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Old 05-17-2018, 07:02 PM   #1
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:19 PM   #2
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I don't think it even matters anymore.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:33 PM   #3
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I don't think it has ever mattered or will matter.

I think people put too much stock into who's president. Life is too short to base ones life or destiny on someone else or their actions.

I believe an individuals potential is limitless.
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Well, I want to see him and members of his family go to prison. So, it matters.
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:18 PM   #5
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What more do you need to know about Trump?

Trump did it and he’s going down for a host of crimes, and some of them have nothing to do with Russia



I’ve been “covering” the Trump story for over a year now, and I’m sick and tired of stacking up the details of his treachery day after day, week after week. What more do you need to know? He’s a lying, thieving, incompetent, ignorant traitor who conspired with the Russian government to steal the election of 2016 and illegally defeat a candidate who won the popular vote by nearly 3 million ballots. His presidency is illegitimate, and his occupation of the White House is a stain on our nation’s honor and a threat to our democracy. History will cast him into the same sewer in which float the putrid remains of Benedict Arnold, Jefferson Davis and Richard Nixon. Impeachment would be too kind an end for him. He belongs behind bars, broken, bankrupt and disgraced.

Every day the front pages of the newspapers and the headlines of the cable news shows are filled with evidence of Trump’s lies and thievery. Look at what happened this week alone.

Trump started out denying that he even knew Stormy Daniels, then he denied having a sexual relationship with her, then he said he didn’t know about any payoffs to her. Monday, he filed his required federal financial disclosure form in which he effectively admitted making the $130,000 payment to shut her up just before the election in 2016.

He did an about-face on trade restrictions on China, announcing that he would seek to help the Chinese communications giant ZTE, which paid a $1.2 billion fine last year for violating sanctions against trade with North Korea and Iran. Three days previously, China had issued a half-billion dollar loan to a development project in Singapore that includes Trump-branded hotels, golf courses and condos.

He opened the American embassy in Jerusalem, a move he had been warned would result in fighting and deaths in the Middle East -- and sure enough, dozens of Palestinians were killed on the day the embassy opened during demonstrations in the Gaza Strip.

The Trump White House refused to apologize for a sick joke made about John McCain by one of his aides.

Trump’s former secretary of state gave a commencement speech at VMI in which he made repeated veiled criticisms of Trump’s lying and warned gravely “If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom.”

Special Counsel Robert Mueller issued a subpoena to a former aide of Trump’s long-time consultant Roger Stone, who has admitted being in touch during the campaign of 2016 with a Russian intelligence agent involved in the hacking of the Democratic Party emails.

A major story in Buzzfeed on Thursday detailed work by Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen on a 100-story Trump skyscraper in Moscow during 2015 right through the Republican National Convention in 2016. It was revealed that Trump signed a “Letter of Intent” on the Moscow project on the day of the third Republican primary debate on Oct. 28, 2015, in Boulder, Colorado. ABC News reported last week that Trump has denied having deals in Russia “hundreds of times in the past 18 months.” Just before the inauguration in 2017, for example, Trump tweeted:
Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 11, 2017

A Qatar deal was announced. The revelation follows a report that during the transition in 2016, a Qatari diplomat was asked by Trump lawyer Michael Cohen for a $1 million “fee” in return for arranging connections to the Trump family. The government of Qatar bought a $6.5 million apartment in Trump World Tower on the east side of Manhattan recently.

The news of last week was a perfect mix of lies, thievery, buffoonery and malice that have characterized the entirety of Trump’s presidency.

He promised to get rid of Obamacare “on day one.” He failed. Obamacare is alive and well and enjoyed record registrations last year.

His executive orders on everything from immigration to environmental regulations have ignored requirements for public comments and simple federal paperwork and face lawsuits from one end of the country to the other.

He claimed that “nobody has been tougher on Russia than I have.” He has refused to enact most of the sanctions on Russia passed by Congress.

He appointed a hatchet man who had sued the EPA over a dozen times to head up the agency and that man, Scott Pruitt, currently faces no less than 14 investigations of his tenure there, including allegations that he broke federal laws on office renovations and accepting gifts from lobbyists when he rented a room at below-market rates from a lobbyist with business before his agency.

Last week he claimed he raised military pay for “the first time in 10 years.”

President Obama raised military pay in every year of his presidency.

Trump has claimed repeatedly that his White House “is running like a fine-tuned machine.” He filled it with wife beaters, worn-out Wall Street bucket shop shysters and half-baked neo-Nazi flacks. At this point, more than 40 top White House officials and aides have either resigned or been fired over the last 18 months. The place leaks like a shredded fish net.

The Washington Post recently reported that the lies he has told in office now number more than 3,000.

