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Old 04-16-2018, 07:56 AM   #1
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Default RAMBLINGS: is gender psychological? which parts??

the yin and yang of gender psychology: Anima and Animus

LOGOS - masculine, rationale, logic, intellect
EROS - feminine, loving, caring, compassionate

of The Anima and The Animus, the idea is that if either sex consistently works to repress "the dot" portion of their respective yin/yang psychology, that then BOTH of them become part of the "shadow"

the "shadow" then projects itself onto the world to the point where others can no longer see the person

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postmodernist agitprop... basically everywhere (lol and it pisses me off!)

not because i care what other people think but because, in this instance, it deliberately obfuscates insights that virtually EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING would otherwise value

group identity/obedience > consciousness/personal growth
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The shadow and anima/animus are two different complexes.

For example, for men, the shadow always appears as masculine figures in dreams, whereas the anima always appears as female figures.
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Excellent discussion of anima/animus and how each manifests in personal psychology in "The Symbolic Quest" by Jungian analyst Edward Whitmont.

https://press.princeton.edu/titles/864.html
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postmodernist agitprop... basically everywhere (lol and it pisses me off!)

not because i care what other people think but because, in this instance, it deliberately obfuscates insights that virtually EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING would otherwise value

group identity/obedience > consciousness/personal growth
Postmodernist agitprop pisses me off too
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The shadow and anima/animus are two different complexes.

For example, for men, the shadow always appears as masculine figures in dreams, whereas the anima always appears as female figures.
i'm certainly no expert on the subject but i think you might be confusing the jungian shadow with something different?

as per wikipedia:

"Carl Jung stated the shadow to be the unknown dark side of the personality.[4][5] According to Jung, the shadow, in being instinctive and irrational, is prone to psychological projection, in which a perceived personal inferiority is recognized as a perceived moral deficiency in someone else. Jung writes that if these projections remain hidden, "The projection-making factor (the Shadow archetype) then has a free hand and can realize its object—if it has one—or bring about some other situation characteristic of its power."[6] These projections insulate and harm individuals by acting as a constantly thickening veil of illusion between the ego and the real world."
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i'm certainly no expert on the subject but i think you might be confusing the jungian shadow with something different?

as per wikipedia:

"Carl Jung stated the shadow to be the unknown dark side of the personality.[4][5] According to Jung, the shadow, in being instinctive and irrational, is prone to psychological projection, in which a perceived personal inferiority is recognized as a perceived moral deficiency in someone else. Jung writes that if these projections remain hidden, "The projection-making factor (the Shadow archetype) then has a free hand and can realize its object—if it has one—or bring about some other situation characteristic of its power."[6] These projections insulate and harm individuals by acting as a constantly thickening veil of illusion between the ego and the real world."
How am I "confusing" the shadow with something else?

I simply noted that the shadow and the anima were two distinct complexes.

The shadow is the sum total of those psychic contents which have been dissociated or split off from the ego, (which is another complex) whereas the anima is the "contrasexual other." Unlike the shadow, anima is not a complex formed from repressed or dissociated conscious materials. That is to say, anima is a "free standing" or "stand-alone" complex, if you will.
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How am I "confusing" the shadow with something else?

I simply noted that the shadow and the anima were two distinct complexes.

The shadow is the sum total of those psychic contents which have been dissociated or split off from the ego, (which is another complex) whereas the anima is the "contrasexual other." Unlike the shadow, anima is not a complex formed from repressed or dissociated conscious materials. That is to say, anima is a "free standing" or "stand-alone" complex, if you will.
sorry i'm just still not sure what it is you were trying to say exactly?

