The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Orange Mane Discussion > Orange Mane Central Discussion
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read





Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-16-2018, 11:46 AM   #26
GoneFishin'
Ring of Famer
 
GoneFishin''s Avatar
 
Longtime listener first time caller

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,835

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco View Post
I'm honestly closer to Cold City's side on this one.....sad as it is to say.

I just don't see where Keenum is that much better than Siemian.....if at all. And his cap his is what? 10 times what Siemian's is this year? If the plan is still to draft a guy with the #5 pick, they really should've just kept Siemian or Osweiler for pennies. I know that was an impossibility after the year end presser where they promised big changes at the position, and it would've looked bad, but Keenum is kind of a big-time waste of money for not much improvement if any.
Case Keenum has game. Siemian just has no baller in him at all. He's kind of a stiff. I bet when Trevor plays basketball he doesn't even dribble between his legs.
GoneFishin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 11:48 AM   #27
SonOfLe-loLang
Young Buck
 
SonOfLe-loLang's Avatar
 
For Gort

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 43,431

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Thunder (RIP)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco View Post
I'm honestly closer to Cold City's side on this one.....sad as it is to say.

I just don't see where Keenum is that much better than Siemian.....if at all. And his cap his is what? 10 times what Siemian's is this year? If the plan is still to draft a guy with the #5 pick, they really should've just kept Siemian or Osweiler for pennies. I know that was an impossibility after the year end presser where they promised big changes at the position, and it would've looked bad, but Keenum is kind of a big-time waste of money for not much improvement if any.
This is just false. Obviously they are basing there hope on Keenum's performance last year and, last year, he was very consistent. Most of great quarterbacking comes down to consistency and Siemian was woefully inconsistent. Physically, not much separates any of these guys.
SonOfLe-loLang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 11:49 AM   #28
GoneFishin'
Ring of Famer
 
GoneFishin''s Avatar
 
Longtime listener first time caller

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,835

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default




THIS IS ONLY THE START....we're getting a QB Top 5


GoneFishin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 11:50 AM   #29
DENVERDUI55
Gambling is a SIN^^^^^^
 
DENVERDUI55's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 15,908

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Case will lead Denver on the uptick. He will get VJ fired by week 12.
DENVERDUI55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 11:55 AM   #30
GoneFishin'
Ring of Famer
 
GoneFishin''s Avatar
 
Longtime listener first time caller

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,835

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

"Mentality"...we've learned from out Paxton mistake



GoneFishin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 11:56 AM   #31
Coldcity76
Ring of Famer
 
Coldcity76's Avatar
 
Broncos < Chiefs/Raiders/Chargers

Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Highlands Ranch, CO
Posts: 2,233

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Bruce Smith
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2KBack View Post
This pretty poor analysis overall, but to be expected I guess.

First off, a fumble lost is a turnover...not a fumble. He has lost 7 in his career. Peyton Manning lost 6 fumbles in 2013 alone.

You are using career games, instead of starts, which will always throw things off for good or ill.

You are comparing 2016's where Trevor Simian was on a Superbowl Caliber team and Case was on Fishers disaster of a team.

The info is far too dirty to make these kinds of analysis. Of course, we could point out that Keenum's 2017 was better than any Denver QB since 2014, and have a freakin' Superbowl victory in than span.
It is as accurate as it was for Trevor Semian and you like the bandwagon person you are non-thinking ape loved you some semen.
Coldcity76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 11:58 AM   #32
GoneFishin'
Ring of Famer
 
GoneFishin''s Avatar
 
Longtime listener first time caller

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,835

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default









GoneFishin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:00 PM   #33
GoneFishin'
Ring of Famer
 
GoneFishin''s Avatar
 
Longtime listener first time caller

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,835

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default


GoneFishin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:03 PM   #34
2KBack
Rumblin' Bumblin'
 
2KBack's Avatar
 
Cake is delicious

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wash DC
Posts: 11,046
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldcity76 View Post
It is as accurate as it was for Trevor Semian and you like the bandwagon person you are non-thinking ape loved you some Seimian.
Could you add some punctuation so this ape can figure out what you wrote?
2KBack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:03 PM   #35
GoneFishin'
Ring of Famer
 
GoneFishin''s Avatar
 
Longtime listener first time caller

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,835

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default


GoneFishin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:04 PM   #36
GoneFishin'
Ring of Famer
 
GoneFishin''s Avatar
 
Longtime listener first time caller

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,835

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

A hint at Talib..and a hint at Paxton..
GoneFishin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:06 PM   #37
socalorado
Ring of Famer
 
socalorado's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 19,427
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2KBack View Post
Could you add some punctuation so this ape can figure out what you wrote?

