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barryr · 04-04-2014, 10:41 PM

I'm ok with Fox. I don't consider him great, but they could do worse. What is important is having a good coaching staff around and they pretty much do.

baja · 04-04-2014, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by barryr

I'm ok with Fox. I don't consider him great, but they could do worse. What is important is having a good coaching staff around and they pretty much do.

Exactly!

Action · 04-05-2014, 12:01 AM

Of those that dont like this, I wonder how many people think they would actually hold up in a conversation with john elway about this.

Agamemnon · 04-05-2014, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

Marty has never coached in a SB and has the most wins of any coach not to.
Fox has been to two SB's with two completely different teams.
We all want to win at least 1 SB with Peyton but let's not go crazy here. Fox is a damn good coach and while he may not be a rah rah guy he has helped this team come up from 4-12 to 3 time AFC West champs and a SB berth with a injury riddled team.

Do you honestly think Schottenheimer couldn't have made it to a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning as his QB?

R8R H8R · 04-05-2014, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Do you honestly think Schottenheimer couldn't have made it to a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning as his QB?

He couldn't with Montana, and he was about the same age as Peyton is now.

Powderaddict · 04-05-2014, 07:00 AM

Player development and half time adjustments typically have been good with Fox.

Overall, this is kind of "meh" for me.

Gutless Drunk · 04-05-2014, 07:07 AM

John Fox's initial 4-year deal paid him about $3.5 mil per. Ripped up with 1 yr left. This 3-year deal will pay him about $5.5 mil per.
— Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) April 5, 2014

Dr. Broncenstein · 04-05-2014, 07:09 AM

It's not losing the Super Bowl with an injured team that is the problem with Fox. It's that the team was obviously unprepared for the Super Bowl, particularly regarding the crowd noise. That, and the fact that the head coach is a moral victory loser type. Not too shabby.

NFLBRONCO · 04-05-2014, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein

It's not losing the Super Bowl with an injured team that is the problem with Fox. It's that the team was obviously unprepared for the Super Bowl, particularly regarding the crowd noise. That, and the fact that the head coach is a moral victory loser type. Not too shabby.

Agree 100% with this

At the same time I knew no change would happen in Manning era anyways so why even think about it. Whether you love or don't love Fox.

Rabb · 04-05-2014, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by gunns

Yeah if I were SD, Oak, KC, I'd be in 7th heaven.

The rest of your post, ok...but this is just silly to say.

So, they are happy because they can continue to not win the division?

baja · 04-05-2014, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein

It's not losing the Super Bowl with an injured team that is the problem with Fox. It's that the team was obviously unprepared for the Super Bowl, particularly regarding the crowd noise. That, and the fact that the head coach is a moral victory loser type. Not too shabby.

Maybe we could hire Shanahan just to coach on Sunday?

Brohemoth · 04-05-2014, 07:38 AM

I wish we had the other Super Bowl coach.

Tombstone RJ · 04-05-2014, 07:45 AM

I'm not real happy about this as that SB loss left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm less enthusiastic about this team than I have been in a long time. I'd like to see the details of this new contract and see if Elway has an out clause after one season, perhaps a buy-out clause. If I was Elway I'd have given him a 2 year contract which is basically a one year contract and if the team craps the bed again in the playoffs, I'd fire him.

LikeABoss5820 · 04-05-2014, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Brohemoth

I wish we had the other Super Bowl coach.

I wish we had a healthy team in the SB, something Sea had.

Br0nc0Buster · 04-05-2014, 08:17 AM

Its whatever

I was fine with letting Fox go after this year if it meant we kept Gase

But at the same time I get not blowing things up yet with Manning sill under center

Maybe we can get lucky with injuries and if we make it back to the bowl get someone like NO instead of Seattle

Broncomutt · 04-05-2014, 08:37 AM

Over/Under on successful challenges this year is 1.

yerner · 04-05-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Broncomutt

Over/Under on successful challenges this year is 1.

to be fair, i'm not sure he understands the rule.

Drunken.Broncoholic2 · 04-05-2014, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

Marty has never coached in a SB and has the most wins of any coach not to.
Fox has been to two SB's with two completely different teams.
We all want to win at least 1 SB with Peyton but let's not go crazy here. Fox is a damn good coach and while he may not be a rah rah guy he has helped this team come up from 4-12 to 3 time AFC West champs and a SB berth with a injury riddled team.

Marty also called a boneheaded 4th down play that contributed in preventing him from going. Total head scratcher at the time.

baja · 04-05-2014, 08:49 AM

If Elway sees Gase as the up and coming HC and best option to take over after Fox I would assume a way to make that transition has been provided for. If Elway wants Gase no way Foxs new contract closes that door.