you said "different" earlier and not "distinct" and there is implication in either direction... hence my reply

we all know what a complex is... and it's not so much a semantics argument over what is a complex by simpler definitions. in this particular case, the only "complex" per se that is relevant to jung's point would be the resulting anima/animus possession due to projection
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sorry i'm just still not sure what it is you were trying to say exactly?
That it's inaccurate to say the anima "becomes part of the shadow" if it isn't integrated.
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That it's inaccurate to say the anima "becomes part of the shadow" if it isn't integrated.
so... given that few (if any) users on the manes wrp even know who carl jung is to begin with let alone anima/animus possession... you felt that it was particularly important to delineate the summary intro in terms that, tho not otherwise technically incorrect, gave short thrift to digressive aspects of the "shadow" u gave greater preference to, personally, for whatever reason? lol instead of this petty nonsense could u not just have said as much outright?? AND WHY WOULDN'T YOU??

lol sorry for the "colorful" verbiage but you all too often put me in an unfair position to defend against seemingly simple intrusions
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from my perspective.... (lol and given our history!) which would be more rational for me to assume:

a) LA was simply raising his hand out of honest intrigue in that he too (or she) knew a thing or two about carl jung

or B) LA was looking for "cheap entertainment," ran a quick google search, and falsified his (or her) input under a false pretense...

i'm fairly convinced the input was not genuine... but i'll also admit to bias in that assumption
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super clever...

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Old 04-18-2018, 02:19 AM   #15
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After an attempt to parse the all-lower-case word salad he just posted, I have to concur.
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small-dicked (and sexually confused) betas licking each others wounds...

lol there's just something about it that seems faintly romantic yes?

EDIT:

p.s. lol ironicalyl, the thread was about repression/projection

in lieu of spreading himself (herself?) all over the known universe, at least gaff largely limits himself to his own special area of expertise (lol pathologically speaking)

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small-dicked (and sexually confused) betas licking each others wounds...

lol there's just something about it that seems faintly romantic yes?

EDIT:

p.s. lol ironicalyl, the thread was about repression/projection

in lieu of spreading himself (herself?) all over the known universe, at least gaff largely limits himself to his own special area of expertise (lol pathologically speaking)
L0L.

Johnson measuring so soon?

"Loser" lost his composure rather quickly here.

I wonder what qualifies "Loser" as an expert in either analytical psychology or Jung?

In any case, what we've learned from this thread, and from this post, in particular:

"Loser" is most definitely a candidate for psychoanalysis.
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L0L.

Johnson measuring so soon?

"Loser" lost his composure rather quickly here.

I wonder what qualifies "Loser" as an expert in either analytical psychology or Jung?

In any case, what we've learned from this thread, and from this post, in particular:

"Loser" is most definitely a candidate for psychoanalysis.
small detail: you'll now notice (lol because you apparently didn't) i deliberately used the words "i'm certainly no expert"

i posed an idea... (ironically, about insecurity/projection )

lol then you tried to barge in like the childish belligerent you are to create an argument that doesn't exist...

congrats

lol only thing this threads now missing is two to three pages of memes
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small detail: you'll now notice (lol because you apparently didn't) i deliberately used the words "i'm certainly no expert"

i posed an idea... (ironically, about insecurity/projection )

lol then you tried to barge in like the childish belligerent you are to create an argument that doesn't exist...

congrats

lol only thing this threads now missing is two to three pages of memes
You implied that analytical psych and/or Jung were not areas of expertise of mine.

Obviously, you reckon yourself some sort of expert insofar as you consider yourself qualified to make that assessment.

In any event, I initially made an effort to contribute to your "discussion," but your political baggage was obviously an insurmountable obstacle for you. #childish #belligerent
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You implied that analytical psych and/or Jung were not areas of expertise of mine.

Obviously, you reckon yourself some sort of expert insofar as you consider yourself qualified to make that assessment.

In any event, I initially made an effort to contribute to your "discussion," but your political baggage was obviously an insurmountable obstacle for you. #childish #belligerent
lol jesus fkn christ...

i could go on about the irony for god knows how long... tho you're actually starting to make me feel bad at this point

last words yours deary... enjoy
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lol jesus fkn christ...

i could go on about the irony for god knows how long... tho you're actually starting to make me feel bad at this point

last words yours deary... enjoy
Your non-denial and non-rebuttal white flag is duly noted.
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