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Old 01-27-2018, 10:19 AM   #151
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The more I look at Mayfield and what he can do on the football field, the more I think the only reason he isnít a consensus #1 pick is 2 5/8 inches.
That's about what keeps 90% of men from becoming pornstars as well
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Old 01-27-2018, 10:31 AM   #152
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Old 01-27-2018, 09:18 PM   #154
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Wait a minute. This puts a whole new spin on the suggestion that he become a Wide Receiver because that was his only way to be successful being too short..

Hahaha, it makes the whole thread seem gross.
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Tend to agree with you on a lot of but as good as Barkley is,QB is to big a need.
Drafting for need at the #5 pick is stupid. Go BPA or trade down.
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Old 01-27-2018, 09:42 PM   #156
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Drafting for need at the #5 pick is stupid. Go BPA or trade down.
BPA might be a guard
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Old 01-27-2018, 09:48 PM   #157
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BPA might be a guard
That guard is supposed to be a once in a generation type talent. Canít hate on them if they pick him.

Just donít reach on Johnny Mayfield! I suspect they wonít though.
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Drafting for need at the #5 pick is stupid. Go BPA or trade down.
Elway said himself that QB is #1 priority. Rosen,Darnold,Allen or Mayfield will be the BPA at #5. Denver isnít going to pass on a Franchise QB for the sake of BPA.
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If this Bronco's do not have their QB situation figured out before the draft, pretty obvious they go QB at 5 regardless of BPA. But I think this is a last resort since it is doubtful wants a rookie starting next year. If the draft was to be held today, Nelson would likely be the pick. Not only is he seen as a perennial Pro Bowler, but he is perceived by many to be a HOF type of player and he would replace Garcia, who is just too slow.
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Only way they dont take a QB is if they get Cousins. No one else would warrant another pick.

It will be QB at 5 otherwise. Just way too big of a need.
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Old 01-28-2018, 07:08 AM   #161
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Same reasons Wilson wasnt a top 10 pick. He had everything you looked for in a QB but height.
Except Wilson is an elite athlete and Mayfield is average.
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Elway said himself that QB is #1 priority. Rosen,Darnold,Allen or Mayfield will be the BPA at #5. Denver isnít going to pass on a Franchise QB for the sake of BPA.
1. There's a HUGE difference between saying that "QB is #1 priority" and "QB is #1 priority in the draft"

2. There is absolutely no scenario where Allen and Mayfield will be the BPA at #5. "Best QBs available" perhaps. "Best PLAYERS available"? Not even close.
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1. There's a HUGE difference between saying that "QB is #1 priority" and "QB is #1 priority in the draft"

2. There is absolutely no scenario where Allen and Mayfield will be the BPA at #5. "Best QBs available" perhaps. "Best PLAYERS available"? Not even close.
Unless they land Cousins, pretty obvious they're going QB at 5.

Would they be BPA maybe not but QB is too big of a need to pass up on one of Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, or Allen.
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Unless they land Cousins, pretty obvious they're going QB at 5.

Would they be BPA maybe not but QB is too big of a need to pass up on one of Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, or Allen.
I'd say Top 5. I don't believe they'll just stay at 5 and hope for the best.
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I think that this front office has shown that its a LOT easier to maintain a BPA approach when you're winning and have no major holes, in recent years the pressing need in certain areas has skewed our perspective a little perhaps.

However if you need a qb and you think a franchise QB is there then he is BPA, end of story. It such an important position - as we've all seen clearly demonstrated this last year - that it trumps all others. Also the position is the only one outside kicker where you only have space for one starter - so if you have a franchise QB already then even if a QB is BPA when you pick I still don't think you take him.

And I'm also curious, all these people saying Mayfield is garbage, who is it we should be going for? You think there's a slam-dunk sure-fire franchise QB in rounds 2-3 we should target?

Obviously if we go for cousins we're not going QB at #5. But if we get anyone else in free agency then all bets are off....

Picking Qbs is a crapshoot, so I'm getting really annoyed with all these posters writing off one prospect or another without saying why. You may think its obvious to you but any assessment of any draft prospect is always open to significant debate........

