Importance of Middle Pressure - The Orange Mane

Dos Rios · 06-13-2012, 03:05 PM

Interesting article on the diminished importance of LT and edge rushing compared to pressure up the middle in the age of quick passing attacks.

Resonates with discussions of Clady's future, the continued problems of Hamilton/Weigman through Beadles/Walton, and the Bronco's interest in Wolfe despite great edge rushers and despite higher ranked run stuffing DTs.

Sorry, linking skills suck:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--le...-position.html

Houshyamama · 06-13-2012, 04:00 PM

Came here to post this, interesting read.

broncosteven · 06-13-2012, 06:43 PM

They were talking about this on the Score here in Chicago. I still would rather have a great LT than having to rely on the QB to dink and dunk.

LT's are still relevant in Offenses where they throw deeper routes, i.e. Mike Martz's tenure with duh bears.

I think it is the offensive philosphy that dictates the importance of the players.

Clady is a stud and should not be traded for anyone.

DENVERDUI55 · 06-13-2012, 06:54 PM

While a LT is important I think what is overlooked is any OL is only as good as the weakest link.

rugbythug · 06-13-2012, 07:28 PM

He gave Zimmerman an extra super bowl that was nice of him.

cutthemdown · 06-13-2012, 07:45 PM

Without outside pressure teams will go deep on you. The reason team going quick shorter passing is because outside pressure kills the QB. Harder to get big plays. If team afraid to go deep on us we already won a battle. Having players that can get pressure is just huge, be it inside or outside.

Jay3 · 06-13-2012, 07:46 PM

The "middle pressure" is the source of my most doom and gloom feelings about the Broncos this year. We're going to see how Walton and Beadles hold up when there's a quarterback back there that CANNOT be stopped any other way than to get to him, and who gets rid of the ball quick (hard to do when the rush is right in front of you, because you can't step up), and is also immobile.

They're going to bring the house straight up the middle against Peyton. And I have no confidence in Walton or Beadles, plus very little confidence in Franklin's quickness against a speed rush. Combined with the sense that Clady is more just "average" than awesome, it feels like Peyton is going to be beef jerkey back there.

I do have a man crush on Kuper, though. I've come to believe that, if healthy, he's one of the best in the NFL at his position.

cutthemdown · 06-13-2012, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay3

The "middle pressure" is the source of my most doom and gloom feelings about the Broncos this year. We're going to see how Walton and Beadles hold up when there's a quarterback back there that CANNOT be stopped any other way than to get to him, and who gets rid of the ball quick (hard to do when the rush is right in front of you, because you can't step up), and is also immobile.

They're going to bring the house straight up the middle against Peyton. And I have no confidence in Walton or Beadles, plus very little confidence in Franklin's quickness against a speed rush. Combined with the sense that Clady is more just "average" than awesome, it feels like Peyton is going to be beef jerkey back there.

I do have a man crush on Kuper, though. I've come to believe that, if healthy, he's one of the best in the NFL at his position.

Beadles won't be starting IMO.

Shananahan · 06-13-2012, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay3

The "middle pressure" is the source of my most doom and gloom feelings about the Broncos this year.

Bronco Rob · 06-13-2012, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay3
The "middle pressure" is the source of my most doom and gloom feelings about the Broncos this year.

In a perfect world

Harris stays healthy.

Kuper comes back at a 100%

Franklin slides to left guard

And Blake pushes Walton for playing time.

Jay3 · 06-14-2012, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Beadles won't be starting IMO.

Probably right.

Jay3 · 06-14-2012, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

In a perfect world

Harris stays healthy.

Kuper comes back at a 100%

Franklin slides to left guard

And Blake pushes Walton for playing time.

This is a best case scenario.

broncosteven · 06-14-2012, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

In a perfect world

Harris stays healthy.

Kuper comes back at a 100%

Franklin slides to left guard

And Blake pushes Walton for playing time.

This would be ideal

DENVERDUI55 · 06-14-2012, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

In a perfect world

Harris stays healthy.

I have a hard time with this.

Bronco Rob · 06-15-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

I have a hard time with this.

Notice, I prefaced that comment with 'in a perfect world'.

Jetmeck · 06-15-2012, 06:29 PM

have some small doubts bout the o-line holding up but I have the greatest confidence we have one of the best on field O coordinator that would be able to make adjustments.................

Bacchus · 06-15-2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

have some small doubts bout the o-line holding up but I have the greatest confidence we have one of the best on field O coordinator that would be able to make adjustments.................

I'm not nearly as worried about the Oline as some people. They are young and it will be the same line as last year. Continuity in an offensive line is important. With them getting last year's experience and then keeping the line intact I look for great improvements this year.

Last year Tebow was very reluctant to throw the ball, loved to scramble and defenses were stacking the line to stop the run. All that has changed. I think everyone is going to be impressed by this unit this year.

06-13-2012, 03:05 PM	#1
Dos Rios Solid Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 249	Importance of Middle Pressure Interesting article on the diminished importance of LT and edge rushing compared to pressure up the middle in the age of quick passing attacks. Resonates with discussions of Clady's future, the continued problems of Hamilton/Weigman through Beadles/Walton, and the Bronco's interest in Wolfe despite great edge rushers and despite higher ranked run stuffing DTs. Sorry, linking skills suck: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--le...-position.html

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06-13-2012, 04:00 PM	#2
Houshyamama I Make The Weather Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,853 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brock Osweiler	Came here to post this, interesting read.

06-13-2012, 06:43 PM	#3
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,008 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	They were talking about this on the Score here in Chicago. I still would rather have a great LT than having to rely on the QB to dink and dunk. LT's are still relevant in Offenses where they throw deeper routes, i.e. Mike Martz's tenure with duh bears. I think it is the offensive philosphy that dictates the importance of the players. Clady is a stud and should not be traded for anyone.

06-13-2012, 06:54 PM	#4
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,144 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	While a LT is important I think what is overlooked is any OL is only as good as the weakest link.

06-13-2012, 07:28 PM	#5
rugbythug Church Eyes. Salty Dog Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,785 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Miller	He gave Zimmerman an extra super bowl that was nice of him.

06-13-2012, 07:45 PM	#6
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,423	Without outside pressure teams will go deep on you. The reason team going quick shorter passing is because outside pressure kills the QB. Harder to get big plays. If team afraid to go deep on us we already won a battle. Having players that can get pressure is just huge, be it inside or outside.

06-13-2012, 07:46 PM	#7
Jay3 Sad Elway Ah . . . no. Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,367 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The "middle pressure" is the source of my most doom and gloom feelings about the Broncos this year. We're going to see how Walton and Beadles hold up when there's a quarterback back there that CANNOT be stopped any other way than to get to him, and who gets rid of the ball quick (hard to do when the rush is right in front of you, because you can't step up), and is also immobile. They're going to bring the house straight up the middle against Peyton. And I have no confidence in Walton or Beadles, plus very little confidence in Franklin's quickness against a speed rush. Combined with the sense that Clady is more just "average" than awesome, it feels like Peyton is going to be beef jerkey back there. I do have a man crush on Kuper, though. I've come to believe that, if healthy, he's one of the best in the NFL at his position.

06-15-2012, 06:29 PM	#16
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,377	have some small doubts bout the o-line holding up but I have the greatest confidence we have one of the best on field O coordinator that would be able to make adjustments.................