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Old 01-06-2019, 03:01 PM   #51
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Denver has the running backs but needs a better OL.
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I said the team with the most rush ATTEMPTS would win every game
now 3 for 3.
BTW, the CHARGERS rabn the ball more than the magical 30 times .
Stop this BS. You are too stupid to realize the only way you can get to 30 runs is if your running game is effective. The Ravens tried your theory and went 2 quarters and over 2 hours without a first down. They ran at a way higher percentage than the Chargers and were getting blown out until they had to pass. Roughly 17 of LJ's passes came on the last 3 drives when passing was the only option. They tried your whoever runs the ball more wins and were getting crushed.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:32 PM   #53
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All I remember is Radio telling everyone at the after game presser that passing wins games. That was it. It didn't matter how we were playing or who we were playing against, it was "passing wins games!" I knew he was done with that stupid statement. Hopefully we have the perfect balance and somehow Case learns to throw the ball quicker and down field better. It wasn't all on him and hopefully the youth has that experience next season.
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Stop this BS. You are too stupid to realize the only way you can get to 30 runs is if your running game is effective. The Ravens tried your theory and went 2 quarters and over 2 hours without a first down. They ran at a way higher percentage than the Chargers and were getting blown out until they had to pass. Roughly 17 of LJ's passes came on the last 3 drives when passing was the only option. They tried your whoever runs the ball more wins and were getting crushed.
the ravens attempted less than 20 runs for the entire game.
they dropped LJ at least 12 times in a standard drop back QB formation.
of course he excels from that standing target formation.
run the ball win the game, it even works for the chatgers.
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I will give you a million dollars where I said
"run the ball poorly "
the Lombardi quote destined for my tombstone reads,
run the ball, defend the run, hold up the trophy.
V. Lombardi.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:55 PM   #56
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Stop this BS. You are too stupid to realize the only way you can get to 30 runs is if your running game is effective. The Ravens tried your theory and went 2 quarters and over 2 hours without a first down. They ran at a way higher percentage than the Chargers and were getting blown out until they had to pass. Roughly 17 of LJ's passes came on the last 3 drives when passing was the only option. They tried your whoever runs the ball more wins and were getting crushed.
the only BS is on your plate, next to your crow.
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if the ravens get to the "SHOW " yoyu may see OWNERS looking that way, current coaches and GMs have been resistant, insisting it wont work in the NFL, but their resistance may get their arses kicked by reality.
YES a team must be able to PASS, but I still side with LOMBARDI when it comes to playing football.
Ravens got their ass handed to them trying your strategy.
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I will give you a million dollars where I said
"run the ball poorly "
the Lombardi quote destined for my tombstone reads,
run the ball, defend the run, hold up the trophy.
V. Lombardi.
You have beat the drum that it is all about attempts not yards. What you are too stupid to realize is yards to matter because you won't get the attempts if you go 3 and out running it every down. See the Ravens today. Here is your quote.

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I contend that every single team who has the most rushing ATTEMPTS in their games will win, yards be damned... ATTEMPTS !
Didn't you say you would quit talking about this BULL**** cherry picked argument if you could find 3 teams that lost running it 30 times? It took about 5 min to prove your garbage on that.
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After watching the Seahawks and Ravens falter this week, I'm sure we can put to bed this idea of a strong running game as some sort of panacea.
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AFC can be described right here in 4 words. Mahomes, Luck, Brady, Rivers.

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You have beat the drum that it is all about attempts not yards. What you are too stupid to realize is yards to matter because you won't get the attempts if you go 3 and out running it every down. See the Ravens today. Here is your quote.



Didn't you say you would quit talking about this BULL**** cherry picked argument if you could find 3 teams that lost running it 30 times? It took about 5 min to prove your garbage on that.
He said it, and promptly ignored it.

