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Old 01-07-2018, 12:41 AM   #1
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Default Could Wolf get released?

His cap hit is 10.8 mil in 2018, broncos save 7 mil by releasing him.

He has battled spinal injuries and this year was placed on IR for spinal stenosis.

Now, I love dereck wolf just as much as any bronco fan, but damn. Could this really happen?
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:47 AM   #2
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it would be a ****ty move because he took less to stay with team.

If you want lockerroom to just become a group of mercs, then whatever.
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Old 01-07-2018, 12:48 AM   #3
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It's an unfortunate situation, but yeah it's a real possibility for a couple reasons.
1. Wolfe's health. He may just say he's had enough and retire to keep his health, but announcing it after DEN releases him.
2. DEN needs that cap to sign Cousins and keep Talib in DEN.
And Gotstis played much better this year.

I hate the idea of it, but it's a real good chance it happens.
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:01 AM   #4
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Depends on how bad the injury diagnosis is. He could need surgery, could be just treatment, if it's severe enough he may need to retire.

I would doubt that we would cut him, more than likely rework his contract and see how he heals.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:07 AM   #5
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Hmmm, I don't know, I think the team was kinda going into full tank mode last few games and there seemed to be alot of misc injuries popping up. Not saying Wolf didn't have a lagit injury, but it could have been not as bad as they were saying just so they could shelve him.

I personally wouldn't cut him. I think he's going to be just fine and he's a stud inside.
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Old 01-07-2018, 03:13 AM   #6
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The same thought crossed my mind, it would be a savage move but it does make business sense. I love Wolfe and would hate to lose him but I can see this happening, especially if we sign an expensive FA QB
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keep him and ask von / DT to restructure to keep wolfe.
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:49 AM   #8
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Wolfe will be ok, rehabbing now and will be ready for 2018 season
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Old 01-07-2018, 05:58 AM   #9
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Elway said he doesnt like to take away from a strength to help other parts of the team in his press conference the other day. I dont see Wolfe leaving this summer with so much on the line.

Plus, the cap isnt real anyways.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:03 AM   #10
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If you cut Wolfe, you won't be seeing any more home town discounts any time soon.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:12 AM   #11
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If you cut Wolfe, you won't be seeing any more home town discounts any time soon.
Agree with this. We have to do him right.

He may need to become more of a two down player. We could restructure with incentives.
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Old 01-07-2018, 06:20 AM   #12
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There are multiple threads on page one right now with Broncos player names mis-spelled by the OP. Really guys?
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Cutting Wolfe would be insane.
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Stenosis, the narrowing of the spinal cord canal, is a chronic condition that tends to go hand in hand with arthritis and inflammation diseases. One day you feel fine, the next you can’t move. This will continue to plague him for the rest of his life, let alone playing career. The “procedure” to “fix” stenosis is to remove the dorsal section of the affected vertebrae, leaving you very vulnerable to further damage from contact and movement; so not typically an option for those still in sports. They’ll likely do what they can to reduce the causes of inflammation (rehab, diet, reduced high impact, etc) and manage the pain the best they can. It’s not crippling until it is, so it’ll be a big decision for Wolfe to make.
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Old 01-07-2018, 08:32 AM   #15
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He was on The Fan on Jan 2nd and was having a bad day. In a lot of pain. Makes you really wonder how much longer he can go. You can listen here: http://1043thefan.com/164758/derek-w...he-drive-1218/


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Wednesday, he expanded on the injury on 104.3 The Fan, admitting he has spinal stenosis in the C7 segment of his neck. Per spine-health.com, this signals a nerve root has become compressed, causing pain on the arm. Wolfe continues to rest as he anticipates a full recovery, saying he is driven to play at least 10 years in the NFL.

