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Old 06-24-2018, 11:06 PM   #1
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Old 06-25-2018, 12:04 AM   #2
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He's really only got 2 options, stay in Cleveland or go to Philly.
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Nuggets need to unload as much dead salary as possible now that they're on the hook this year for Chandler, Arthur, Faried and Plumlee. All those guys need to be gone by 2019 and I think they should let Barton go too and slide Beasley into his spot. He's a much better defender and if he gets the opportunity, he can do most of what WB does in the backup guard spot...no need to keep him playing the 3 when you've got other candidates on the rise there. If we cut/trade all those guys, that's $50 million a year in dead salary. That takes care of Jokic and once Millsap leaves, that's another 30+ million. This team could dump all these guys and not lose a step, and gain the ability to sign another star player in FA to help this young core develop, then in a couple years when these kids are off their rookie deals, let whoever they bring in go and you've got the makings of a team that can compete in the west at a high level.
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If Lebron goes to Philly, his style of play makes Ben Simmons a non-factor. Yeah Lebron said he wants to play off the ball in the future, but I just don't see him moving into that role naturally, it isn't his style of play. And if he goes to Philly, can Ben Simmons operate off the ball ? Can he find a consistent, reliable jump shot ? I don't see that situation working out unless Lebron is actually serious about playing off the ball.

I like the idea of Lebron to Boston. I don't see it happening, and I don't know their cap situation, however if they could make it work, imagine that group of players. You have a healthy Kyrie Irving and Gordon Heyward, throw in a more seasoned Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, with a rotation of Morris, Baynes, and Horford in the front court, with Terry Rozier and Marcus Smart on the second unit, you have a deep, stacked roster with Lebron obviously stepping in and pushing them over the edge.

I agree the Nuggets need to dumb some of their bad contracts. I personally don't see them being able to dump Arthur, and I really hope they don't re-sign Barton, he is a slightly better Corey Brewer. I think the Nuggets will just have to eat the salary of Chandler this season, and I am sure Faried will be offloaded, it has to be the year to get rid of him, he deserves to be playing. That leaves Plumlee who this front office just re-signed, and seem to really like, I think he is here for a few more years.
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He's really only got 2 options, stay in Cleveland or go to Philly.
Or LA

Philly would make more sense if they also got kawhi. Embiid, lebron, and Simmons donít make a ton of basketball sense though itís a lot of talent, so they could make it work if they also retained a couple shooters (redick at the mid level, ilyasova).

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Nuggets need to unload as much dead salary as possible now that they're on the hook this year for Chandler, Arthur, Faried and Plumlee. All those guys need to be gone by 2019 and I think they should let Barton go too and slide Beasley into his spot. He's a much better defender and if he gets the opportunity, he can do most of what WB does in the backup guard spot...no need to keep him playing the 3 when you've got other candidates on the rise there. If we cut/trade all those guys, that's $50 million a year in dead salary. That takes care of Jokic and once Millsap leaves, that's another 30+ million. This team could dump all these guys and not lose a step, and gain the ability to sign another star player in FA to help this young core develop, then in a couple years when these kids are off their rookie deals, let whoever they bring in go and you've got the makings of a team that can compete in the west at a high level.

totally agree! Need to let Barton walk. Beasley is a cheaper option and Barton will cost to much for what his return is. Let someone else overpay for his services. Get rid of Chandler, Faried, Arthur and Plumee (whom is vastly overpaid)

and if we don't start shedding some of those contracts, we will be in paying a huge chunk of luxury tax.

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I'd like to see Bron go west for challenge. Where ever he goes I expect 2 great players
go with him in PG KW CP. I think LA is most likely.
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LeBron will chose between Cleveland or LA, somewhere that his family is familiar with. His family will have a big say in the decision this time.
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Nuggets need to unload as much dead salary as possible now that they're on the hook this year for Chandler, Arthur, Faried and Plumlee. All those guys need to be gone by 2019 and I think they should let Barton go too and slide Beasley into his spot. He's a much better defender and if he gets the opportunity, he can do most of what WB does in the backup guard spot...no need to keep him playing the 3 when you've got other candidates on the rise there. If we cut/trade all those guys, that's $50 million a year in dead salary. That takes care of Jokic and once Millsap leaves, that's another 30+ million. This team could dump all these guys and not lose a step, and gain the ability to sign another star player in FA to help this young core develop, then in a couple years when these kids are off their rookie deals, let whoever they bring in go and you've got the makings of a team that can compete in the west at a high level.
Agree on dumps Denver needs to nail 19 and 20 drafts for a big FA signing possibility. Super Team era hurts Denver's chances though.
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LeBron will chose between Cleveland or LA, somewhere that his family is familiar with. His family will have a big say in the decision this time.
How can Clev get it done though to please the king in 1 yr? How does money work to add Bron and PG KL or CP?
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How can Clev get it done though to please the king in 1 yr? How does money work to add Bron and PG KL or CP?
I think if lebron stays in Cle, theyíll trade Sexton and a couple pieces to charlotte for Kemba. Thatís not enough but itís an improvement
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I'd like to see Bron go west for challenge. Where ever he goes I expect 2 great players
go with him in PG KW CP. I think LA is most likely.
So what do folks think of the whole "Super Team" concept where players get together and go somewhere making them an instant contender. The Lakers are a poorly run **** pile but could immediately become a contender, not because of anything their management has done, but because of their location.

