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Old 12-14-2015, 08:05 PM   #626
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He has a couple games like this a year. It is nothing new.
True, but usually he has some dominating games surrounding that and you can kind of gloss over the bad ones.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:30 PM   #627
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with Brock, we still don't seem to be throwing over the middle unless it's to a TE.

not sure i understand that.

His passes always seem to be either tipped or knocked down.
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Old 12-14-2015, 09:31 PM   #628
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His passes always seem to be either tipped or knocked down.
always?
I agree he has a lot of tipped passes, but a few of those came with the rush in his lap. Denver has had some big plays over the middle as well. Just a week ago DT had a big gain on a drag brought back on a phantom opi

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Old 12-14-2015, 10:11 PM   #629
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I wanted Brandon Marshall when everyone wanted him off the team. Thanks to an idiot who refused to call him by name, "the player" wanted out. Marshall would've been fantastic as a lifelong Bronco. Now he and Decker are ballin.

Gotta live with the drops from DT, who according to Broncos fans is the worst Bronco WR in history. A horrible WR that will own every Broncos WR record one day.
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Old 12-15-2015, 06:25 AM   #630
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Post anything DT related in this thread as I Have over the last 3+ years a compendium if you will of all things Demaurius.

You don't like it? I don't care.

Deal?




I think you like to start threads and try and make them as long as possible for some reason.
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Old 12-15-2015, 06:45 AM   #631
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I wanted Brandon Marshall when everyone wanted him off the team. Thanks to an idiot who refused to call him by name, "the player" wanted out. Marshall would've been fantastic as a lifelong Bronco. Now he and Decker are ballin.

Gotta live with the drops from DT, who according to Broncos fans is the worst Bronco WR in history. A horrible WR that will own every Broncos WR record one day.
Marshall is on his 4th team. The report on him is that he will play nice and ball out for a season or 2 , then become a malcontent. His time with us was done.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:19 AM   #632
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I wanted Brandon Marshall when everyone wanted him off the team. Thanks to an idiot who refused to call him by name, "the player" wanted out. Marshall would've been fantastic as a lifelong Bronco. Now he and Decker are ballin.

Gotta live with the drops from DT, who according to Broncos fans is the worst Bronco WR in history. A horrible WR that will own every Broncos WR record one day.
Marshall is locker cancer. Can you believe he has never played in the playoffs?
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:36 AM   #633
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Marshall is locker cancer. Can you believe he has never played in the playoffs?
Either did Floyd little and he's in the hall of fame.
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Either did Floyd little and he's in the hall of fame.
Did Floyd get traded 3 times and play for 4 different teams?
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always?
I agree he has a lot of tipped passes, but a few of those came with the rush in his lap. Denver has had some big plays over the middle as well. Just a week ago DT had a big gain on a drag brought back on a phantom opi


Maybe just a wee bit of hyperbole but it does seem to happen more often than not.
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Old 12-17-2015, 01:54 PM   #636
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Broncos' Demaryius Thomas: Given rest day Thursday

Demaryius Thomas was given a rest day at Thursday's practice, Troy Renck of the Denver Post reports.Renck previously noted that Thomas may have banged up his shoulder in Week 14, but based on his follow-up report, it appears as though the wideout's Thursday absence may simply be maintenance-related


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Old 12-17-2015, 02:19 PM   #637
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Trade Demaryius.

The guy drops critical throws in every game.

He's not a #1 receiver.
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Trade Demaryius.

The guy drops critical throws in every game.

He's not a #1 receiver.
*yawn* Terrible idea.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:34 PM   #639
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Broncos' Demaryius Thomas: Given rest day Thursday

Demaryius Thomas was given a rest day at Thursday's practice, Troy Renck of the Denver Post reports.Renck previously noted that Thomas may have banged up his shoulder in Week 14, but based on his follow-up report, it appears as though the wideout's Thursday absence may simply be maintenance-related


He had a Direct TV installation scheduled. You know how that can be an all day event.
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Old 12-17-2015, 03:41 PM   #640
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Trade Demaryius.

The guy drops critical throws in every game.