So he is a liar as well
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AFC can be described right here in 4 words. Mahomes, Luck, Brady, Rivers.
and yet four contests, and in each and every contest the team that ran the ball the most, ATTEMPTS, won the game, all of them, no matter the QB.
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and yet four contests, and in each and every contest the team that ran the ball the most, ATTEMPTS, won the game, all of them, no matter the QB.
You are too ****ing stupid to realize that means they got up big passing and ran the clock out. You were supposed to stop saying this BS after you were proved wrong showing you where teams have lost running it 30 times. Ravens had a much higher run percentage but could get any yards out of it so they had less plays. They had 10 passing attempts in the 4fh quarter at 1 point.
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You are too ****ing stupid to realize that means they got up big passing and ran the clock out. You were supposed to stop saying this BS after you were proved wrong showing you where teams have lost running it 30 times. Ravens had a much higher run percentage but could get any yards out of it so they had less plays. They had 10 passing attempts in the 4fh quarter at 1 point.
if you watched the games you know that the old cliche of justification does not apply to every game.
anger mounts as reality rears its ugly head
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if you watched the games you know that the old cliche of justification does not apply to every game.
anger mounts as reality rears its ugly head
You obviously didnt watch Seattle or Baltimore apply your theory this weekend.
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You obviously didnt watch Seattle or Baltimore apply your theory this weekend.
I understand you are having a hard time coping with the reality, most run attempts equals victory.
4 for 4.
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I understand you are having a hard time coping with the reality, most run attempts equals victory.
4 for 4.
I like how you have changed your stance. You used to always preach it's all about running attempts not yards. Total BS
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I like how you have changed your stance. You used to always preach it's all about running attempts not yards. Total BS
and its still about ATTEMPTS, have you lost sight of reality at this point ?
never said a word about yards, EVER, all about attempts
most attempts win, real simple, easy to follow, so far this post season,
100% correct.
But thats just for the play-off games, not for meaningful games.
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After watching the Seahawks and Ravens falter this week, I'm sure we can put to bed this idea of a strong running game as some sort of panacea.
no we cannot.
the chargers ran the ball almost twice as much as the ravens, and WON.
the cowboys ran the ball more than the seahawks and WON.
hat me, hate lombardi, hate the truth;
the team that runs the ball and defends the run will be holding up the trophy at the end of the season.-Lombardi.
When we are wrong you can take his name off the trophy.
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and its still about ATTEMPTS, have you lost sight of reality at this point ?
never said a word about yards, EVER, all about attempts
most attempts win, real simple, easy to follow, so far this post season,
100% correct.
But thats just for the play-off games, not for meaningful games.
Quit being a stupid ****. You realize the only way to get your attempts high is to pick up first downs right? How do you pick up first downs? Get 10 yards in 4 downs. Why are you too stupid or ignorant to notice that the Seahawks and Ravens tried running the ball at an extremely high run tmopass ratio and couldn't do anything. The only way they got into the game was passing the ball. Why are QBs so sought after if it is all about running ATTEMPTS. Quit being stupid and saying this BS. The team that scores the most points wins and that unis usually who runs the most plays or gets the biggest plays and doesn't turn the ball over.
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no we cannot.
the chargers ran the ball almost twice as much as the ravens, and WON.
the cowboys ran the ball more than the seahawks and WON.
hat me, hate lombardi, hate the truth;
the team that runs the ball and defends the run will be holding up the trophy at the end of the season.-Lombardi.
When we are wrong you can take his name off the trophy.
The Seahawks were +5.6% on the year in run/pass ratio--one of only two teams to run more than they passed--and lost to a team that was -4.6%. Baltimore was -0.4% in run/pass ratio (though that number was skewed by the higher passing weeks with Flacco) and lost to a team that was -6.2%. In both of these games, we watched the more run orientated team lose.

Simple statistical analysis does not support your assertions. There was a post on the sadly now defunct Real Football Network sometime back that showed if you removed clock management scenarios (being up or down by 10+ with under 4:00 remaining is the parameter they used to my recollection) the best performing teams tended to be the most balanced, skewing just a couple points either way of the 50/50 ratio.

You're simply barking up the wrong tree here.
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"oriented" is that your arguement ?
when did I say anything about "orientation"
I have been very clear, and my premise is very simple.

The team with the most rush attempts will win the game, any of the play off games.


you dont get extra credit for being " run oriented " going into the play-offs, like the RAVENS, you either run the ball or you dont.
the ravens watched the pass "oriented" chargers out run their ATTEMPTS almost 2 to 1
find some more stats to spin, reality still shows;
most rush attempts wins, 100 % accurate for this years play off teams.
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"oriented" is that your arguement ?
when did I say anything about "orientation"
I have been very clear, and my premise is very simple.

The team with the most rush attempts will win the game, any of the play off games.


you dont get extra credit for being " run oriented " going into the play-offs, like the RAVENS, you either run the ball or you dont.
the ravens watched the pass "oriented" chargers out run their ATTEMPTS almost 2 to 1
find some more stats to spin, reality still shows;
most rush attempts wins, 100 % accurate for this years play off teams.
The problem with your premise is that you don't understand cause and effect. San Diego didn't win the game because they ran the ball more; they ran the ball more because they were winning. Same with Dallas--though to lesser degree--as they were leading most of the game. This really isn't a hard concept to understand.
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please explain why the chargers ran the ball in the first half.
and all the other winning teams who also ran the ball more than their opponents.
My point is simple:
all the hoopla over new millenium passing attacks still does not change the narrative for WINNING !
LOmbardi said it more than 50 years ago and it is still tru TODAY !


lombardi said,
"those who run the ball and stop the run will be holding up the trophy at the end of the season."
reality, check it out.
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please explain why the chargers ran the ball in the first half.



lombardi said,
"those who run the ball and stop the run will be holding up the trophy at the end of the season."
reality, check it out.
Quit being stupid. I know it is hard for you. YOU ARE THE ONE who says it's about attempts not yards. THE REASON THE CHARGERS RAN IT MORE IN THE FIRST HALF is because they PICKED UP FIRST DOWNS WITH YARDS WHICH ALLOWS YOU TO RUN MORE PLAYS! Why do you not understand that? They also passed the ball more than they ran it in the first half. The Ravens ran the ball more than they passed it but since they didn't pick up yards they had little chance to keep calling running plays.
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