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Old 10-13-2018, 09:20 PM   #101
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Herbert's pretty good but he's probably going #1 overall, Broncos may be bad, but idk if they'll be #1 overall bad or close to it.

I guess good thing is of the bad teams, only NYG need a long-term QB.

But Denver needs to play Kelly to see if they have ANYTHING in him. If they go 1-3/0-4 the next 4 games, then Kelly needs to play the rest of the games and see what he can do.
Just FYI, but Herbert has alluded to NOT coming out this year.
He said he really, really wants to play with his brother, who is a highly recruited TE that is going to ORE next year. And yes, he's a tall dude too.
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:43 PM   #102
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things look to be headed south for the broncos but lets hope not. If they do go south will have to see Kelly play to know whether or not to draft a QB high.

Grier looks interesting for a pick in the 5-12 range.



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Old 10-14-2018, 03:46 AM   #103
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Each day i looking here for any good news like, swag starts, to have some hope...
Maybe it is clever not to start swag against the rams, but still i blieve with swag we would be 4-1 now....


Lets hope he gets his shoot after halftime blowout so we can look in an, hopefully, better future...


AND yes Swag is not the answer to all our problem, but he could be the spark to get something done...
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Old 10-14-2018, 04:17 AM   #104
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This is not the draft to draft a QB. Very poor group of quarterbacks coming out after this year.
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Old 10-14-2018, 04:21 AM   #105
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This is not the draft to draft a QB. Very poor group of quarterbacks coming out after this year.
Unless there is clear cut #1 (like Luck), people say that every year. But their will be good QB or two that comes out of this draft just like Goeff or Wentrz, Smith or Rodgers.
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Unless there is clear cut #1 (like Luck), people say that every year. But their will be good QB or two that comes out of this draft just like Goeff or Wentrz, Smith or Rodgers.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...e-eli-manning/

This mock doesnít have a QB going til pick 9. This coming draft isnít strong on QBS.
We do get Herbert at 12.,there just isnít going to be a top 5 quality QB in the draft.

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This mock doesnít have a QB going til pick 9. This coming draft isnít strong on QBS.
Mocks this time of year are just for fun. Scouts are still out in the field, front offices are just kinda getting into shifting into gear looking at limited tape. When Maylock and the rest of the NFL crew show up on TV, that when you start to get an understanding of the draft.

I remember early mocks having Alex Smith going in the late teens and went #1. So unless there is clear cut #1 like Luck, mocks are incorrect this team of year.
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So Elway is in Oregon today watching Herbert, I wonder what that means for Swag.
elway will probably draft another bust and trade swag to the vikings
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Mocks this time of year are just for fun. Scouts are still out in the field, front offices are just kinda getting into shifting into gear looking at limited tape. When Maylock and the rest of the NFL crew show up on TV, that when you start to get an understanding of the draft.

I remember early mocks having Alex Smith going in the late teens and went #1. So unless there is clear cut #1 like Luck, mocks are incorrect this team of year.
I see your point, but there isnít a top 5 quality QB in the 2019 draft. Itís going to be a defense heavy draft.
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If Herbert doesnt come out, this isnt the greatest QB draft. Hoping Swag looks legit and it's all for moot when he does get his chance.

Best QB's are Herbert who may not come out, Drew Lock, Ryan Finley, Dwyane Haskins.

Haskins has legit potential, Herbert may not come out as socal said. It's not an overly inspiring QB group.

It's loaded on defense, specifically at DL and CB where we need help at. Depends where we're picking at though.
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If Herbert doesnt come out, this isnt the greatest QB draft. Hoping Swag looks legit and it's all for moot when he does get his chance.

Best QB's are Herbert who may not come out, Drew Lock, Ryan Finley, Dwyane Haskins.

Haskins has legit potential, Herbert may not come out as socal said. It's not an overly inspiring QB group.

It's loaded on defense, specifically at DL and CB where we need help at. Depends where we're picking at though.
even with Herbert it wonít be a great QB draft. There will be 2 or 3 1st QBs but nothing like the 2018 draft.
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even with Herbert it wonít be a great QB draft. There will be 2 or 3 1st QBs but nothing like the 2018 draft.
Yep, should have taken Rosen when they had the chance.
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Has someone a link of the best play of the last game ( Swag coming in) ? I dont find a good one...
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:24 AM   #114
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If Herbert doesnt come out, this isnt the greatest QB draft. Hoping Swag looks legit and it's all for moot when he does get his chance.

