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Old 08-15-2014, 07:53 AM   #326
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Indeed, way too many internet personal issues going on to derail it.
I am so very tempted to say something but I cannot because I would at the least get warned very sternly and at the most a lengthy ban.


Sad situation for his family but hopefully he can now have some semblance of peace.
Some of the posters that have obliged this thread with their opinions though....
don't be a p***Y... Just say it. Chicken?
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:33 AM   #327
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I took a decent hiatus from the board for a while over the winter months and early spring after my cousin decided to end his life with a shotgun in the back of his home -- a winter landscape on a golf course in a ritzy neighborhood in Sioux Falls. He had problems with alcohol abuse and I know he struggled with it for quite some time. To this day, I am not sure why he did it -- he had a lot going for him, was a great athlete and seemed to always be smiling. He must have had demons within that none of us knew about. When the news about RW hit the news, I immediately thought about Jake. Many in my family to this day are still asking why. It certainly does impact those left behind. It is just really sad.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:54 AM   #328
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Lol. "A commitment to your sobriety." Like it's a ****ing switch you can turn on and off.

I'd say voluntarily checking yourself into rehab because you're tempted is the ****ing definition of a "commitment to your sobriety."

You're a dick.
Maybe you should check into one. Problem=temptation. I'm saying the same ****ing thing as you. Evidently I'm not the only one to ever use the phrase commitment to sobriety.
Which his OWN representative says.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gic-death.html



Also. Youre a p***Y. At least I'm big and hard. You floppy and smell like fish.

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Old 08-15-2014, 11:55 AM   #329
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Strange that RW starred in a movie called What Dreams My Come. That line comes from Hamlet's soliloquy that begins, "To be, or not to be..." when Hamlet is considering suicide...

But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn
No Traveler returns, Puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
Than fly to others that we know not of.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:41 PM   #330
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Strange that RW starred in a movie called What Dreams My Come. That line comes from Hamlet's soliloquy that begins, "To be, or not to be..." when Hamlet is considering suicide...

But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered Country, from whose bourn
No Traveler returns, Puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have,
Than fly to others that we know not of.
First movie I thought of and exact situation once he announced this. That movie was messed up.
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:08 PM   #331
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Okay I get it you think suicide is okay and doesn't effect your kids(if they are grown). How many other people committed suicide that day or overdosed on drugs? Why aren't we mourning them? Just because he is a celebrity doesn't make suicide an okay. Drug addiction is a choice and I'll bet years of it definitely effected his mental health recently whether he was sober or not.
This is silly...We all mourn anyone who has had a profound affect on our lives when they are gone. Especially when it is sudden and tragic. Williams affected more lives than the others with similar afflictions, so more people are affected by his passing. I am sad because he was a great influence on me as I grew. The others that committed suicide that day simply did not. I am sad because the world was a better place with him in it...I am sad because I will miss him. I am sad for selfish reasons, because I did not know what he is going though...no one here does. I would ask him to continue his pain for my own benefit.....that is selfishness.

Addiction is a choice? You say some very odd things. The very definition of addiction is not being able to control ones action or behavior.
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:28 PM   #332
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First movie I thought of and exact situation once he announced this. That movie was messed up.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:35 PM   #333
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Also. Youre a p***Y. At least I'm big and hard. You floppy and smell like fish.
Pretty sure no one asked.

And I'm pretty sure we've never met.

So, like usual, I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 08-15-2014, 02:51 PM   #334
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Pretty sure no one asked.

And I'm pretty sure we've never met.

So, like usual, I'm pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about.
You got me bro. I'm devastated.
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:18 PM   #335
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Addiction is a choice? You say some very odd things. The very definition of addiction is not being able to control ones action or behavior.
Yes becoming an addict is a choice that a person made to put substances in their body that they are now addicted to. Those needles didn't accidentally get in his arm. Vodka wasn't accidentally in a water bottle.
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Old 08-15-2014, 03:29 PM   #336
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Yes becoming an addict is a choice that a person made to put substances in their body that they are now addicted to. Those needles didn't accidentally get in his arm. Vodka wasn't accidentally in a water bottle.
not entirely true. Alcoholism and drug addiction are often hereditary.
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Old 08-15-2014, 06:48 PM   #337
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That was a great move.

RIP RW
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:57 PM   #338
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This thread is full of douche; from all angles.
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Old 08-15-2014, 11:13 PM   #339
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Yes becoming an addict is a choice that a person made to put substances in their body that they are now addicted to. Those needles didn't accidentally get in his arm. Vodka wasn't accidentally in a water bottle.
The choice vs. disease debate could be a 10 page thread in its own right. I'll just say this: sometimes addiction is a symptom and not the cause of bigger problems. Not always, but often it is. It certainly doesn't help things but the urge for relief can be overwhelming.

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Old 08-19-2014, 02:19 PM   #340
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Yes becoming an addict is a choice that a person made to put substances in their body that they are now addicted to. Those needles didn't accidentally get in his arm. Vodka wasn't accidentally in a water bottle.
add that the addict might not want to get help. They like the feeling and don't want to leave it. You can excuse an addict as having a disease but they started from scratch and not only decided to do it recreationally but as a major problem in their life.
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Please get help. As well as tell someone. Know the feeling as being hospitalized. Suicide does not end things but it increases pain to people that you leave behind. Know the red flags.

Here is hoping that depression and suicide will help open the door to others as these have been ignored for far too long. As just had a cousin five years ago on Monday, who took her own life by getting fatally hit by a train.

It is about getting the right kind of help. And sticking with it. It does take time. But it is the right kind of help you need.

Call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1-800-273-TALK 24/7!
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The more I read, and hear about Robin Williams, the more I think that it was not depression or mental illness or all the other things our infotainment/psychobabble culture wants to splatter him with. It was a cold, calculated decision based on, one, he didn't want to go out that way (Parkinson's), and two, he didn't want to be a burden on others. I think two was probably the strongest drive. He was a guy who spent his entire life looking out for the well-being of others. No doubt there was great sadness, but I think we all have the right to choose how we want to go out, if given the choice. I know if I was given a diagnosis of Parkinson's or Alzheimer's, I would not stick around to watch my brain dissolve and turn me into a drooling blob.
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