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Old 03-25-2014, 06:29 AM   #1
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Default Ex-NFL QB Jim Kelly battling aggressive form of cancer...

I know people deal with cancer every day, but it's never fun to see stories like this...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/wife-ji...5591--nfl.html
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:53 AM   #2
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Jeez he's only 54. That family has had a lot of heart-breaking health issues.
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Old 03-25-2014, 07:08 AM   #3
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I have a friend who told me some people think there is a direct link between people who have cancer and have also had a root canal done on their teeth. Something about how that stuff the dentists use to fill in the canal where the root once was is toxic. I'm wondering if JK has ever had a root canal done...
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:01 AM   #4
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He is a god in Buffalo. I remember going to the games as a kid, nobody tougher than Jim Kelly- Bills fans have always longed for him getting involved with the organization.

Really sad to hear-
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:05 AM   #5
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I have a friend who told me some people think there is a direct link between people who have cancer and have also had a root canal done on their teeth. Something about how that stuff the dentists use to fill in the canal where the root once was is toxic. I'm wondering if JK has ever had a root canal done...
I don't know about that... but he was a chewing tobacco guy all through his career.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:08 AM   #6
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I have a friend who told me some people think there is a direct link between people who have cancer and have also had a root canal done on their teeth. Something about how that stuff the dentists use to fill in the canal where the root once was is toxic. I'm wondering if JK has ever had a root canal done...
I had heard that too.

I really should've just gotten mine pulled from the get go since it ended up lasting less than two years (with a retreatment) because I was a fiendish ice chewer.

I ended up getting an lower second molar implant.
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:25 AM   #7
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I don't know about that... but he was a chewing tobacco guy all through his career.
Much more likely explanation than getting a root canal.
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I had heard that too.

I really should've just gotten mine pulled from the get go since it ended up lasting less than two years (with a retreatment) because I was a fiendish ice chewer.

I ended up getting an lower second molar implant.
Unfortunately there are health issues with the implants too.
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Hpv is the most common cause for squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck in my patients. It is usually very responsive to radiation, but radiation to the head and neck is pretty miserable. Almost universally requires a feeding tube to survive. Sometimes a tracheostomy as well. There is a vaccine for HPV. My children will get this vaccine for this reason.
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I have a friend who told me some people think there is a direct link between people who have cancer and have also had a root canal done on their teeth. Something about how that stuff the dentists use to fill in the canal where the root once was is toxic. I'm wondering if JK has ever had a root canal done...
You're on a roll today.
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I have a friend who told me some people think there is a direct link between people who have cancer and have also had a root canal done on their teeth. Something about how that stuff the dentists use to fill in the canal where the root once was is toxic. I'm wondering if JK has ever had a root canal done...
Saw a link on FB about that and a doctor from the 20s (I believe) was one of the first to mention this but took another doctor to follow up on it. Ive had 2 root canals so we shall see for me. Did he ever smoke or chew tobacco?
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Unfortunately there are health issues with the implants too.
Yeah, it can be a hassle to keep it clean under the crown.

I probably would've not gotten one had it been all the way in the back and not between two teeth.

I've read about some people having reactions to them, but mine seems to be cooperating.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:58 PM   #13
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Update:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ate-his-cancer

"Because of complexity and aggressive nature of this cancer and after more scans and tests, the plan has changed," Jill Kelly wrote on her Facebook page. "At this point, Jim will not be having surgery ... Therefore, the medical specialists here in NYC along with our Buffalo team believe that chemotherapy and radiation are the best option."
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:15 PM   #14
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God bless him and his family.

Despite not having won a Superbowl, Jim Kelly was like the Drew Brees of that era. He was an amazing competitor, and the nucleus of one of the all time great teams in NFL history. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY felt good about their chances when playing Buffalo in that era. For four years - 1990 to 1993, this is a team that went to the Superbowl each year and had no less than 11 wins - most of the time is was 12 and 13 wins. Think about that - to have a constant target on your back as the reigning AFC Champ and still be able to dominate. Let's hope our team has this kind of mettle.

I'm sad for Jim Kelly and his family and hope and pray for the best for him. While I was an anti-fan, without a doubt, Jim Kelly made my childhood that much more interesting.
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:25 PM   #15
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First his kid. Now this? I feel for the guy. Outside of Elway, my favorite QB of the '80's.
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:38 PM   #16
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Cancer sucks. I wish him and his family the best.
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I lost my best friend last month to leukemia. He endured suffering beyond belief and was never out of the hospital for more that a day or two over the last year and a half. Seeing that picture of Jim Kelly hugging his dad from the hospital bed ripped the scab right off me. God bless Jim Kelly and his family.
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Old 03-26-2014, 04:49 PM   #18
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Seeing someone you love and are close to suffer through it all is a terrible thing.

I watched my dad fight it for over three years and it was an awful thing to see happen to someone you're close to.

Every scan, test, and MRI is a nerve wracking experience for everyone involved and watching the situation slowly get worse and worse is a gut wrenching, sickening, and helpless feeling.

I wouldn't wish that **** on my worst of enemies.

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Old 03-26-2014, 07:56 PM   #19
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I am super ****ed.
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I really feel for Kelly, he was all class and a great talent.

Dude deserved to win their 1st SB.

I hope he enjoys every day he has.
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He's already had a part of his jaw and some teeth removed from a previous surgery, so he's already had to put up with enough as it is. Hopefully he will beat this.
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Hpv is the most common cause for squamous cell carcinoma of the head and neck in my patients. It is usually very responsive to radiation, but radiation to the head and neck is pretty miserable. Almost universally requires a feeding tube to survive. Sometimes a tracheostomy as well. There is a vaccine for HPV. My children will get this vaccine for this reason.
Some of the HNC patients we treat end up looking like they have been burned, it is some nasty **** but it works. Chewing tobacco and a few forms of smoke inhalation are pretty big risk factors for HNC. Maybe he just loves munching that good rug though.
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Some of the HNC patients we treat end up looking like they have been burned, it is some nasty **** but it works. Chewing tobacco and a few forms of smoke inhalation are pretty big risk factors for HNC. Maybe he just loves munching that good rug though.
They aren't nearly as prevalent as hpv related scc these days in my patients. Aren't as responsive to xrt either. In any case, their stomatitis is almost always severe to the point of dysphagia to liquids. I recommend a peg tube before starting treatment to everyone.
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They aren't nearly as prevalent as hpv related scc these days in my patients. Aren't as responsive to xrt either. In any case, their stomatitis is almost always severe to the point of dysphagia to liquids. I recommend a peg tube before starting treatment to everyone.
You won't be at ESTRO I take it?
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You won't be at ESTRO I take it?
No, I'm a surgeon and have a difficult time keeping up with the requisite surgical conferences. i've got a friend in town who is an awesome rad onc... helps me out all of the time. Pretty amazing the things they can do with the targeted and modulated external beam treatments.
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