jon was crowned illegitimately and now Littlefinger is stuck in limbo, recalculating and probably hoping Jon is executed. He's cozying up to Sansa and Bran now in the event that either take Jon's place. But Arya's having none of it.
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Why not 3 dragons? What were the other 2 doing?
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They were fighting in The Battle of the Budgets.
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Also it may be difficult to control multiple dragons in a battle. Dany was steering and talking to Drogon. How would she command the other two and stop them from barbecuing her own soldiers?
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Also it may be difficult to control multiple dragons in a battle. Dany was steering and talking to Drogon. How would she command the other two and stop them from barbecuing her own soldiers?
Dany strategy had me confused. I thought when the Lannister army had lined up and prepared for the Dothraki attack, Dany was going to flank them and lay fire to the entire front line. Instead, she attacked head on. In doing so, she could of saved the food and countless number of Dothraki horseman.

How the hell did Tyrion greet Theon on the beach and still of made it to the battle?
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Old 08-07-2017, 06:32 AM   #4306
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What's not to understand? Littlefinger declared the Vale to the Starks thinking Sansa would be leading the North and align with him. But Jon was crowned illegitimately and now Littlefinger is stuck in limbo, recalculating and probably hoping Jon is executed. He's cozying up to Sansa and Bran now in the event that either take Jon's place. But Arya's having none of it.
So supposedly Bran has seen everything. He didn't see Littlefinger and the multiple number of time he had double crossed the Starks?

Maybe Bran did see this and is waiting for the right time. So when Littlefinger was talking about chaos and Bran interrupted him by saying chaos is a ladder. Maybe Bran is talking about Littlefinger is using chaos as a ladder for him to achieve his goal of the iron throne?
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What's not to understand? Littlefinger declared the Vale to the Starks thinking Sansa would be leading the North and align with him. But Jon was crowned illegitimately and now Littlefinger is stuck in limbo, recalculating and probably hoping Jon is executed. He's cozying up to Sansa and Bran now in the event that either take Jon's place. But Arya's having none of it.
That's it then? An alliance thing? What's the big deal then? It doesn't help I practically fall asleep anytime he's on screen he's the most boring character in the show
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Also it may be difficult to control multiple dragons in a battle. Dany was steering and talking to Drogon. How would she command the other two and stop them from barbecuing her own soldiers?
I think it's the budget, like the Stark wolves. Dany already controlled the 3 dragons in battle (when she burned the slavers' ships) and will probably do it again, after all her plan is to win the throne with those 3 dragons in battle. If she tells Drogon what to do, the other 2 probably just go along.
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How the hell did Tyrion greet Theon on the beach and still of made it to the battle?
It's a good question. Dragonstone isn't far from King's Landing. Per dialogue, the Lannister Army wasn't too far from KL's -- since the Tarly's told Jaime the gold had entered the gates safely. It doesn't seem likely that Tyrion could have made it there unless it happened over a couple of days and that wasn't implied.

However, Dragonstone is an island at the north beginning of Blackwater Bay. If most of Dany's fleets were destroyed, they had to have had enough boats to move the Dothraki Army by sea to get to their point of entry where they attacked them.

That was a big lapse for me from a geographic standpoint. Still enjoyed the episode.
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Littlefinger betrayed Ned Stark and got him killed. Bran should know it by now. Arya saw Littlefinger at the altar with the Lannisters when Ned was executed. Sansa was there too. So, Stark kids, kill Littlefinger please. I know he saved Jon Snow, but that's not enough.
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Where is Ghost? Dany is the mother of dragons. Jon should be repping that White Wolf title that Manderly gave him. Father of direwolves. I miss the days of Robb and his wolf intimidating everybody:
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How the hell did Tyrion greet Theon on the beach and still of made it to the battle?

He didnt. Jon met Theon on the beach.




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Oh ya that's right bro. I thought Lil Luke Skywalker was there too. But my geography question still stands!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So, while last night's episode was a lot of fun, it once again indulged in a phenomenon that is seriously killing the uniqueness of the show. Once again, we have two lead characters, Daenerys and Jaimie, engaged in a moment of mortal combat and because the writers aren't ready to lose either character, they are both going to live. One, if not both of these two characters should have died. These writers would have pardoned Ned Stark, had Renly survive the shadow assassin, and ensured that Rob and Caitlyn came out of the Red Wedding alive. When you put characters in these situations and they continue to miraculously come out unscathed, it completely undercuts the show.
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So, while last night's episode was a lot of fun, it once again indulged in a phenomenon that is seriously killing the uniqueness of the show. Once again, we have two lead characters, Daenerys and Jaimie, engaged in a moment of mortal combat and because the writers aren't ready to lose either character, they are both going to live. One, if not both of these two characters should have died. These writers would have pardoned Ned Stark, had Renly survive the shadow assassin, and ensured that Rob and Caitlyn came out of the Red Wedding alive. When you put characters in these situations and they continue to miraculously come out unscathed, it completely undercuts the show.
I disagree. Besides, Ned, Catelyn, and Rob were never principal characters in the entire story arc.
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I disagree. Besides, Ned, Catelyn, and Rob were never principal characters in the entire story arc.

