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Old 01-27-2018, 08:55 PM   #76
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Whatever option gets Nelson playing guard for us is the one I want.
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Old 01-27-2018, 09:22 PM   #77
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Old 01-27-2018, 11:15 PM   #78
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I really don't think they are going to sign him, and I don't think we are going QB at 5 unless Rosen or Darnold drop. Allen and Mayfield are just not worth that high of a pick.

Look for a QB in the 2nd or 3rd and one of the Viking's guys to end up here. Either way, this is a rebuild and there is no SB contention in our immediate future. I hate the saying, but it is what it is.
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Old 01-28-2018, 01:02 AM   #79
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A lot of misinformation out there right now I have heard that there is very little chance Kirk is signed by Broncos. Just too much money.
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Old 01-28-2018, 01:12 AM   #80
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Old 01-28-2018, 02:12 AM   #81
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Old 01-28-2018, 03:27 AM   #82
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Would be nice if Cousins actually took a little less to play here. I know if I was in the shoes of some of these QBs I'd take less on condition that the team used the saved cap to help the O-Line and **** like that - that said I'd want more guaranteed money for the overall year by year savings.

Give me 5 years $100 million with 60 million guaranteed.
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Would be nice if Cousins actually took a little less to play here. I know if I was in the shoes of some of these QBs I'd take less on condition that the team used the saved cap to help the O-Line and **** like that - that said I'd want more guaranteed money for the overall year by year savings.

Give me 5 years $100 million with 60 million guaranteed.
thats not how this works anymore.
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Old 01-28-2018, 04:49 AM   #84
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thats not how this works anymore.
Why not? Brady makes pennies for what he's worth at his own choice. Manning restructured to take less. Who says Cousins has to get 27 million a year?
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Why not? Brady makes pennies for what he's worth at his own choice. Manning restructured to take less. Who says Cousins has to get 27 million a year?
People who don't want him and want the Bronco's to guess which rookie will be better since history shows Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and Mayfield are not all going to be great pros. Maybe one or two at most, but just as likely none of them.
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I really don't think they are going to sign him, and I don't think we are going QB at 5 unless Rosen or Darnold drop. Allen and Mayfield are just not worth that high of a pick.

Look for a QB in the 2nd or 3rd and one of the Viking's guys to end up here. Either way, this is a rebuild and there is no SB contention in our immediate future. I hate the saying, but it is what it is.
They arent going QB in the 2nd or 3rd, no one good is worth it there.

There's a possibility 6 QB's go in Round 1: Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen, Rudolph and Jackson. Then what's left? Next to nothing.

Only way they dont go QB is if they sign Cousins.
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They didnt really break anything there. Nothing can be said of Kirk unless he hits the market. Until then, it's just speculation.
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Old 01-28-2018, 08:03 AM   #88
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I forsee a hard time signing any free agents with this coaching staff we have. Really, who would want to come to an organization where you have little to no room to grow and gain more skills.
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Yep. Nelson is the best player in the draft regardless of position. He's plug and play for years assuming he stays healthy.

What's the point of drafting another qb if your oline is still garbage?
I remember hearing the same thing when the Cardinals drafted Jonathon Cooper.
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Why not? Brady makes pennies for what he's worth at his own choice. Manning restructured to take less. Who says Cousins has to get 27 million a year?
Well you're talking about two long-time veterans who already made a lot in salary, guarantees, bonuses and endocements. Not to mention Brady is married to someone with more money than him it's not really fair to compare cousins to them. By that rationale every player should take less money because someone else did it once
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They didnt really break anything there. Nothing can be said of Kirk unless he hits the market. Until then, it's just speculation.
Biggest issue I see is Cousins and Trevor Siemian share the same agent and media folks are throwing out that TS camp feels like organization pushed him under the bus a few times the past few years. They mentioned that it could work but that there will be no discounts for Kirk going to Denver where as he might be willing to take a little less going to a few other places.
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I remember hearing the same thing when the Cardinals drafted Jonathon Cooper.
He got hurt and that was that. I don't remember HOF talk with him though.
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Biggest issue I see is Cousins and Trevor Siemian share the same agent and media folks are throwing out that TS camp feels like organization pushed him under the bus a few times the past few years. They mentioned that it could work but that there will be no discounts for Kirk going to Denver where as he might be willing to take a little less going to a few other places.
Siemian is probably gone, he's turnover prone and injury prone. He'll be cut if he's not traded. Cleaning out the trash. It's not really pushing him out the door, just upgrading the QB room.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:32 AM   #94
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Siemian is probably gone, he's turnover prone and injury prone. He'll be cut if he's not traded. Cleaning out the trash. It's not really pushing him out the door, just upgrading the QB room.
I think the point he was trying to make is that Siemian may have poisoned the well a bit. Personally I donít believe any free agents are going to be interested in the Broncos with our horrible coaching staff and idiotic FO. Not unless we offer a lot more than anyone else, or are straight up the only interested team.
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Biggest issue I see is Cousins and Trevor Siemian share the same agent and media folks are throwing out that TS camp feels like organization pushed him under the bus a few times the past few years. They mentioned that it could work but that there will be no discounts for Kirk going to Denver where as he might be willing to take a little less going to a few other places.
You also hear stuff like the organization is ruthless and that has gotten around the league. Making players less likely to sign here.

I think Elway is ruthless but itís to win, he could do that with Manning on the team. Belichick is pretty ruthless too, but he has Brady. I know that spending the cash that will be needed to sign cousins guarantees that Franchise QB. He is an upper tier QB, but is he the kind of guy that you want to make one of the highest paid QBs
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He got hurt and that was that. I don't remember HOF talk with him though.
I remember Cooper was the safest pick in the draft, had HOF potential, the next Randall McDaniel, etc. etc.
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You also hear stuff like the organization is ruthless and that has gotten around the league. Making players less likely to sign here.

I think Elway is ruthless but itís to win, he could do that with Manning on the team. Belichick is pretty ruthless too, but he has Brady. I know that spending the cash that will be needed to sign cousins guarantees that Franchise QB. He is an upper tier QB, but is he the kind of guy that you want to make one of the highest paid QBs
Thatís what I donít get with all this Cousins-to-the-Broncos talk. Do people really expect Elway to break the bank for him? That 100% goes against Elwayís pattern of behavior. I just donít see it.
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Thatís what I donít get with all this Cousins-to-the-Broncos talk. Do people really expect Elway to break the bank for him? That 100% goes against Elwayís pattern of behavior. I just donít see it.
You're right. People forget how ruthless Elway was with Manning that last year when Denver won the superbowl.
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I remember Cooper was the safest pick in the draft, had HOF potential, the next Randall McDaniel, etc. etc.
He got hurt before he even played a game and missed his rookie year and never seemed to recover. If he hadn't gotten hurt, who knows. I do know Garcia needs to be replaced and if the Bronco's want to pound the ball, Nelson is the type of guard you want and who can pass protect. Teams that don't value guards are the same teams that can't run the ball between the tackles and can not covert 3rd and short without having to pass or run a trick play.
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Thatís what I donít get with all this Cousins-to-the-Broncos talk. Do people really expect Elway to break the bank for him? That 100% goes against Elwayís pattern of behavior. I just donít see it.
Probably not but Broncos are desperate for a QB.
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