Mike Shanahan - The Orange Mane

Garcia Bronco · 12-02-2013, 01:22 PM

Has the game passed him by? Firstly, I generally never trust someone that would hire their own kid. It wreaks of bad decision making, but there are exceptions to the that. I think Shanahan has coached his last season or maybe second to last season as a head coach in the NFL. What do you think? And does it tarnish his standing as a head coach in the NFL?

DENVERDUI55 · 12-02-2013, 01:27 PM

Yes game has passed him by if he has to pick staff, players, draft etc. I think he can still gameplan and call plays just fine.

Garcia Bronco · 12-02-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Yes game has passed him by if he has to pick staff, players, draft etc. I think he can still gameplan and call plays just fine.

Yeah...they jumped on the Giants yesterday, but there didn't seem like a big adjustment was made later in the game.

Mountain Bronco · 12-02-2013, 01:35 PM

I don't know what has happened with Shanahan, but man how times have changed. My theory is that he is to much of an ego maniac and surrounds himself with Yes Men. He did it in Denver and now again in Washington. The talent got him over the hump in Denver, but he doesn't have as much in Washington and has a newbie QB versus on of the GOAT's finishing his career. That alone is a big difference.

That said, overcoming Snyder and the hole Washington was in before he got there is a tough spot, not to mention the salary cap restriction they have. Isn't going to get any easier next year though as they don't have their first round pick and have a big contract for Orakpo if they want to keep him.

randerson1184 · 12-02-2013, 01:37 PM

I agree that he's a great offensive coach, can gameplan well and call plays very well. I think he would be much more successful as an offensive coordinator. I don't see him voluntarily demoting though. I'm sure he'll hold out for a HC position if Washington gives him the boot.

broncocalijohn · 12-02-2013, 01:45 PM

In before Rev, SoCal and Cito Pelon have their rebuttal.

TonyR · 12-02-2013, 01:45 PM

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Mike Shanahan, Redskins
He is 3-8 going into Sunday night’s game against the Giants and 24-35 in his fourth year in Washington. His five-year $35 million contract is up in 2014. His owner is Dan Snyder, who has had six coaches since he bought the team in 1999. After winning the NFC East last season, Shanahan made a horrendous decision not pulling an injured Robert Griffin III from the playoff loss to the Seahawks. Maybe he really can’t win without John Elway. Joe Gibbs came out of retirement to coach four years for Snyder. He was 31-36 before retiring again despite Snyder begging him to stay. I think there’s a good chance Snyder asks Shanahan to leave.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...#ixzz2mMA5TI11

bpc · 12-02-2013, 01:52 PM

Unfortunately he's always been a homer for his guys. It pains me saying that as I like Mike a lot. The fact that I still see Bob Slowik stalking the sidelines for the Redskins tells me that Mike has never learned his lesson.

Inkana7 · 12-02-2013, 01:52 PM

All that needs to be said:

Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan expects Bob Slowik to make a smooth transition from defensive backs coach to linebackers coach and believes the 18-year veteran can help bolster Washington’s deepest position.

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...71NQ_blog.html

The Joker · 12-02-2013, 01:58 PM

He's still a tremendous gameplanner and no matter what he'll ultimately be considered a great HC. Winning two Superbowls puts him in some extremely exclusive company.

As for the future, I'm not sure. I think he may be done, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him build another contender.

TonyR · 12-02-2013, 01:59 PM

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ll-week-13-nfl

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And the scary thing for Washington fans is that it's going to probably get worse before it gets better. The cap penalties for the uncapped shenanigans come off the books after this year, but Washington will have to take that space and apply it to a new deal for Brian Orakpo, with contract extensions for Griffin, Alfred Morris, and Ryan Kerrigan lurking in the near future. It will probably fire the Shanaclan after this disappointing campaign, which means that it'll have to go through the transition to a new coaching staff and, possibly, a new scheme.

spiralism · 12-02-2013, 02:02 PM

If Washington lose out and Houston win one more game (they have Jags and Titans left on the board to name two) Washington will have the #1 overall pick....which would go to St.Louis as part of the RGIII trade.

Yeah, he's ****ed.