I don't see how you can stop it happening but unless I am a LA/Team in a State with no sales tax fan, I HATE it.

Golden State at least built a team through the draft. They went into "Holy-****-Ridiculously-Good" territory through the super team route with KD.
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So what do folks think of the whole "Super Team" concept where players get together and go somewhere making them an instant contender. The Lakers are a poorly run **** pile but could immediately become a contender, not because of anything their management has done, but because of their location.

I don't see how you can stop it happening but unless I am a LA/Team in a State with no sales tax fan, I HATE it.

Golden State at least built a team through the draft. They went into "Holy-****-Ridiculously-Good" territory through the super team route with KD.
I don't quite understand why people moralize how teams are built. Whether it's through drafting or FA, both require planning and luck.
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Nuggets need to unload as much dead salary as possible now that they're on the hook this year for Chandler, Arthur, Faried and Plumlee. All those guys need to be gone by 2019 and I think they should let Barton go too and slide Beasley into his spot. He's a much better defender and if he gets the opportunity, he can do most of what WB does in the backup guard spot...no need to keep him playing the 3 when you've got other candidates on the rise there. If we cut/trade all those guys, that's $50 million a year in dead salary. That takes care of Jokic and once Millsap leaves, that's another 30+ million. This team could dump all these guys and not lose a step, and gain the ability to sign another star player in FA to help this young core develop, then in a couple years when these kids are off their rookie deals, let whoever they bring in go and you've got the makings of a team that can compete in the west at a high level.
Arther/Faried/Milsap(team option) expire after the season. Plumlee is 2020

Agree on letting Barton walk
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I think if lebron stays in Cle, theyíll trade Sexton and a couple pieces to charlotte for Kemba. Thatís not enough but itís an improvement
He should move to LA. A lot more options to retool the roster than Cleveland. Cleveland is capped out and no draft picks
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He should move to LA. A lot more options to retool the roster than Cleveland. Cleveland is capped out and no draft picks
I agree. Though I don't think he has any great options.
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Rumor is that Lebum is looking at a bigger home in LA, and wants a sign and trade deal to keep the 35 million a year, max contract.
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Rumor is that Lebum is looking at a bigger home in LA, and wants a sign and trade deal to keep the 35 million a year, max contract.
One team is always fleeced in a sign and trade. Hopefully the Cavs luck out like the Nuggets did when Melo left.
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I don't quite understand why people moralize how teams are built. Whether it's through drafting or FA, both require planning and luck.
I'm not intending to "moralize" just wondering how other people view it. I feel like LA has been a **** show for a long time. Now, they stand a very real chance of becoming dominant, more due to luck than planning and skill.

But that is part of life. Lots of people fall in **** and come out smelling like a rose while others seemingly do everything right and never catch the big break.

Players can go wherever they want. As a fan of a franchise outside of the "glamour" areas, I hate it because my team will never get this chance!
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Rumor is that Lebum is looking at a bigger home in LA, and wants a sign and trade deal to keep the 35 million a year, max contract.
He owns two 20 million dollar mansions out here already
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I'm not intending to "moralize" just wondering how other people view it. I feel like LA has been a **** show for a long time. Now, they stand a very real chance of becoming dominant, more due to luck than planning and skill.

But that is part of life. Lots of people fall in **** and come out smelling like a rose while others seemingly do everything right and never catch the big break.

Players can go wherever they want. As a fan of a franchise outside of the "glamour" areas, I hate it because my team will never get this chance!
A long time? They dominated most of 2000-2010
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A long time? They dominated most of 2000-2010
They haven't even been to the playoffs since the '12-'13 season and they were swept that year.

5 years is a long time in the NBA. They are currently in the 4th longest playoff drought (Tied with the hapless Knicks and no-luck Nuggets) behind perennial power houses Sacramento (12), Phoenix (8) and Orlando (6).

Most people would call all of those franchises a **** show on some level.

The Lakers have a proud and undeniably great tradition. But they've been poorly run and sad now for half a decade and now they can become a serious contender overnight because of where they are more than who they are.

Great for Laker fan, bull**** for the rest of us.
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