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Old 11-07-2018, 01:46 AM   #151
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Do you think we win that Super Bowl with Radio as our DC rather than Wade? Because that was Elway's preference.
What would speak in favor of Elway is if we kept winning after he showed Wade the door. Yeah that didn't happen.

I swear it's like people are ignoring the shambles we are in right now.

Sidenote: I'm more livid and I wouldn't be sad if Elway left, but I think its within reason he gets to pick another coach.

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Old 11-07-2018, 06:53 AM   #152
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Do you think we win that Super Bowl with Radio as our DC rather than Wade? Because that was Elway's preference.
No I don't, and I pretty much said as much in the original post. But there's a lot of competent DCs might not have got the best out of those players the way Wade did because their approach is different.

But Elway's strange fascination with VJ is definitely his biggest question mark right now - he clearly sees something in the guy that we don't and we need to see how that plays out. Just because he's backing him now, does not mean he isn't sacking him once the season's over. I think its 50/50 at this point.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:05 AM   #153
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In looking over a few of your posts, How old are you? I hear it gets better when you get to high school.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:17 AM   #154
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Do you think we win that Super Bowl with Radio as our DC rather than Wade? Because that was Elway's preference.
Well we didn't win one in 2016 with Wade as our DC either, and the 2017 defense was statistically very close to both 2015 and 2016.

I think it falls almost 100% on the HC honestly. Yes, that's still Elway's hire I know.

Switch out VJ for Kubiak and keep every other coach and player the same...and I think we win the AFC West this season. I mean, Freeman and Lindsay with an improved o-line? Suddenly serviceable Tight ends?
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:48 AM   #155
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Elway is the face of the franchise..Without him, this board doesn't exist.
He should be given more opportunities compared to others. we won SB50 few years back.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:50 PM   #156
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You don't have to believe anyone's opinions here.

All you have to do is watch the guys that were drafted this year play, watch Demarcus Walker get into the backfield consistently when the coaches actually activate him, see Heuerman break tackles and make first downs now that Keenum doesn't have DT, see how well Cravens played outside of a holding call, Wilkinson outplayed Max Garcia and so on.

This team is not lacking talent outside the QB position and head coach who sucks at reading the game.

We're one good QB away from being a playoff team and people want to blow the whole thing up.
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:59 PM   #157
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Well we didn't win one in 2016 with Wade as our DC either, and the 2017 defense was statistically very close to both 2015 and 2016.

I think it falls almost 100% on the HC honestly. Yes, that's still Elway's hire I know.

Switch out VJ for Kubiak and keep every other coach and player the same...and I think we win the AFC West this season. I mean, Freeman and Lindsay with an improved o-line? Suddenly serviceable Tight ends?


2016s defense was better than 17-18. 5 pro bowlers 3 all pros on that defense. They carried Siemian to a 9-7 record.

2017s defense took a step back but wasn’t total garbage. 2018 no longer the no fly.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:10 PM   #158
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Elway wanted to hire Radio as our DC over Wade. He lucked out, nothing more.

Cherry picking.

Everyone is a stud GM after the fact.


I seem to remember you calling for Wade......er wait....that was nobody else.

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Old 11-07-2018, 06:53 PM   #159
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Cherry picking.

Everyone is a stud GM after the fact.


I seem to remember you calling for Wade......er wait....that was nobody else.

The only cherry picking going on is on your end. I'm operating off of the whole resume, and, aside from the Manning signing, it's pretty bad.
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The only cherry picking going on is on your end. I'm operating off of the whole resume, and, aside from the Manning signing, it's pretty bad.
5 division championships. 2 Hunt trophies. 1 Lombardi.

Yeah, that's a terrible resume alright.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:52 PM   #161
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Elway is in tank mode.
Haven't you guys figured it out?
We fire the only QB that can save us.
Refuse to change Coaches.
Trade DT.

This is Tank mode.
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:56 PM   #162
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5 division championships. 2 Hunt trophies. 1 Lombardi.

Yeah, that's a terrible resume alright.
All the direct result of the Manning signing and having to settle for Wade instead of Radio for DC. How are things going post-Manning?
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Haven't crossed the ditch yet.

Already threw the Keenum & VJ bale in the gap. Just have to cross all the way over.

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Old 11-07-2018, 09:40 PM   #164
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Who chose those three people?

You also forgot the OC.

I dont know. Prob the same person that chose Kubiak, Peyton, Wade, Von, Wolfe, harris, Trev, Talib, Sanders, Welker, Lindsey,.......The longest broncos win streak in broncos history. Most wins in an nfl span. Two superbowl appearances. The #1 offense in the history of the NFL. One of the best Defenses in the History of the NFL.


That guy chose them.
Oh, I forgot, Chubb and Sutton, and the DL coach that everyone likes.
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:57 PM   #165
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Acting as if we were doing good before Elway was hired...

Elway is the reason we won SB50...be grateful to him.
many of the teams(except patriots) are not winning on a consistent basis.

we need a better coach and a QB... I have full confidence in Elway that he will hire a good coach this time.
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:05 PM   #166
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You think Elway, Kubiak, VJ, coaches and front office don't spend more time thinking about this then you do?? With a helluva lot more experience than you have? Buncha pansyass keyboard children.
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You don't have to believe anyone's opinions here.

All you have to do is watch the guys that were drafted this year play, watch Demarcus Walker get into the backfield consistently when the coaches actually activate him, see Heuerman break tackles and make first downs now that Keenum doesn't have DT, see how well Cravens played outside of a holding call, Wilkinson outplayed Max Garcia and so on.

This team is not lacking talent outside the QB position and head coach who sucks at reading the game.

We're one good QB away from being a playoff team and people want to blow the whole thing up.
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:15 PM   #169
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Old 11-08-2018, 12:58 PM   #170
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Oh I LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV the man in his new capacity as GM. May his reign last 1000 generations!!

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All the direct result of the Manning signing and having to settle for Wade instead of Radio for DC. How are things going post-Manning?



How does any team do post HOF QB?

How did we do when Elway retired?
How did the 9ers do when they lost Joe and Steve?
How did the dolphins do post Marino?
How did the vikings do post cupepper
How did the eagles do post Cunningham
Titans post mcnabb?
Rams post Warner?


How does any team do when they have a HOF QB retire? Only like 2 have ever had good luck with a QB waiting in the wings. You know better than this.
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Oh I LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV the man in his new capacity as GM. May his reign last 1000 years!


Careful what you wish for
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:48 PM   #173
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You are correct. After I posted that, I got to thinking that I had not given Elway his proper due and adoration.

Please scroll above to see corrected edit.

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How does any team do post HOF QB?

How did we do when Elway retired?
How did the 9ers do when they lost Joe and Steve?
How did the dolphins do post Marino?
How did the vikings do post cupepper
How did the eagles do post Cunningham
Titans post mcnabb?
Rams post Warner?


How does any team do when they have a HOF QB retire? Only like 2 have ever had good luck with a QB waiting in the wings. You know better than this.
Elway only waited one year to acquire his next HOF QB Kyle F'n Sloter. But then let him go.

Bolded statement is funny, you must be new here.
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Elway only waited one year to acquire his next HOF QB Kyle F'n Sloter. But then let him go.

Bolded statement is funny, you must be new here.
Isnt he Lex?
He knows better even when he has some bad takes. Broncowarrior knows that, so does hope chest. He should know better.
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