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Old 10-22-2018, 11:24 AM   #251
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The Saudis have a new story, which contradicts their last story, which contradicted their initial story. They've provided no evidence for any of the three.
"I can't abide a President that shrugs off lies and propaganda about a murder in the Middle East. A real President calls up Susan Rice and runs that propaganda effort himself!"

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Old 10-22-2018, 11:29 AM   #252
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Is Whatabout Beaver still at it?


Dude has an inexhaustible supply of deflections, false comparisons and whataboutisms.


tRump should create a special cabinet post for this guy - such is Beaver's work ethic.
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:23 PM   #253
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The height of cynicism: Saudi king and prince phone Khashoggi's son to give condolences
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...turkey-killing
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:24 PM   #254
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Is Whatabout Beaver still at it?


Dude has an inexhaustible supply of deflections, false comparisons and whataboutisms.


tRump should create a special cabinet post for this guy - such is Beaver's work ethic.
That bot is pure relativism.
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:10 PM   #256
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Serious question...

How do you guys believe President Obama would've handled this situation? And I don't mean rhetorically. I mean what actual, tangible sanction do you believe he would've placed on the Saudis for this action?
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Serious question...

How do you guys believe President Obama would've handled this situation? And I don't mean rhetorically. I mean what actual, tangible sanction do you believe he would've placed on the Saudis for this action?
The first thing he would have done would have been to sever all personal business and financial ties with the kingdom.





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Old 10-22-2018, 03:31 PM   #258
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:45 PM   #259
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:49 PM   #260
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All he does is lie...

The $110 billion arms deal to Saudi Arabia is fake news

Last month, President Trump visited Saudi Arabia and his administration announced that he had concluded a $110 billion arms deal with the kingdom. Only problem is that there is no deal. It’s fake news.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/marka...-is-fake-news/
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Old 10-23-2018, 12:50 PM   #261
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All about personal business...

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Old 10-23-2018, 04:04 PM   #262
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All he does is lie...

The $110 billion arms deal to Saudi Arabia is fake news

Last month, President Trump visited Saudi Arabia and his administration announced that he had concluded a $110 billion arms deal with the kingdom. Only problem is that there is no deal. It’s fake news.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/marka...-is-fake-news/
Of course, I've been pointing this out...and it's not even a secret. It's been known for more than a year.

Why isn't the media pointing this out? Obviously, if his supposed reason for wanting to wink at the Saudis torturing and beheading a US-based journalist inside a foreign embassy doesn't really exist...then shouldn't we should be asking a very relevant question?

Why IS he doing it?
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Old 11-20-2018, 12:02 PM   #263
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Trump of course siding with Saudi Arabia over the U.S. intelligence community. Can you even begin to imagine if Obama had done this?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/polit...bia/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/polit...ggi/index.html


In an exclamation-mark laden statement subtitled "America First!" Trump said that "our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event -- maybe he did and maybe he didn't!"
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Trump of course siding with Saudi Arabia over the U.S. intelligence community. Can you even begin to imagine if Obama had done this?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/polit...bia/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/20/polit...ggi/index.html


In an exclamation-mark laden statement subtitled "America First!" Trump said that "our intelligence agencies continue to assess all information, but it could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event -- maybe he did and maybe he didn't!"
No surprise there. So far, Trump has sided (against the free world) with Putin, Jong Un, Xi, Duterte, Erdogan and now the Saudis (while insulting our partners and allies). It's basically his pattern: Always go with the dictator. Like I said, Trump is the anti-Reagan. The idea that America leads a coalition of democracies against the forces of tyranny and dictatorship doesn't interest Trump in the least. He prefers to go where the money is. That's his life story. Like his own son, Eric, pointed out, "We get all the money we need from Russia."
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Old 11-20-2018, 01:08 PM   #265
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Dotard Don, in his statement about the killing of Khashoggi, displays his own inane, imbecilic and incoherent ramblings and policy towards Saudi Arabia. He has abdicated any whiff of moral or principled leadership ot conduct on the foreign policy of the United States. The man is stupid.
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Donald Trump has expressed his unstinting support for Saudi Arabia and claimed there was “nothing definitive” linking Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to the murder of the Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi.

In the extraordinary statement issued on Tuesday – which begins with the words “The world is a very dangerous place!” – Trump quotes Saudi officials as describing Khashoggi as an “enemy of the state”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...i-crown-prince

This clown is a despicable piece of ****. Impeach now.


You can go to the link above to see how many lies the pos told about this one.
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Trump should definitely be doing a lot more heavy posturing.

But that's all it would be. And it's all Obama "Here Iran, execute our America-residing CIA Asset" Obama would have done as well.

These regimes murder people on a daily basis. Journalists included. We've never reordered middle east geopolitics over the issue before.
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Trump should definitely be doing a lot more heavy posturing.

But that's all it would be. And it's all Obama "Here Iran, execute our America-residing CIA Asset" Obama would have done as well.

These regimes murder people on a daily basis. Journalists included. We've never reordered middle east geopolitics over the issue before.
Agree. But making statements in support of the murderers, and opposed to U.S. intelligence, is beyond stupid and unacceptable.
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Agree. But making statements in support of the murderers, and opposed to U.S. intelligence, is beyond stupid and unacceptable.
Yeah, it's idiotic. No arguing that.

Not sure how you leverage any pressure in private with that kind of rhetoric in public.
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Tulsi Gabbard tells it like it is:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...-b****-n939011
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It looks to me like Trump has his hands tied right now...

Mattis: CIA Hasn't "Fully Established" Who Is Responsible For Khashoggi Killing

Even as the scandal surrounding Saudi Arabia's role in the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi threatened one of the US's most important strategic alliances in the Middle East, Defense Secretary James Mattis remained conspicuously tight lipped about who bore responsibility for the killing, saying only that diplomatic crisis undermined stability in the region.

Well, one day after President Trump declared that the CIA could still very well determine that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman didn't know anything about the killing - despite Friday's Washington Post report claiming that the agency strongly believed that the order to kill Khashoggi came directly from the prince - Mattis defended his boss during a Pentagon press conference, saying that neither the CIA nor the Saudi government have "fully established" who was behind the killing. And even if the CIA could find definitive proof, it wouldn't change the fact that it's in the US's interest to work with the Saudis.

Because presidents don't always get to work with "unblemished" strategic partners, Mattis said. Furthermore, it's the president's duty to balance competing interests, and that Khashoggi's killers must be held accountable - but that the US must also work with the kingdom to end the humanitarian crisis in Yemen.

Meanwhile, Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir played down reports about a rumored coup in Riyadh and said rumors about changing the line of succession were "ridiculous" and "way out of line," according to CNBC.

Given these remarks, and Trump's tweet from earlier Wednesday, we can expect oil prices to take another leg lower.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...shoggi-killing
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Jesus: for thirty pieces of silver.....

Oil: for thirty pieces of Kashoggi.......
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