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Old 11-29-2017, 01:59 PM   #1
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Default good summary of why Russia-gate is a scam

Nice job, Caitlin!

Russiagate Explained


Caitlin Johnstone
Rogue journalist, poet, and utopia prepper.
Nov 25

Michael Flynn is in the news again. Russiagaters are gushing with excitement at the revelation that Flynn’s lawyers are no longer sharing information with the president’s legal team now that Robert Mueller’s investigation is looking more closely at the former National Security Advisor’s involvement in the production of a film about an exiled cleric from Turkey. The story goes that this separation means that Flynn has struck a deal with Mueller, which Mueller wouldn’t permit him to do if he didn’t have damning information on Trump.

Of course this excitement is dependent on the false belief that Mueller’s job is to get the president impeached, and that he would only cut deals toward that ultimate end. It is also dependent on the false belief that there is any evidence to be found that Trump illegally colluded with the Russian government to steal the 2016 election. And, like the rest of the Russiagate enthusiasm around Flynn, it is also somewhat dependent on compartmentalizing away from the fact the Turkey and Russia are two completely different countries.

This is all par for course in the interminable dance of soaring excitement followed by thinly veiled disappointment that Russiagaters have been engaged in for over a year. I’ve been receiving some complaints that I don’t recap enough on the specific details of why I reject the establishment Russia narrative so aggressively, so if you’re just tuning in, what follows is a quick synopsis of how this weird thing has been going so far.

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https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/r...d-721cb5843857
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Old 11-29-2017, 02:24 PM   #2
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Why aren't you living in Russia?
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An expose on Herr Gaffo's latest nut job source, Caitlin Johnstone:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thedail...onspiracy-nut/

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Old 11-29-2017, 11:40 PM   #5
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Notice, there's no debate or discussion about the points made in the article. As always around here, the reaction is to attack the messenger.
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Why aren't you living in Russia?
Are you living in Canada
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:54 AM   #7
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Notice, there's no debate or discussion about the points made in the article.
For the same reason why there's little or no debate or discussion re: the claim that Sandy Hook was a "false flag," i.e., because it's a demonstrably false, bat **** crazy conspiracy theory.
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Notice, there's no debate or discussion about the points made in the article. As always around here, the reaction is to attack the messenger.
We have effectively tuned you out I think. I never read anything you post. I just read other people's comments.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:33 AM   #9
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Notice, there's no debate or discussion about the points made in the article. As always around here, the reaction is to attack the messenger.
Lets wait until the results of the investigation are released, and if there is any evidence that comes out of it.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:35 AM   #10
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der gaffo still thinks we take him seriously.

He he he.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:57 AM   #11
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It's interesting that somewhere out there in the political ethers, the alt-left fringe and the alt-right fringe actually meet and agree on some of the whackiest ideas.
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Old 11-30-2017, 06:23 AM   #12
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A folksinger named Iris Dement had this country figured out in her 1996 song

Livin' in the Wasteland of the Free
Iris DeMent, 1996

We got preachers dealing in politics and diamond mines
and their speech is growing increasingly unkind
They say they are Christ's disciples
but they don't look like Jesus to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

We got politicians running races on corporate cash
Now don't tell me they don't turn around and kiss them peoples' ass
You may call me old-fashioned
but that don't fit my picture of a true democracy
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

We got CEO's making two hundred times the workers' pay
but they'll fight like hell against raising the minimum wage
and If you don't like it, mister, they'll ship your job
to some third-world country 'cross the sea
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

Living in the wasteland of the free
where the poor have now become the enemy
Let's blame our troubles on the weak ones
Sounds like some kind of Hitler remedy
Living in the wasteland of the free

We got little kids with guns fighting inner city wars
So what do we do, we put these little kids behind prison doors
and we call ourselves the advanced civilization
that sounds like crap to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

We got high-school kids running 'round in Calvin Klein and Guess
who cannot pass a sixth-grade reading test
but if you ask them, they can tell you
the name of every crotch on MTV
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

We kill for oil, then we throw a party when we win
Some guy refuses to fight, and we call that the sin
but he's standing up for what he believes in
and that seems pretty damned American to me
and it feels like I am living in the wasteland of the free

Living in the wasteland of the free
where the poor have now become the enemy
Let's blame our troubles on the weak ones
Sounds like some kind of Hitler remedy
Living in the wasteland of the free

While we sit gloating in our greatness
justice is sinking to the bottom of the sea
Living in the wasteland of the free
Living in the wasteland of the free
Living in the wasteland of the free

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Old 11-30-2017, 06:30 AM   #13
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Notice, there's no debate or discussion about the points made in the article. As always around here, the reaction is to attack the messenger.
There's a simple reason for that. We know you're full of **** already.

What countries that you write about have you visited?

Have you ever been outside the US?

Why do you fear this question?
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:03 PM   #14
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Former CIA Analyst on the Agency’s History of Lying to the Public

Retired CIA officer, Ray McGovern speaks about the intelligence community’s habit of disseminating faulty intelligence for the benefit of the war machine.

McGovern co-founded a group called Veterans Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), which fights to bring people the truth, especially when it comes counter to government lies or the media’s propaganda machine.

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Anyone who still believes, with indictments and guilty pleas mounting, that the investigation is a “scam” is straight up delusional.
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Anyone who still believes, with indictments and guilty pleas mounting, that the investigation is a “scam” is straight up delusional.
Delusional? hah.

Did you listen to Ray McGovern explain he difference between a hack and a leak?
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Do you know the difference? Obviously not.
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If you believe the entire WH staff lawyers up and indictments, immunity deals and guilty pleas happen in response to "fake news," then you are a delusional crack smoker.
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If you believe the entire WH staff lawyers up and indictments, immunity deals and guilty pleas happen in response to "fake news," then you are a delusional crack smoker.
Answer the question. Do you know the difference between a hack and a leak?
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Answer the question. Do you know the difference between a hack and a leak?
Irrelevant to the point I just made.
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If you believe the entire WH staff lawyers up and indictments, immunity deals and guilty pleas happen in response to "fake news," then you are a delusional crack smoker.
I think that's clear from everything he believes. Russia is merely one link in his long chain of bizarre ideas.
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An expose on Herr Gaffo's latest nut job source, Caitlin Johnstone:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thedail...onspiracy-nut/
Do you know what a genetic fallacy is?
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ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!
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lemmings...headed for the cliff.

You hate Trump more than you love the truth. Sad.
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What's Venus?

Why aren't you living in Russia?

How many CIA bases are there on the Moon and on Mars?
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