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Old 03-16-2018, 01:03 PM   #51
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Keenum isn't as good at handball.
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Old 03-16-2018, 01:28 PM   #52
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Anyone still pining for QB at 5 is nuts. Elway wants to win now. Whether that is realistic, who knows. But if he's serious about it he drafts an immediate impact player at 5. Not a QB to sit for a year. If we're rebuilding then he needs to focus on QB at 5 and not blow $25m on Keenum.

Get some help on both lines and add some dynamic elements to the offense.
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Anyone still pining for QB at 5 is nuts. Elway wants to win now. Whether that is realistic, who knows. But if he's serious about it he drafts an immediate impact player at 5. Not a QB to sit for a year. If we're rebuilding then he needs to focus on QB at 5 and not blow $25m on Keenum.

Get some help on both lines and add some dynamic elements to the offense.
Is that why Elway skipped the first day of FA to watch Mayfield?
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Is that why Elway skipped the first day of FA to watch Mayfield?

Like most GMs...he travels. And oddly a guy we have interest in coincidentally had his proday the same day FA kicked off. But Im sure the only technology Denver has available to speak with free agents is that damn fax machine stuck in the janitor's closet at Dove Valley. Cell phones and laptops? Pshh. Shenanigans, says you.


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Like most GMs...he travels. And oddly a guy we have interest in coincidentally had his proday the same day FA kicked off. But Im sure the only technology Denver has available to speak with free agents is that damn fax machine stuck in the janitor's closet at Dove Valley. Cell phones and laptops? Pshh. Shenanigans, says you.


Dude why are you so defensive lately? I understand being a fan, but damn.

It was reported that other teams had sent assistants/coordinators and that Elway was one of the few GMs present at Mayfield's pro day. Or was he the only GM? Hardly a coincidence IMO and I highly doubt Elway is ahead of the curve when it comes to GM'ing remotely lol.
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"We got our guy."

"As opposed to 'a' guy."

"But I'm not saying he's not 'a' guy. But he's our guy who also happens to be 'a' guy."

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Anyone still pining for QB at 5 is nuts. Elway wants to win now. Whether that is realistic, who knows. But if he's serious about it he drafts an immediate impact player at 5. Not a QB to sit for a year. If we're rebuilding then he needs to focus on QB at 5 and not blow $25m on Keenum.

Get some help on both lines and add some dynamic elements to the offense.
That two year contract should be a hint, but some of you are slow on the uptake.
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Dude why are you so defensive lately? I understand being a fan, but damn.

Because you sound like Elway and you had a one night stand and he has not called you back and you seem butt hurt about it. I dont care if you have legitimate complaints, but his being at a proday doing his job shouldnt be one of them.


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Anyone still pining for QB at 5 is nuts. Elway wants to win now. Whether that is realistic, who knows. But if he's serious about it he drafts an immediate impact player at 5. Not a QB to sit for a year. If we're rebuilding then he needs to focus on QB at 5 and not blow $25m on Keenum.

Get some help on both lines and add some dynamic elements to the offense.
Wednesday (first day of FA), Thursday (second day of FA), Kubes, Elway, VJ, and 4 others were at Rosen and Baker's pro day.

Keenum's contract is only 2 years. Sure they might not take a QB, but they're not showing any signs they're ok with Keenum going forward as the guy.
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Because you sound like Elway and you had a one night stand and he has not called you back and you seem butt hurt about it. I dont care if you have legitimate complaints, but his being at a proday doing his job shouldnt be one of them.


Fair enough. You sound like Elway's wife.
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And you sound like Elway's wife.

Sir, did you just call me a raider cheerleader?




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I'm honestly closer to Cold City's side on this one.....sad as it is to say.

I just don't see where Keenum is that much better than Siemian.....if at all. And his cap his is what? 10 times what Siemian's is this year? If the plan is still to draft a guy with the #5 pick, they really should've just kept Siemian or Osweiler for pennies. I know that was an impossibility after the year end presser where they promised big changes at the position, and it would've looked bad, but Keenum is kind of a big-time waste of money for not much improvement if any.
I totally get the feeling but that's why we play the season. I for one welcome our new Case Overlord. As a personality on the Orangemane I could help Roundup others to toil in the Keenum sugar mines.
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I'm honestly closer to Cold City's side on this one.....sad as it is to say.

I just don't see where Keenum is that much better than Siemian.....if at all. And his cap his is what? 10 times what Siemian's is this year? If the plan is still to draft a guy with the #5 pick, they really should've just kept Siemian or Osweiler for pennies. I know that was an impossibility after the year end presser where they promised big changes at the position, and it would've looked bad, but Keenum is kind of a big-time waste of money for not much improvement if any.
Keenum can be an average qb which is ten times the qb That Siemian is
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Keenum can be an average qb which is ten times the qb That Siemian is
You really need a new thing.
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Well right now, who else would it be?
Well, of course VJ and Elway should have named Kelly the backup already because he's working out in the off-season.




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Is that why Elway skipped the first day of FA to watch Mayfield?
Nope. He was there to scout other OU players, Brown, and make other teams think they need to get in front of us if they want a QB.
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I agree. Iím coming after you from now on.

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I look forward to it!
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The Truth is cold. Ice Cold.

Elway introduces him case K eEsUM

Lol horse face gm, so clueless
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Old 03-16-2018, 06:58 PM   #74
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The idea of Keenum being the QB is starting to grow on me. The Rich Gannon comparison has been made. Gannon just needed a team to finally commit to him. Thankfully that wasn't the Chiefs in '97. When he finally got a chance to be the guy he flourished. The Alex Smith comparison has also been made. If Keenum is simply Smith, that could work, as long as the defense is still highly ranked. I'm still a little ticked that Talib isn't coming back, so I'm not so confident that the pass defense will be as good. But they weren't highly ranked based on Talib alone.

ESPN's Will Cain, who I do not make a habit of agreeing with (mainly due to his politics), made a pretty good point. He said that last year Keenum was basically Kirk Cousins. Similar completion percentage and TD/Int ratio. But the question is can Keenum do it again. The Vikings weren't banking on that. They paid for Cousins to make sure that they would get similar production. Keenum could just be a one year wonder.

If Keenum isn't just a one year wonder, and he can produce like he did last year, the Broncos O will be a lot better. Keenum isn't elite, but if he can be a 2nd tier caliber QB, the Broncos O will be a lot better simply from having competent QB play.

There are a number of "ifs" with Keenum, which isn't very settling. But we know that Siemian sucked, and there is no faith that Lynch will get it. There is some level of faith that Keenum can be good enough. At least much better than Siemian. But, Keenum could have put up that career year simply because he played with pretty good talent last year.

I'd say that there is some hope now. With Siemian and Lynch, there was no hope. And if Keenum doesn't work out, they aren't stuck with a crazy contract. This was probably the best of some undesirable situations. Cousins at $28 million or Keenum at $18 million? Keenum might end up being the better deal.
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Case is better than any QB the Broncos had on their roster last season. The main difference is going to be pocket awareness and ability to get the throw off, instead of taking sacks.
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