I'm a huge believer in Mayfield as I think he has not just the physical tools but the mental makeup and all the intangibles. I could be wrong, but if I'm right he is BPA at #5 no question about it. Plus I don't think he makes it out of the top ten whether we pick him or not.
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I think that this front office has shown that its a LOT easier to maintain a BPA approach when you're winning and have no major holes, in recent years the pressing need in certain areas has skewed our perspective a little perhaps.

However if you need a qb and you think a franchise QB is there then he is BPA, end of story. It such an important position - as we've all seen clearly demonstrated this last year - that it trumps all others. Also the position is the only one outside kicker where you only have space for one starter - so if you have a franchise QB already then even if a QB is BPA when you pick I still don't think you take him.

And I'm also curious, all these people saying Mayfield is garbage, who is it we should be going for? You think there's a slam-dunk sure-fire franchise QB in rounds 2-3 we should target?

Obviously if we go for cousins we're not going QB at #5. But if we get anyone else in free agency then all bets are off....

Picking Qbs is a crapshoot, so I'm getting really annoyed with all these posters writing off one prospect or another without saying why. You may think its obvious to you but any assessment of any draft prospect is always open to significant debate........

I'm a huge believer in Mayfield as I think he has not just the physical tools but the mental makeup and all the intangibles. I could be wrong, but if I'm right he is BPA at #5 no question about it. Plus I don't think he makes it out of the top ten whether we pick him or not.
Iím not a fan of Mayfield but that doesnít mean we wait until round 2 or 3. Josh Rosen,Josh Allen or Darnold can possibly be there at 5.
Fact is Rosen and Darnold better QBs than Mayfield and so is Allen.
Itís gonna take Mayfield a few years to figure out how to play from under center. Mayfield has shown a lot of flash but thatís it.
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Iím not a fan of Mayfield but that doesnít mean we wait until round 2 or 3. Josh Rosen,Josh Allen or Darnold can possibly be there at 5.
Fact is Rosen and Darnold better QBs than Mayfield and so is Allen.
Itís gonna take Mayfield a few years to figure out how to play from under center. Mayfield has shown a lot of flash but thatís it.
Mayfield's a quick learner.

Frankly all these QB's have concerns about them. Most QB's bust, just gotta get lucky and get it right.
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Wrong........heís Orton slow. Slow. Sorry. Watch his tape. Nothing quick here. Slow
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Iím not a fan of Mayfield but that doesnít mean we wait until round 2 or 3. Josh Rosen,Josh Allen or Darnold can possibly be there at 5.
Fact is Rosen and Darnold better QBs than Mayfield and so is Allen.
Itís gonna take Mayfield a few years to figure out how to play from under center. Mayfield has shown a lot of flash but thatís it.
Or what if none of them are? Then you pick BPA and either get Cousins or possibly go down a level and get Keenum? Reaching on QB can get you in a Browns situation quickly.

If I recall Keenum and Cousins had very similar numbers this season. Keenum also has familiarity with the west coast offense style.

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Wrong........heís Orton slow. Slow. Sorry. Watch his tape. Nothing quick here. Slow
Did you actually ever watch Orton play?
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Wrong........heís Orton slow. Slow. Sorry. Watch his tape. Nothing quick here. Slow
I am not a Mayfield fan. But did you actually watch Orton play? He ran with concrete shoes.
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Did you actually ever watch Orton play?
Started watching the Broncos in 1976 when I moved to Colorado. Ram fan prior to that. Remember Roman Gabriel and Sonny Jurgenson. I do. Yep I watched Orton. And I watched a lot of Oklahoma the last two years. I donít care if we draft Mayfield. These guys are all guesses. But: there is nothin fast bout Baker Mayfield.
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There are guys who are deceptively quick, fast. Mayfield is deceptively slow. It’s painful to watch him roll out (which he does every play, because he can’t see over the line.) Maybe not Orton slow, but slow.
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Mayfield sure looked small back there taking snaps during the game. I just don't believe the Broncos would ever take him at 5 even if they still need a QB. It' would be Darnold, Allen, or Rosen before Mayfield and unless the Browns trade the 4th pick, one of those 3 will still be there at 5.
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