Well they were. But I look at Game of Thrones like the Hundred Years War or, borrowing from Mass Effect (original trilogy's) Protheans, the ones who fought and intrigued in the beginning of the conflict did not matter or had no impact on the middle or late stages of the conflict. Just a link in the story we are being told.

The people who are left now are the end game. If the writers are NOT killing off a character, it's because they have a sister to slay, a nephew to marry (eww) and a night king to crush.

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So, while last night's episode was a lot of fun, it once again indulged in a phenomenon that is seriously killing the uniqueness of the show. Once again, we have two lead characters, Daenerys and Jaimie, engaged in a moment of mortal combat and because the writers aren't ready to lose either character, they are both going to live. One, if not both of these two characters should have died. These writers would have pardoned Ned Stark, had Renly survive the shadow assassin, and ensured that Rob and Caitlyn came out of the Red Wedding alive. When you put characters in these situations and they continue to miraculously come out unscathed, it completely undercuts the show.
100% agree
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The only issue I had with season 7's opener was the 2 minutes of Sam and chamberpots. Point was made 20 seconds in. We get it. Move on.

They were working on capturing the scat porn demographic. To your point however 20 secs was plenty.
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Theon is hardly a villain now. He took his medicine and then some. He's just a scared weakling who is in the forefront because of his sister.
Great acting by him. Even the way he jumped overboard reeked of cowardice.
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Dany strategy had me confused. I thought when the Lannister army had lined up and prepared for the Dothraki attack, Dany was going to flank them and lay fire to the entire front line. Instead, she attacked head on. In doing so, she could of saved the food and countless number of Dothraki horseman.

How the hell did Tyrion greet Theon on the beach and still of made it to the battle?
That's a great point but I don't think to many Dothranki died anyways. I wondered why Danny was burning up all the food too.
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It's a good question. Dragonstone isn't far from King's Landing. Per dialogue, the Lannister Army wasn't too far from KL's -- since the Tarly's told Jaime the gold had entered the gates safely. It doesn't seem likely that Tyrion could have made it there unless it happened over a couple of days and that wasn't implied.

However, Dragonstone is an island at the north beginning of Blackwater Bay. If most of Dany's fleets were destroyed, they had to have had enough boats to move the Dothraki Army by sea to get to their point of entry where they attacked them.

That was a big lapse for me from a geographic standpoint. Still enjoyed the episode.
There's no geography problem. The Lannister army first looted the area around Highgarden, including harvesting crops in the field. They then marched up the Roseroad on foot, with a large train of wagons, from Highgarden toward King's Landing. This is a matter of several days if not weeks. When the attack happened, Tarly mentioned that they were crossing the Blackwater Rush.

Dany's army, on the other hand, started off closer to King's landing on Dragonstone. It was mentioned that they still had sufficient ships to transport the Dothraki. They only had to make a short trip to somewhere on the Blackwater bay out of sight of the Lannisters--somewhere near the mouth of the Wendwater would work. Then, her fully mounted army and flying dragon would move much faster than the Lannister army on foot, with a large baggage train. And they could have landed on Westeros well ahead of when the Lannister army reached the Blackwater Rush during the period when the army was looting, loading, and marching.
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I guess I didn't realize they said they had enough boats still for the Dothraki. I was under the impression they didn't have many left or enough for them.
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So, while last night's episode was a lot of fun, it once again indulged in a phenomenon that is seriously killing the uniqueness of the show. Once again, we have two lead characters, Daenerys and Jaimie, engaged in a moment of mortal combat and because the writers aren't ready to lose either character, they are both going to live. One, if not both of these two characters should have died. These writers would have pardoned Ned Stark, had Renly survive the shadow assassin, and ensured that Rob and Caitlyn came out of the Red Wedding alive. When you put characters in these situations and they continue to miraculously come out unscathed, it completely undercuts the show.
I see your point. None of the main characters died. Even the supporting character Dickon survived (we didn't see him die). I think Martin would have the Dragon and Jamie die.
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