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Old 09-24-2017, 09:01 AM   #1
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Default Fatal Officer-Involved Shooting In Huntington Beach Captured By Bystander On Camera:NSFW GRAPHIC

Fatal Officer-Involved Shooting In Huntington Beach Captured By Bystander On Camera
BY TIM LOC IN NEWS ON SEP 22, 2017 1:30 PM


A man has died after he was shot by a Huntington Beach Police officer on Friday morning outside a 7-Eleven.

Angela Bennett, a public information officer with the HBPD, told LAist that the encounter happened at around 9:30 a.m. this morning, outside the 7-Eleven by the corner of Edinger Avenue and Springdale Street. Bennett said that an “altercation occurred” between the officer and the man outside the store.

A bystander captured the shooting on video. It shows the man getting up from the ground, and an officer backing away. Sevens shots are then heard in the video. The man then staggers and falls to the ground. The footage does not show the moments leading up to the shooting.

The video was put up on Twitter (warning: the footage is graphic):


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Old 09-24-2017, 09:03 AM   #2
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This was a murder by cop. No excuse.
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Now it's murder by cop?
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Old 09-24-2017, 09:18 AM   #4
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I can't even watch this. I'm so ****ing tired of seeing it.
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Old 09-24-2017, 09:27 AM   #5
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Another video shows the man punching the cop and grabbing for his gun. He grabbed a clip from his belt. You can still see it in his hand.
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Another video shows the man punching the cop and grabbing for his gun. He grabbed a clip from his belt. You can still see it in his hand.
Where's the video?
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Old 09-24-2017, 10:00 AM   #8
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Don't cops have tasers?
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Don't cops have tasers?
it depends on the locality.
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Old 09-24-2017, 10:41 AM   #10
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Another video shows the man punching the cop and grabbing for his gun. He grabbed a clip from his belt. You can still see it in his hand.
It's impossible to tell what he has in his hand and police have not said what he had according to the news reporter on the scene, so let's not speculate that he had a clip. It's clear at least from the video we have that this guy did initiate a physical confrontation with the cop. Did something else preceded that? We don't know. However it seems equally clear that at the moment they started shooting him, he wasn't taking an aggressive stance and he wasn't close enough to present a threat given the fact that he merely stood up. Was he about to attack again? Who knows? Possibly so, since he already had. But it doesn't matter. Nobody will be prosecuted for this, and probably not charged. It's worth noting I think...and this is my primary point...if a normal citizen were the shooter, the law would ask whether the evidence showed that self defense in the form of deadly force was justified because the victim posed an actual credible threat at that moment. That will not be the standard of proof required here. You can bank on it.
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Having seen the first video, this comes down to poor training. The officer has every opportunity and would be completely justified in putting a couple of rounds into the legs of that suspect. The kid was reasonably stationary, less than 15 feet away and not moving towards the officer. That is a shot every police officer should be able to make.

Putting 7 shots into the suspect, all in the torso is excessive. The officer was clearly justified in using force, but the use of lethal force there was entirely unneeded and just another step towards making law enforcement in the US injust and illegitimate in the eyes of the public.
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This is what happens when you give the government too much power, no matter what your ethnicity.
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Oh yeah, anytime you attack a cop you will get shot.

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He attacked the cop and didn't he take something off of him? Justified.
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Having seen the first video, this comes down to poor training. The officer has every opportunity and would be completely justified in putting a couple of rounds into the legs of that suspect. The kid was reasonably stationary, less than 15 feet away and not moving towards the officer. That is a shot every police officer should be able to make.

Putting 7 shots into the suspect, all in the torso is excessive. The officer was clearly justified in using force, but the use of lethal force there was entirely unneeded and just another step towards making law enforcement in the US injust and illegitimate in the eyes of the public.
sometimes that's hard to do when all that adrenaline is pumping through your veins. and I mean think clearly.
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This was a murder by cop. No excuse.
Sure thing sherlock.

Just another mike brown right?

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Old 09-24-2017, 04:49 PM   #17
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Here's a question: Why didn't the officers ?thede were at least two) just cuff him once they had him on the ground and under control?

Two standards exist in the use of dsadly force, one for ordinary people and one for cops.
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Cop was in the right.
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All these arm chair cops crack me up. That dude attacked the cop and got what you deserve when you fight with the police. The police are afraid of having a suspect get their gun and shoot them with it. If they wait until armchair cops think they are in danger it could be too late. It will be too late.

Don't fight with the police. Once they confront you just get on the ground and pray they don't shoot you.
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Here's a question: Why didn't the officers ?thede were at least two) just cuff him once they had him on the ground and under control?

Two standards exist in the use of dsadly force, one for ordinary people and one for cops.
I don't see two cops in this struggle. How does one cop cuff a person who is actively trying to take your weapon from you? This cop did what he had to do, he backed away from the suspect as the suspect attacked in what looks like him trying to not have to shoot the guy.
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The dude just committed suicide by cop. He was just intentionally feeding on this play.
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I don't see two cops in this struggle. How does one cop cuff a person who is actively trying to take your weapon from you? This cop did what he had to do, he backed away from the suspect as the suspect attacked in what looks like him trying to not have to shoot the guy.
Correct that only one cop was there. At first I thought I saw a second one in the perimeter of the video but it's the first guy circling around the back of a car. I still saw this guy punch the suspect several times while he was on the ground but he then gets up off of him, allowing him to stand up. Why? He shot him when he stood up. What did he think he was going to do after he got up? If he couldn't control him on the ground and he feared he'd get his gun I get that, but the dude wasn't even moving towards him at the time he shot him. He'd just taken multiple punches to the face from a guy who had him on the ground. He didn't rush the cop or even raise a hand towards him. He simply stood up, then he was shot seven times.

I don't see any demonstrated threat at the moment he started firing.

Again...if this was you who fired the shots, you're going down for homocide. Cops have entirely different rules and are almost NEVER convicted and rarely even charged. When they are, juries are constructed that allow them to walk.

Is this really what we want?
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