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Old 12-29-2015, 09:17 PM   #1
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Texas Tech qb. This guy is absolutely amazing. Might be the most athletic qb I have ever seen, since the days of Michael Vick in his prime. Can run, scramble, and acurately hit passes down field to open receivers while on the run. I haven't seen anyone with his abilities in a long time. Plus, he is one tough son of a b****.

I am not sure what his status is as a pro prospect, but I am sure whatever NFL team gets him will be excited about him. I hope he doesn't go to the Patriots or any AFC West team (besides Denver) so I can root for him.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:51 PM   #2
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Well Mahomes is just a sophomore and I think I heard them say that he will be back at Texas Tech next year. Folks, remember this name: Patrick Mahomes II. He is the real deal. The complete total package that anyone can ever dream for in a qb.
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You want to post some highlights at least?
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:44 AM   #4
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Old 12-30-2015, 09:16 AM   #5
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the big xii has never produced a franchise QB

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From last night's Texas Bowl. Texas Tech's defense was very outmatched against LSU, but because of Mahomes and his offense, Texas Tech kept this competitive until the 4th quarter.

Here is a link to all the highlights from last nights game.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...meId=400852726

My favorite ones are 1st column 11th down, and 2nd column 7th down. There are several others worth looking at too.
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Another spread option qb from Tech, which has never ever ever produced a pro bowl QB? No thanks man.
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Old 12-30-2015, 09:26 AM   #8
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Like I said, I am not sure what his stock will be when it comes his status as a pro prospect, but he seems to have ALL the tools.

Pro body 6'4" 210
Very strong arm and accurate arm. Accuracy good on bombs and on deep crossing patters.
Very athletic with feet. Major dual threat abilities, can run, often runs for his life as it seems Texas Tech has a bad offensive line, and he can throw accurately down the field while on the run.
Last of all, he is one tough son of a b****. Keeps taking hits and keeps getting up.
He is also a fiery competitor that shows big emotion with big plays. I like that.

I am normally a CU Buffs fan, but I will also be a Texas Tech fan next year, because I love this kid.
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Another spread option qb from Tech, which has never ever ever produced a pro bowl QB? No thanks man.
I know people will say "system qb" because that is what Texas Tech is known for. But he makes the spread successful, because opposing defenses have to respect all of his abilities; the spread don't make him successful.
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I know people will say "system qb" because that is what Texas Tech is known for. But he makes the spread successful, because opposing defenses have to respect all of his abilities; the spread don't make him successful.
Eh. I think that's debatable.

The whole idea behind the spread is it makes quarterbacks look good. They have to make two quick reads, and their job is done on any given play. Spread option is even more that way. Two reads or run. That's what I'm seeing in the vid you've posted.

There's a chance, of course, that he could develop more; he's only a soph. But as of right now? Nah, man.
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Eh. I think that's debatable.

The whole idea behind the spread is it makes quarterbacks look good. They have to make two quick reads, and their job is done on any given play. Spread option is even more that way. Two reads or run. That's what I'm seeing in the vid you've posted.

There's a chance, of course, that he could develop more; he's only a soph. But as of right now? Nah, man.
All right, well good thing about this forum is that threads can be retrieved from years ago. This thread can be retrieved for future use down the road someday.
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All right, well good thing about this forum is that threads can be retrieved from years ago. This thread can be retrieved for future use down the road someday.
I look forward to your inevitable victory lap.
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:38 AM   #13
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I watched a little last night and I was certainly impressed.
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:46 AM   #14
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his pro career will probably a lot like his coach's... Bust!
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:47 AM   #15
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Eh. I think that's debatable.

The whole idea behind the spread is it makes quarterbacks look good. They have to make two quick reads, and their job is done on any given play. Spread option is even more that way. Two reads or run. That's what I'm seeing in the vid you've posted.

There's a chance, of course, that he could develop more; he's only a soph. But as of right now? Nah, man.
The point of the spread is to literally spread out the defense and force near one on one match ups and in most cases mismatches for your offense.
The reads are quick because the defense cannot fully adjust and plan their assignments accordingly.

The more space a defense allows the greater the opportunity for significant errors.
That is why teams hate the spread and the pace.

Now the simplified nature of the offense tends to lend itself to hinder QB's growth as a progression and read traditional style NFL QB but that also depends on the mental aptitude of the QB himself.

A lot of athletes play QB in a spread because their physical abilities can overcome their mental limitations in HS and college.
In the pros, everyone is a top notch athlete so you are far less special and able to get away with less.

College is played on the edge, the NFL is played between the tackles.
You get to the edge in college and it's a 15+ yard big play. In the pros it's a loss or a potential season ending kill shot.

We will begin to see more and more successful QB's from spread offenses in the NFL. Mariota is showing good progress. RGIII in the right situation can be a very nice QB.
Goff from Cal should be a good QB in the NFL and he is coming from Sonny Dykes spread.
Cam Newton is about to win MVP and potential have a 1 loss team heading into the playoffs and he came from the spread and the Panthers utilize a bit of spread read in their offense.
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Are you sure he's 6'4"?
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I'd rather have Paxton Lynch
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Are you sure he's 6'4"?
He's 6-3, but who cares about the 1"?
He is also a highly thought of baseball prospect. Pitcher and OF.
Had he been amenable to signing he likely would have been a top 8 round pick.

He is definitely a fine athlete. It will be interesting to watch his continued development.
He could break out into a draft star or he could go the way of Omar Jacobs(BGSU) and Jason Thomas(UNLV). Hyped up during their junior years as potential Heisman candidates, future NFL top picks and then flame out.
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I'd rather have Paxton Lynch
Mahomes is for 2017-2018 draft.
Goff, Lynch, Wentz, Hackenberg are the likely top guys for the 2016 draft.

Broncos will not get close to Lynch without dealing up in this draft.
More to the point, most Broncos fans would be apoplectic if they did trade up for a QB or drafted one early.
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Umm... you haven't seen a QB like this in a long time? They're all over the place these days.
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I'm a student at Texas Tech and he is definitely fun to watch. However, I don't think he will be much of an NFL quarterback as most of his production is on deep passes and blown coverages. He will be losing Jakeem Grant this year who was his number one target and he could easily run by people down the field. Grant was clocked at running 27 mph on a kick return. In games where Mahomes can't throw it down the field, he struggles big time.
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Umm... you haven't seen a QB like this in a long time? They're all over the place these days.

Probably 8 in the Big 12 alone.
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He's looking awfully ordinary v Auburn right now.
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Probably 8 in the Big 12 alone.
I disagree. The 8 quarterbacks that you mention in the big 12 are of the RG3 mold. Mahomes is a better passing version of Manziel.
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This. Bradford is as close as it has gotten recently... and I wouldn't give you Colquitt for him.

No talk about No Dakota's QB?
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