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Old 01-11-2019, 04:12 PM   #151
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Considering that Kubes supposedly had a big hand in our draft class, I really wish we didn't lose him in the personnel department. I'm OK with a new OC but I think he was a good influence on the organization.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:15 PM   #152
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Great, great news. I was OK with the thought of Kubes as OC, but the second he wanted to bring all his washed up friends along I was seriously worrying.

This works great. So, hooray!
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:16 PM   #153
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Considering that Kubes supposedly had a big hand in our draft class, I really wish we didn't lose him in the personnel department. I'm OK with a new OC but I think he was a good influence on the organization.
That's the thing. Nobody knows. He was around for other drafts that totally sucked. Who really influenced it? Was it just blind luck (as the draft often is)? Who cares? Rick Dennison is not going to be on our staff. THIS IS ALL THAT MATTERS.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:21 PM   #154
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Iím so hyped for Munchak.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:25 PM   #155
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This is the best day in the history of days. Just get the **** out and stay gone.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:27 PM   #156
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I wish Kubiak the best of luck. He's been part of the Broncos for a very long time and has been a big part of all three Super Bowls. Wish he wasn't so stubborn in bringing back his buddies, but alas so be it.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:27 PM   #157
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:30 PM   #158
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IDGAF who Elway drafts, who we pick up in FA, whether he and Keenum get married, any of it. If we can get both Fangio and Munchak, I'm all set... until like week 4.
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Hallelujah!! Please don't let it be Dennison.....
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Hallelujah!! Please don't let it be Dennison.....
Make sure Elway stays away from the bars and we should be good.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:36 PM   #162
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Hallelujah!! Please don't let it be Dennison.....
Err...you miss the part where it all fell through because Elway didn't want Dennison?
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Hallelujah!! Please don't let it be Dennison.....
Dennison is why Kubiak is gone. It's not him, he wont be on the coaching staff, thank god, i hate that man.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:39 PM   #165
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This is great news. I was trying to take Kubes back calling plays like a man, staying composed on the outside. But, on the inside, every fiber of my being was twitching at the idea. It would have just been more of the offense we've seen for the last four years. Gross.

We desperately need new ideas on that side of the ball, especially if we draft a QB....and we have to.

I think this is a great development for the broncos.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:41 PM   #166
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The thought process of all this seems pretty transparent to me.

1. Wanted McVay's QB coach Taylor with Kubiak in an advisory role
2. Taylor turns it down
3. Pivot to Kubiak as Plan B
4. Realize Kubiak isn't going to change, pivot to an alteration of Plan A
5. Go after Shanahan's QB coach Scangarello

I think the whole time they've wanted someone who has hands-on-training with young QBs and learned under one of the best offensive coaches in football.
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:46 PM   #167
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Elway: Gary, which QB do you think we should draft?

Kubiak: Let's roll with Keenum

Elway: I mean, sure we can do that for a bit, but we should have someone waiting in the wings.

Kubiak: OH! HAVE A GREAT IDEA!

Elway: Yeah?

Kubiak: Let's trade for Matt Schaub! Apparently he's still in the league! I had no idea, but it's true!

Elway: ....

Kubiak: I'm hiring Rico.

Elway: You're fired.
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By the way, I do think there's something to Fangio not wanting Kubiak either once he met with him and looked over the offense. I'm imagining how that meeting went:

"Hey Vic, here's that package you were asking for my offensive plans."

Fangio looks it over, a frown slowly growing across his face as he turns each page. Once he finishes he looks at the folder, flipping it over in his hand, as if he expects something more to fall out. "Is this it, Gary?"

"Yes, why?" Kubiak asks, seemingly oblivious.

"Nevermind Gary. Do you mind if I get back to you on this?"

"Sure, coach."

Fangio picks up the phone after Kubiak leaves his office, and dials Elway's extension. "John, we have a problem."

"Oh, what is it?" Elway asks, slurring his words ever so slightly.

"Kubiak's offense...it's the same as the one I defended against when I coached against the Broncos back in 1997."

"Really, Vic?" The faint sound of ice clinking against glass can be heard on the receiver.

"Yeah John. I mean, I could defend this in my sleep."

"Huh. Well let me talk to Gary about it, okay?"

"That's just not going to work. You know that, right?" Fangio reiterates, one eyebrow much higher than the other one, his face betraying annoyance at the whole affair.

"Gotcha Vic. Me and Gare are meeting soon anyway. We need to talk about the coaches he's interested in bringing in anyway..."
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:58 PM   #169
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I JUST ARRIVED PEOPLE, AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS IS THE BEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD IN THE WORLD EVER.
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Err...you miss the part where it all fell through because Elway didn't want Dennison?
Oops I'm out for dinner and didn't read the details. There was a breakup over Dennison? Elway is the freakin man.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:05 PM   #171
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First post here. I'm moving on from the Broncos' official message boards after 11 years, so I guess this will be my new home to talk about the team.

I agree that, in terms of offensive philosophy, not hiring Kubiak as OC might be a good move. He is stuck in the past with a system that has been updated by Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay.

As someone already wrote here, this is more a PR fiasco than anything. Elway jumped the gun throwing Kubiak's name to the media before discussing basic details such as assistant coaches and X's & O's. Now Kubiak went from front-office advisor or OC to possibly out of the organization.

We have to give Vic Fangio credit for being a veteran during his press conference and avoiding any talk about Kubiak. He kept himself out of trouble and now he won't have to backtrack.

As far as the replacement at OC, the 49ers just denied permission to interview Rick Scangarello, but the real asset in that 49ers' staff might be Mike McDaniel, their running-game coordinator - but we won't get neither of them anyway. Kyle Shanahan lost the Broncos' HC job to the unqualified Vance Joseph, so I'm not surprised Elway was denied the chance to pick a coach from Shanahan's staff.

The issue is that Kubiak was "Plan A", Scangarello already looked like an improvisation, and now we're down to "Plan C" a.k.a. desperation mode. Time to get creative.
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I guess Elway and John Lynch aren't as tight as we thought. 49ers denied the Broncos permission to interview Scangarello.

Maybe the Broncos will remove Lynch from the Ring of Fame, seeing that he doesn't belong there.
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I guess Elway and John Lynch aren't as tight as we thought. 49ers denied the Broncos permission to interview Scangarello.

Maybe the Broncos will remove Lynch from the Ring of Fame, seeing that he doesn't belong there.
Kyle actually has a ton of pull and I bet he put his foot down.
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Iím so hyped for Munchak.
Is there information suggesting we add Munchak in some way?
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Is there information suggesting we add Munchak in some way?
Nothing is official but we're trying to lure him to be the OL coach.
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