Br0nc0Buster · 12-02-2013, 02:07 PM

I guess this place needed more drama surely you are aware of the ****storm you are about to create starting this thread right?

Those who defend Shanny will do so without reason or regard to what is actually happening in the present time

I think Shanny is a good coach and great offensive mind but his stubbornness is going to continue to sink that team

He still seems to be making the same mistakes in DC as he was when he was here

Ratboy · 12-02-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spiralism

If Washington lose out and Houston win one more game (they have Jags and Titans left on the board to name two) Washington will have the #1 overall pick....which would go to St.Louis as part of the RGIII trade.

Yeah, he's ****ed.

Wow...

Br0nc0Buster · 12-02-2013, 02:09 PM

BTW I think they still beat the Chiefs this Sunday

2KBack · 12-02-2013, 02:13 PM

Shanahan is 48-60 since the dream team of him and Kubiak broke up. Sometimes you are just better as a duo.

Kaylore · 12-02-2013, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkana7

All that needs to be said:

Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan expects Bob Slowik to make a smooth transition from defensive backs coach to linebackers coach and believes the 18-year veteran can help bolster Washington’s deepest position.

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...71NQ_blog.html

Yeah I hate that guy. He's basically a talent-less hack that Shanahan keeps around because he's too kind of a person. Honestly, nepotism and poor GM'ing abilities killed his career.

I agree with what was said that on game-day and as a game planner, there are very very few better than Shanahan. For one game there probably isn't a single coach I'd rather have calling a game than Mike Shanahan. He'll always be in my heart for some of the best games of my life as a Bronco fan.

crush17 · 12-02-2013, 02:23 PM

You guys are asking for a **** storm when SoCal and Rev see this thread.

Predict 10+ pages at least.

rolandftw · 12-02-2013, 02:29 PM

The RG3 trade kinda backfired on them. It's hard to give up 4 draft picks for 1 draft pick, unless you hit gold on the pick.

Kaylore · 12-02-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crush17

You guys are asking for a **** storm when SoCal and Rev see this thread.

Predict 10+ pages at least.

Yeah. SoCal sent me a rep that if Kubiak and Shanahan are fired we should fire our staff and hire them immediately.

cmhargrove · 12-02-2013, 02:36 PM

IMO - RGIII might be his undoing. The team is definitely committed to RGIII, and he isn't exactly seeing eye to eye with Shanny. I'm not convinced that is all Shanahan's fault (because I personally see RGIII as a bit of a prima donna), but there it is. Disharmony, dysfunction, disappointment.

I'm just glad this soap opera isn't unfolding in Denver this offseason.

broncocalijohn · 12-02-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

Shanahan is 48-60 since the dream team of him and Kubiak broke up. Sometimes you are just better as a duo.

Shanny agrees. That is why he teamed up with Slowick.

BTW, when people mentioned this the last few weeks, I thought they were just ****ing with Shanny. I cannot believe he brought him in to Denver let alone bring him in to Wash DC. He has sucked in GB, Denver and now it will be DC.

SoCalBronco · 12-02-2013, 02:59 PM

Shanny still has it. His offense was prolific last year so there's no such thing as the game has passed him by. The real problem is he is having to coach with a 36m cap penalty which makes it hard to field a team.

DENVERDUI55 · 12-02-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Shanny agrees. That is why he teamed up with Slowick.

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They are college besties and it is to the doom of shanny. Slowdick was awful in Green Bay and Chicago before Shanny brought him on.

broncocalijohn · 12-02-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Shanny still has it. His offense was prolific last year so there's no such thing as the game has passed him by. The real problem is he is having to coach with a 36m cap penalty which makes it hard to field a team.

Repeat and wash. I think there is more to it then the cap penalty.

Can you even defend Slowick?

Here is the turbo start of a 10 pager.

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12-02-2013, 01:22 PM	#1
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 52,374 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Mike Shanahan Has the game passed him by? Firstly, I generally never trust someone that would hire their own kid. It wreaks of bad decision making, but there are exceptions to the that. I think Shanahan has coached his last season or maybe second to last season as a head coach in the NFL. What do you think? And does it tarnish his standing as a head coach in the NFL?