Best QB's are Herbert who may not come out, Drew Lock, Ryan Finley, Dwyane Haskins.

Haskins has legit potential, Herbert may not come out as socal said. It's not an overly inspiring QB group.

It's loaded on defense, specifically at DL and CB where we need help at. Depends where we're picking at though.
Don't forget Montez, who may play his way into the first round.
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There was a guy near me Sunday that other than being clearly super drunk, was SCREAMING at other fans around him that we weren't being loud enough on 3rd downs. His reason was, the louder we are on 3rd down (when LA had the ball), the better the chances Kelly ends up coming in. He also was chanting Kelly for most of the game.

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Play the QB who has far superior talent. Kelly is a playmaker.

Keenum is on pace for 17 TDs and 21 INTs.

CK would put up better numbers than that, period.
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He looked terrible last week
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Play the QB who has far superior talent. Kelly is a playmaker.

Keenum is on pace for 17 TDs and 21 INTs.

CK would put up better numbers than that, period.
Once you give up on a season, you've got to look at contracts.

Case has a pronounced ceiling and one year left on his deal. We can save 10+ million cutting that year.

Kelly's essentially free over the next two seasons and is mostly a question mark.

Once you realize you're not competing for titles, there's only one of those avenues you should be aggressively investigating.
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If Herbert doesnt come out, this isnt the greatest QB draft. Hoping Swag looks legit and it's all for moot when he does get his chance.

Best QB's are Herbert who may not come out, Drew Lock, Ryan Finley, Dwyane Haskins.

Haskins has legit potential, Herbert may not come out as socal said. It's not an overly inspiring QB group.

It's loaded on defense, specifically at DL and CB where we need help at. Depends where we're picking at though.
Kelly is legit. He needs help tho from playcalling/scheme like all young QBs.

I wonder whether the fan base is patient enough for him to develop since he's the type that's going to make a lot of mistakes. It's about the one positive about VJ - he's patient with starters like Siemian and now Keenum. So hopefully when Kelly gets the start they'll stick with him for the rest of the season.
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Kelly is legit. He needs help tho from playcalling/scheme like all young QBs.

I wonder whether the fan base is patient enough for him to develop since he's the type that's going to make a lot of mistakes. It's about the one positive about VJ - he's patient with starters like Siemian and now Keenum. So hopefully when Kelly gets the start they'll stick with him for the rest of the season.
I think you'll see a lot more patience for a kid than for an $18m hired gun.
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You know what’s annoying about this whole thing, is Elway literally has been doing this bull**** with obviously backup level qbs for 4 seasons now and watched it go into the rocks every year and is still scared to get Kelly in to actually try to figure out what they have. He has watched this same thing for multiple years now. For ****s sake, if he would have just mandated Lynch being the guy from day one we would be on our way out of this mess.

But again, lets just pretend Case is good enough.
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Who is Chad Kelly?

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Kelly's starpower grew so large in Oxford that he was dubbed "Swag Kelly" and was possibly responsible for the city getting its first Chipotle restaurant just by tweeting about wanting one in the area, a plea that was granted two years later.
This alone is reason to start him.
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You know whatís annoying about this whole thing, is Elway literally has been doing this bull**** with obviously backup level qbs for 4 seasons now and watched it go into the rocks every year and is still scared to get Kelly in to actually try to figure out what they have. He has watched this same thing for multiple years now. For ****s sake, if he would have just mandated Lynch being the guy from day one we would be on our way out of this mess.

But again, lets just pretend Case is good enough.
Dont agree on Lynch, he just cant play QB at an NFL level.

Agree they need to give Kelly a shot and let him learn from his mistakes.
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Kelly is legit. He needs help tho from playcalling/scheme like all young QBs.

I wonder whether the fan base is patient enough for him to develop since he's the type that's going to make a lot of mistakes. It's about the one positive about VJ - he's patient with starters like Siemian and now Keenum. So hopefully when Kelly gets the start they'll stick with him for the rest of the season.
I like Swag, i just wonder when he gets his chance or will it be too late?

After the bye week would seem like the ideal time to play him pending how these next 3 go.
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