"We get (the neck) fixed up, and I won't have to deal with it ever again," Wolfe said. "I did a lot of neck strengthening (after a neck injury in 2013). And sometimes that closes the holes where the nerves come out. I have to make sure to keep those clear and keep pressure off the neck. Right now I am taking time to heal. ... Even though my neck was hurt, I wanted to keep pushing for my teammates. I couldn't take it anymore. The reason I am taking the time to fix it is that I think it will extend my career. After 10 years I am looking to stop, and no more than 12 because I want to live my life."
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He said he plans to play next year, and as others have said, i wouldnt touch his contract since he took a discount at the time.
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Unfortunately Wolfe's career is going to be similar to Al Wilson's. If the stenotic area is at C7 he needs to consider his long-term plan and stay healthy.
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It's an unfortunate situation, but yeah it's a real possibility for a couple reasons.
1. Wolfe's health. He may just say he's had enough and retire to keep his health, but announcing it after DEN releases him.
2. DEN needs that cap to sign Cousins and keep Talib in DEN.
And Gotstis played much better this year.

I hate the idea of it, but it's a real good chance it happens.
If we cut Talib to keep Wolfe that would be a huge mistake. We need to cut Talib even if it may be a year early, better than a year late.
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So we are thinking about stripping the team just out of the need to sign an overhyped QB? What the hell is wrong with people around here? Cousins is not worth 25 mil.
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He was on The Fan on Jan 2nd and was having a bad day. In a lot of pain. Makes you really wonder how much longer he can go. You can listen here: http://1043thefan.com/164758/derek-w...he-drive-1218/


Derek Wolfe admits has stenosis in spine; believes will return better, stronger
Sounds like he has the less severe form of it. The more crucial is lower back or the kind where surgery is required.
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So we are thinking about stripping the team just out of the need to sign an overhyped QB? What the hell is wrong with people around here? Cousins is not worth 25 mil.
As good as Wolfe is, he is expendable since he never really plays a full season.
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So we are thinking about stripping the team just out of the need to sign an overhyped QB? What the hell is wrong with people around here? Cousins is not worth 25 mil.
What is your solution to the QB situation?
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What is your solution to the QB situation?
Better question, if you pay Cousins 25+ mil, even with a 15-20 mil cap hit in year 1, where do you get the money to surround him with more talent?

The Broncos have around 26 mil in cap space as it stands, you can clear 8.9 mil by cutting Wolfe with a June 1, another 8.1 by cutting Sanders with a June 1, another 11 can be gained by cutting Talib.

So roughly 27.9 by cutting those 3.

Theorhetically you would have 53.9(62.9 if you restructure DT) mil to use in FA to fill those holes. 33.9-42.9 after Cousins first year hit of 20 mil.
Except...you would need to replace your #1 CB who is making #3 CB money, replace your best DE/DT all while trying to break in Walker, find depth at WR, sign a TE, fill the RT(really LT)position & etc.

So in theory you go from needs at
QB, LT, TE, WR, OG, ILB, RB

to needs at
#1 CB, LT, DE, WR, OG, ILB, RB

So you can either have 26 mil to spend and have minimal holes with the need to draft a QB or you can have 33.9-42.9 mil to spend with a QB and more holes.
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Better question, if you pay Cousins 25+ mil, even with a 15-20 mil cap hit in year 1, where do you get the money to surround him with more talent?

The Broncos have around 26 mil in cap space as it stands, you can clear 8.9 mil by cutting Wolfe with a June 1, another 8.1 by cutting Sanders with a June 1, another 11 can be gained by cutting Talib.

So roughly 27.9 by cutting those 3.

Theorhetically you would have 53.9(62.9 if you restructure DT) mil to use in FA to fill those holes. 33.9-42.9 after Cousins first year hit of 20 mil.
Except...you would need to replace your #1 CB who is making #3 CB money, replace your best DE/DT all while trying to break in Walker, find depth at WR, sign a TE, fill the RT(really LT)position & etc.

So in theory you go from needs at
QB, LT, TE, WR, OG, ILB, RB

to needs at
#1 CB, LT, DE, WR, OG, ILB, RB

So you can either have 26 mil to spend and have minimal holes with the need to draft a QB or you can have 33.9-42.9 mil to spend with a QB and more holes.
Gotsis, Walker, Harris would replace Wolfe (i dont think we cut him though).
Roby replaces Talib.
I dont think we cut Sanders.

You dont add in Watson or CJ which clears damn near 10 million of cap.

If we restructure Von's deal it saves about 13 mil but would add 4 mil to his cap hits from 19-21.
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Old 01-07-2018, 10:04 AM   #25
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A fully healthy Wolfe is worth $10mil per... but if he’s Clady going forward then dueces.
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