But it’s his lies about Russia that really ring a bell. Trump and his White House surrogates began by claiming that the Trump campaign never met with any Russians and had nothing to do with Russia. Revelation after revelation about contacts between Trump people and Russians followed. Then they claimed they had met with only a few Russians. More revelations about more Russians. Then they claimed they had not met with any Russians “about the campaign.” The Trump Tower meeting was revealed. Meets between George Papadopoulos and Russians in London came to light. Trump suddenly started claiming that there was “no collusion.” Evidence of collusion emerged. Then Trump began claiming that even if there was collusion, it was not illegal. Indictments came down. Now Rudy Giuliani is out there telling the world that even if Trump did something wrong, he can’t be indicted as a sitting president.

Wow. Watching Trump revisions on the Russia story is like watching a Slinky descend a staircase, flipping over and over and over and over.

But every set of stairs has a bottom and in Trump’s case, it’s the law. His lies and dissembling about Stormy Daniels came up against the law this week when he had to file his financial disclosure form. Lying or omitting information on a federal form is a felony, which is why Trump was forced to include the repayment of his debt to Michael Cohen which covered the $130,000 that had been paid out to silence Stormy Daniels in October of 2016. He lied about her and he lied about that payment until he came up against the law and then he was forced to tell the truth.

He has reached the ground floor with Russia and everything else. You can lie at rallies, you can lie to the media, you can lie to voters, but lies don’t work when they come up against laws. That’s where Trump finds himself today. He’s a lying, thieving traitor who conspired with a hostile nation to steal the presidential election of 2016 and he got caught. Not even his bone spurs will get him a deferment this time. He’s going to be drafted for the farm team at Leavenworth. He’s going down.

https://www.salon.com/2018/05/19/wha...w-about-trump/
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He is the gift that keeps on giving... better than Pence.....

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I think people put too much stock into who's president. Life is too short to base ones life or destiny on someone else or their actions.
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Well, I want to see him and members of his family go to prison. So, it matters.
Do you want the Clintons to go to Prison? How about the Bushes? How about Obama?
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Old 05-19-2018, 07:43 PM   #10
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Nah. Clinton's never committed crimes. HW Bush didn't either, far as I know. GW should have been prosecuted for war crimes. Obama did not commit crimes. But your boy Dotard Don is a mobster and should face RICO charges in NY. Money laundering among other things. LOCK HIM UP!!!
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Nah. Clinton's never committed crimes. HW Bush didn't either, far as I know. GW should have been prosecuted for war crimes. Obama did not commit crimes. But your boy Dotard Don is a mobster and should face RICO charges in NY. Money laundering among other things. LOCK HIM UP!!!
















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Nah. Clinton's never committed crimes. HW Bush didn't either, far as I know. GW should have been prosecuted for war crimes. Obama did not commit crimes. But your boy Dotard Don is a mobster and should face RICO charges in NY. Money laundering among other things. LOCK HIM UP!!!
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Over here in Australia it was sold to us as a disaster for the world that Trump was elected president, and we were told it would dramatically affect us over here, but my life is no different. How has the average Americans life changed since Trump has been president ? I am genuinely curious ?
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Over here in Australia it was sold to us as a disaster for the world that Trump was elected president, and we were told it would dramatically affect us over here, but my life is no different. How has the average Americans life changed since Trump has been president ? I am genuinely curious ?
Well....

Labron hasn't lost his food stamps yet like he kept crying about.

Hispanics haven't been rounded up and shot like gunns feared.

Blacks haven't been put back into slavery like footy squealed about.

Taxes have gone down and more people have money in their paycheck.

More jobs are available. lowes black unemployment in American History. Hispanic unemployment way down too.

Consumer confidence is high than it's ever been in the last two decades.

The stock market is still better than it was before and people are buying expensive toys again.

I can't think of anything negative in my life besides trump playing to the anti-gun crowd threatening a ban on gun parts.
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at least he didnt kill 500,000 kids like the clintons.



I fully expected him to do something like that.
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Labron hasn't lost his food stamps yet like he kept crying about.
Dog Whistle Boy doing his Newt Gingrich impression again.

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Hispanics have been rounded up and deported like gunns feared.
FYP.

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Blacks haven't been put back into slavery like footy squealed about.
Predicted no one ever.

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Taxes have gone down for the top 1%. Already-wealthy people have even more money. $1.5T added to debt.
Large swaths of middle American industries and workers are losing their incomes and/or livelihoods because of IQ45's idiotic trade policies.
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More jobs are available. lowes black unemployment in American History. Hispanic unemployment way down too. Consumer confidence is high than it's ever been in the last two decades.
Did the golfer-in-chief accomplish these feats with a five iron? Or did he simply make them all happen by tweeting?

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The stock market is still better than it was before...
Fake news!

The market, which, BTW, was higher when Obama was in office, is tanking because of the golfer-in-chief's idiotic tariffs.

Gas prices are headed up again - thanks to Dolt45's ill-advised trashing of the Iran arms control agreement.

You really need to peek outside the Hannity/Jones/tRump Feedback Loop and read some real news now and again, Dunning-Kruger Boy.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:01 AM   #20
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Conservatives (since French Revolution): Society owes you nothing! You are only entitled to what you earn, and that principle is the foundation of our civilization's success.

Some dude (2018): what about gettin' pu$$y though

Conservatives: hm
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