Elway to Gase, " Be patient Adam as soon as Peyton retires the HC job is yours"

titan · 04-05-2014, 08:52 AM

Kind of reminds me of the 49'ers when they had Shanahan as Offensive Coordinator with George Siefert as coach. The 49'ers wanted to keep Shanahan but didn't want to let a successful head coach go (Siefert). The 49'ers lost Shanahan just as the Broncos will probably lose Gase.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun · 04-05-2014, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

Maybe we could hire Shanahan just to coach on Sunday?

That was the one thing I missed about the Shanahan TC. Situational football was the majority of practise. Fox TC practice is mostly drills.

Agamemnon · 04-05-2014, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by R8R H8R

He couldn't with Montana, and he was about the same age as Peyton is now.

Montana was considerably diminished at that point, so the comparison doesn't hold up.

razorwire77 · 04-05-2014, 09:46 AM

Fox probably won't coach a down after Peyton retires. I'd look for a want to spend more time with the family "retirement" as soon as the team needs to be rebuilt in 2016 or 2017.

Mile High Salute · 04-05-2014, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gutless Drunk

John Fox's initial 4-year deal paid him about $3.5 mil per. Ripped up with 1 yr left. This 3-year deal will pay him about $5.5 mil per.
— Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) April 5, 2014

Wow, Bowlen is really throwing around the money this off-season. How can I get in on this?

Mile High Salute · 04-05-2014, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Do you honestly think Schottenheimer couldn't have made it to a Super Bowl with Peyton Manning as his QB?

Schottenheimer couldn't get it done even though he had the "best QB in the AFC West."

04-05-2014, 07:07 AM	#57
Gutless Drunk Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10,220 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	John Fox's initial 4-year deal paid him about $3.5 mil per. Ripped up with 1 yr left. This 3-year deal will pay him about $5.5 mil per. — Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) April 5, 2014

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baja Headmaster "Win from now on" - Elway Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in the present moment Posts: 69,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Leo-TailGateNut	If Elway sees Gase as the up and coming HC and best option to take over after Fox I would assume a way to make that transition has been provided for. If Elway wants Gase no way Foxs new contract closes that door. Elway to Gase, " Be patient Adam as soon as Peyton retires the HC job is yours" Last edited by baja; 04-05-2014 at 08:52 AM..

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04-04-2014, 10:41 PM	#51
barryr Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 14,957 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I'm ok with Fox. I don't consider him great, but they could do worse. What is important is having a good coaching staff around and they pretty much do.

04-05-2014, 12:01 AM	#53
Action ************************* Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Broncos Posts: 9,962 Adopt-a-Bronco: 2015DraftClass	Of those that dont like this, I wonder how many people think they would actually hold up in a conversation with john elway about this.

04-05-2014, 07:00 AM	#56
Powderaddict Saw Lady Gaga Treasonous Fan Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Granada Nicaragua Posts: 5,163 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Player development and half time adjustments typically have been good with Fox. Overall, this is kind of "meh" for me.

04-05-2014, 07:09 AM	#58
Dr. Broncenstein Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 16,607 Adopt-a-Bronco: Trey Gowdy	It's not losing the Super Bowl with an injured team that is the problem with Fox. It's that the team was obviously unprepared for the Super Bowl, particularly regarding the crowd noise. That, and the fact that the head coach is a moral victory loser type. Not too shabby.

04-05-2014, 07:38 AM	#62
Brohemoth Ring of Famer Question everything Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 6,591 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I wish we had the other Super Bowl coach.

04-05-2014, 07:45 AM	#63
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 27,144 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	I'm not real happy about this as that SB loss left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm less enthusiastic about this team than I have been in a long time. I'd like to see the details of this new contract and see if Elway has an out clause after one season, perhaps a buy-out clause. If I was Elway I'd have given him a 2 year contract which is basically a one year contract and if the team craps the bed again in the playoffs, I'd fire him.

04-05-2014, 08:17 AM	#65
Br0nc0Buster You honeydicking? Super Bowl 50 Champs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 7,423	Its whatever I was fine with letting Fox go after this year if it meant we kept Gase But at the same time I get not blowing things up yet with Manning sill under center Maybe we can get lucky with injuries and if we make it back to the bowl get someone like NO instead of Seattle

04-05-2014, 08:37 AM	#66
Broncomutt Watch me dab... the tears....from...my eyes... Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,480	Over/Under on successful challenges this year is 1.

04-05-2014, 08:52 AM	#70
titan Ring of Famer Fan of Old School Football Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,495 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Kind of reminds me of the 49'ers when they had Shanahan as Offensive Coordinator with George Siefert as coach. The 49'ers wanted to keep Shanahan but didn't want to let a successful head coach go (Siefert). The 49'ers lost Shanahan just as the Broncos will probably lose Gase.

04-05-2014, 09:46 AM	#73
razorwire77 Great week of practice!!! Leader of Men Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,466 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bradley Roby	Fox probably won't coach a down after Peyton retires. I'd look for a want to spend more time with the family "retirement" as soon as the team needs to be rebuilt in 2016 or 2017.