1st thing I thought. WTF!?!
socalorado is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:15 PM   #38
delany
Uber Bronco
 
delany's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,145
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneFishin' View Post
A hint at Talib..and a hint at Paxton..
Talib was exactly who I thought about with that quote. Some here like to call it 'kicking and screaming'...in the locker room this past year, based on reports, it felt more like crying and screaming.

Maturity is needed.
delany is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:15 PM   #39
v2micca
This is the Water
 
v2micca's Avatar
 
and this is the well.

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 2,493
Default

Case Keenum isn't anything to get excited about. But, the deal makes it pretty obvious that he is a transition option only while the Broncos attempt to find a Franchise QB by other means.

And honestly, I'm okay with that. Even if we did have a potential Franchise QB on the roster, I wouldn't want to put him out there behind this O-line right now. Especially not with, Houston, Mack, and Bosa all in the same division.

So, let's spend the next two years building an all world Offensive Line and a solid running game. Then think about investing a premium pick in a QB to develop into our next franchise signal caller.
v2micca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:16 PM   #40
SonOfLe-loLang
Young Buck
 
SonOfLe-loLang's Avatar
 
For Gort

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 43,431

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Thunder (RIP)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneFishin' View Post

Well right now, who else would it be?
SonOfLe-loLang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:18 PM   #41
GoneFishin'
Ring of Famer
 
GoneFishin''s Avatar
 
Longtime listener first time caller

Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,835

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang View Post
Well right now, who else would it be?
GoneFishin' is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:22 PM   #42
jutang
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,588
Default

The best thing about Keenum stats is that he has shown Improvement each year.

His completion percentage and average yards per completion improved even under the Jeff Fisher year. After being able to reflect on Keenum signing, I feel the Broncos made the best decision with what the market had available.
jutang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:23 PM   #43
TonyR
Franchise Poster
 
TonyR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Posts: 35,439
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldcity76 View Post
Case Keenum is just another Trevor Semian. He plays almost identical because he was also coached by Gary Kubiak in Houston.
Keenum plays almost nothing like Siemian. Completely different players.
TonyR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:24 PM   #44
TonyR
Franchise Poster
 
TonyR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Posts: 35,439
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GoneFishin' View Post
It's actually not arguable at all. Keenum had the better year.
TonyR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:24 PM   #45
SonOfLe-loLang
Young Buck
 
SonOfLe-loLang's Avatar
 
For Gort

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 43,431

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Thunder (RIP)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyR View Post
Keenum plays almost nothing like Siemian. Completely different players.
That too. They are both white, righty QBs... and that's about it.
SonOfLe-loLang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:51 PM   #46
CEH
Ring of Famer
 
CEH's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,564
Default

Case slides and moves in the pocket and finds the holes
Trevor drifts and then takes a sack
CEH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:56 PM   #47
Guess Who
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,099
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnykbr View Post
Jamaal Charles produced on the field. It wasn't his fault we screwed him over
They never played him b/c they didn't want him reaching his incentives. Stay classy Denver
Guess Who is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 12:57 PM   #48
bowtown
Ring of Famer
 
bowtown's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,906

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Casey Kreiter
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by delany View Post
Talib was exactly who I thought about with that quote. Some here like to call it 'kicking and screaming'...in the locker room this past year, based on reports, it felt more like crying and screaming.

Maturity is needed.
The kicking and screaming guys tend to devolve into that when you aren't winning. That's the down side to guys like that.
bowtown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 01:01 PM   #49
Guess Who
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,099
Default

Keenum's game is a lot like Plummer. Short, Moves around, pretty good arm. I think Keenum is tougher.
Guess Who is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2018, 01:02 PM   #50
SonOfLe-loLang
Young Buck
 
SonOfLe-loLang's Avatar
 
For Gort

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 43,431

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Thunder (RIP)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guess Who View Post
Keenum's game is a lot like Plummer. Short, Moves around, pretty good arm. I think Keenum is tougher.
Keenum is more accurate
SonOfLe-loLang is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:30 AM.


Denver Broncos