12-02-2013, 01:27 PM	#2
DENVERDUI55 Gambling is a SIN^^^^^^ New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 13,962 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Yes game has passed him by if he has to pick staff, players, draft etc. I think he can still gameplan and call plays just fine.

12-02-2013, 01:35 PM	#4
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 2,034	I don't know what has happened with Shanahan, but man how times have changed. My theory is that he is to much of an ego maniac and surrounds himself with Yes Men. He did it in Denver and now again in Washington. The talent got him over the hump in Denver, but he doesn't have as much in Washington and has a newbie QB versus on of the GOAT's finishing his career. That alone is a big difference. That said, overcoming Snyder and the hole Washington was in before he got there is a tough spot, not to mention the salary cap restriction they have. Isn't going to get any easier next year though as they don't have their first round pick and have a big contract for Orakpo if they want to keep him.

12-02-2013, 01:37 PM	#5
randerson1184 Camp Arm 2015 Super Bowl Champions! Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: MS Gulf Coast Posts: 992 Adopt-a-Bronco: DeMarcus Ware	I agree that he's a great offensive coach, can gameplan well and call plays very well. I think he would be much more successful as an offensive coordinator. I don't see him voluntarily demoting though. I'm sure he'll hold out for a HC position if Washington gives him the boot.

12-02-2013, 01:45 PM	#6
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings I said Do It! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 32,164 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	In before Rev, SoCal and Cito Pelon have their rebuttal.

12-02-2013, 01:52 PM	#8
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 17,102 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brendan Langley	Unfortunately he's always been a homer for his guys. It pains me saying that as I like Mike a lot. The fact that I still see Bob Slowik stalking the sidelines for the Redskins tells me that Mike has never learned his lesson.

12-02-2013, 01:52 PM	#9
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,004 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bradley Roby	All that needs to be said: Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan expects Bob Slowik to make a smooth transition from defensive backs coach to linebackers coach and believes the 18-year veteran can help bolster Washington’s deepest position. Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...71NQ_blog.html

12-02-2013, 01:58 PM	#10
The Joker Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,748 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	He's still a tremendous gameplanner and no matter what he'll ultimately be considered a great HC. Winning two Superbowls puts him in some extremely exclusive company. As for the future, I'm not sure. I think he may be done, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him build another contender.

12-02-2013, 02:02 PM	#12
spiralism Facta Non Verba Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 1,267	If Washington lose out and Houston win one more game (they have Jags and Titans left on the board to name two) Washington will have the #1 overall pick....which would go to St.Louis as part of the RGIII trade. Yeah, he's ****ed.

12-02-2013, 02:07 PM	#13
Br0nc0Buster You honeydicking? Super Bowl 50 Champs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 7,423	I guess this place needed more drama surely you are aware of the ****storm you are about to create starting this thread right? Those who defend Shanny will do so without reason or regard to what is actually happening in the present time I think Shanny is a good coach and great offensive mind but his stubbornness is going to continue to sink that team He still seems to be making the same mistakes in DC as he was when he was here

12-02-2013, 02:09 PM	#15
Br0nc0Buster You honeydicking? Super Bowl 50 Champs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 7,423	BTW I think they still beat the Chiefs this Sunday

12-02-2013, 02:13 PM	#16
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 10,642	Shanahan is 48-60 since the dream team of him and Kubiak broke up. Sometimes you are just better as a duo.

12-02-2013, 02:23 PM	#18
crush17 "Born A Broncos Fan" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 7,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rick Upchurch	You guys are asking for a **** storm when SoCal and Rev see this thread. Predict 10+ pages at least.

12-02-2013, 02:29 PM	#19
rolandftw Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,612 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The RG3 trade kinda backfired on them. It's hard to give up 4 draft picks for 1 draft pick, unless you hit gold on the pick.

12-02-2013, 02:36 PM	#21
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 7,489 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	IMO - RGIII might be his undoing. The team is definitely committed to RGIII, and he isn't exactly seeing eye to eye with Shanny. I'm not convinced that is all Shanahan's fault (because I personally see RGIII as a bit of a prima donna), but there it is. Disharmony, dysfunction, disappointment. I'm just glad this soap opera isn't unfolding in Denver this offseason.