He's not a #1 receiver.
I doubt any team would pick up that contract, he's stuck here till the guaranteed money is at least worth the investment or as close as it could be.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:08 PM   #641
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Don't know if it has been said in this thread, but DT's mother just got out of prison a few weeks ago. I think 3 weeks.

This seems to fit with his timeline of sudden struggles. He seems distracted and I personally think this is why.
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Old 12-17-2015, 04:15 PM   #642
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You'd think a coach would want to work with a WR who had drops the game before.



Go ahead and take a day off.

No wonder Kubiak looks lost.
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Old 12-17-2015, 07:20 PM   #643
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Not that it excuses DT's poor play, but I wonder how much of a factor this is in explaining the funk he seems to be in:

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Osweiler's struggles with pocket awareness and sacks extend beyond Sunday's second half, too. With mostly the same surrounding players, Peyton Manning was sacked 15 times in 340 dropbacks, a rate of 4.4 percent that's roughly half Osweiler's (17 sacks in 190 dropbacks, 8.9 percent). Just as interceptions were Manning's primary weakness in 2015, sacks are one of the two main reasons Osweiler's DVOA (-4.8%) is below zero.

The other main reason is Osweiler's inability to throw downfield. As much as Manning has been maligned for his noodle-arm woes, it's actually Osweiler who has struggled the most on passes traveling 15 yards or further in the air. Amongst quarterbacks with at least 15 attempts, Osweiler has the worst DVOA in the league on deep passes.

Osweiler is close to the ultimate dinker-and-dunker. Among quarterbacks with at least 150 attempts, only Matt Ryan has thrown a lower share of his passes deep than Osweiler. While some of that is play-calling choices, those choices also reflect Osweiler's shortcomings. Even with Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders at receiver, the Broncos rarely succeed on the rare occasions they do throw downfield.

It's the combination of Osweiler's tendencies to take sacks and to throw short that is so concerning. A few successful quarterbacks such as Aaron Rodgers and Ben Roethlisberger have taken lots of sacks, but they were also getting the upside of big plays downfield. At the same time, other guys like Tom Brady and Matt Ryan throw short more often than average, but they also take few sacks. For this season at least, Osweiler is little more than an interception-avoider who has trouble getting through progressions, a poor man's Alex Smith.

His inability to throw deep also influences the running game, as defensive backs can play closer to the line of scrimmage. In part because of the running game's struggles, the offense has been no more efficient under Osweiler (-15.0% DVOA) than it was under Manning (-13.5%). And that leaves the Broncos with a quarterback dilemma with two unpromising options. For 2015, it might be even less likely that Osweiler develops the necessary rapid-fire decision-making skills than that Manning rediscovers just enough of his physical skills to get through a few playoff weeks.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/any...s-over-broncos
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Not that it excuses DT's poor play, but I wonder how much of a factor this is in explaining the funk he seems to be in:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/any...s-over-broncos

ACK! So Brock is the new captain checkdown?





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ACK! So Brock is the new captain checkdown?





Yeah now that Orton retired.
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But we were told by the orange mane football experts that Brock was the solution to the offensive woes. Were we lied to??
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FIRE DT NOW HE DROPPED A PASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You don't just trade away X WRs.

Kubiak's offense depends on the X wide receiver split out wide and DT's the only guy that can really do that.
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I like DT, and despite his recent struggles I hope he stick in Denver and I think he will. But just for fun, if the Broncos could trade DT and a #3 to Philadelphia for DeMarco Murray and a #1, do you make that trade? I came up with this probably stupid idea because the Eagles need a #1 WR and really don't need Murray, the Broncos need an elite 1 cut RB and could probably survive without DT, they are similar ages, and they both have big contracts that end after 2019. Denver would need to receive more value back (thus flipping a 3 for a 1) because WR's have longer lives than RB's. I'm not exactly sure of the cap ramifications but conceivably the Broncos could cut Murray after the 2016 but they'd have some dead cap to deal with. Probably a stupid idea, and almost certainly not going to happen, but just curious to see what people would think.
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DT. Worst WR in Broncos history to hold(in future) every Broncos WR record.
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