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Old 02-16-2018, 03:27 PM   #76
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:36 PM   #77
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CHI gave up 3, 67, 111, and a 3rd this year. To move up 1! spot. I am talking about how much it takes to move up. It will cost more. And future picks are usually later picks. Teams will want high picks and they will want them this year. Its not like INDY doesn't know what your trying to do.
If you check the trade value chart, that's exactly what it should cost to move from #3 to #2.
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:43 PM   #78
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In today's NFL every thing and any thing is possible.

Some how Brock played for the Broncos in 2017 for like 650K.
Brock was traded for a 2nd round pick and the Browns have a ton of cap space. The Texans ate the contract because the coach would no longer play him.
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:46 PM   #79
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If you check the trade value chart, that's exactly what it should cost to move from #3 to #2.
AND THEY GOT RAPED.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:10 PM   #80
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Is this kind of like Sophie’s Choice?
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Old 02-16-2018, 07:02 PM   #81
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AND THEY GOT RAPED.
The draft equivalent of a 3rd and two 4ths is not getting raped, especially if it's for a franchise QB. For the Broncos, that's Brendan Langley, Max Garcia, and Devontae Booker. Literally, throw away players for a franchise QB. Who cares.
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The draft equivalent of a 3rd and two 4ths is not getting raped, especially if it's for a franchise QB. For the Broncos, that's Brendan Langley, Max Garcia, and Devontae Booker. Literally, throw away players for a franchise QB. Who cares.



It was 2 3rds, all high in the rounds. But it doesnít matter cause every draft is different. This draft has multiple teams insanely desperate for QBs, and are willing to overpay for them. Only 2 are day 1 ready. People think a couple of 3rds and a 4th will be all it takes? Wrong. Another team will give up more.
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It was 2 3rds, all high in the rounds. But it doesnít matter cause every draft is different. This draft has multiple teams insanely desperate for QBs, and are willing to overpay for them. Only 2 are day 1 ready. People think a couple of 3rds and a 4th will be all it takes? Wrong. Another team will give up more.
3rd round selection in 2018 is equivalent to a 4th round selection in 2017.

#2 overall = 2600 points

#3 overall = 2200 points
#67 overall = 255 points
#111 overall = 72 points
2018 Bears 3rd rounder - about 92 points (in 2017)
Total = 2619 points

So Bears got "raped" for the equivalent of a mid-6th round pick. So what. And they got a guy in Trubisky who is probably better than any QB prospect in this draft.
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3rd round selection in 2018 is equivalent to a 4th round selection in 2017.

#2 overall = 2600 points

#3 overall = 2200 points
#67 overall = 255 points
#111 overall = 72 points
2018 Bears 3rd rounder - about 92 points (in 2017)
Total = 2619 points

So Bears got "raped" for the equivalent of a mid-6th round pick. So what. And they got a guy in Trubisky who is probably better than any QB prospect in this draft.


Pretty sure to youíve never seen Rosen throw a pass.
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Pretty sure to youíve never seen Rosen throw a pass.
Not sure about the off-field stuff. As a fan, I'm leary after Paxton Lynch. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Scary to hear that his teammates don't like him.
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This is the chart based on data on the actaul production of each draft slot over like a 10 year period?
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Not sure about the off-field stuff. As a fan, I'm leary after Paxton Lynch. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Scary to hear that his teammates don't like him.



Real GMs wonít let rumors sway their decisions. Iíll believe the players over the media.

https://dailybruin.com/2018/01/10/wa...-affect-draft/



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It was 2 3rds, all high in the rounds. But it doesnít matter cause every draft is different. This draft has multiple teams insanely desperate for QBs, and are willing to overpay for them. Only 2 are day 1 ready. People think a couple of 3rds and a 4th will be all it takes? Wrong. Another team will give up more.
Sanity in a post. You don't give up all those picks to get Trubinsky. And you don't do it to move up one spot. Idiotic. He would have been there if they just stayed put. This year it will be even worse.
The only QBs worth moving up for are the LA QBs. And that will bankrupt an entire draft.
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Sanity in a post. You don't give up all those picks to get Trubinsky. And you don't do it to move up one spot. Idiotic. He would have been there if they just stayed put. This year it will be even worse.
The only QBs worth moving up for are the LA QBs. And that will bankrupt an entire draft.


Yep the only 2 day 1s. Rosen has durability issues and Darnold need to refine some of his game but both can improve a team instantly. How much a team is willing to trade up for IMO makes no difference as Browns and Giants will use 1 and 2.

For the now we gotta believe a good FA will come.
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Old 02-16-2018, 09:06 PM   #90
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Real GMs wonít let rumors sway their decisions. Iíll believe the players over the media.

https://dailybruin.com/2018/01/10/wa...-affect-draft/


Douche is fine. I am more concerned with his injury history than his personality at this point. And I would take him over all except Darnold.
Marino had an off the field attitude and is a well known wife cheater.
Kelly was a drunk, who consistently bad mouthed the city of Buffalo.
Favre was a drunk and a Vicodin abuser and a known wife cheater.
Rivers is a nutjob. He could be on Ron Burgandys news team. He's the single biggest $h!t talker in the league and was looked at as a malcontent when he 1st came into the league. He held out his rookie year. Wanted more coin.
Big Ben is a rapist.
All their fans defend them vehemently and would take a bullet for them.

If Rosens biggest issue is he says some liberal crap once in awhile, I'll take it as long as he wins games. I don't see him getting DUI's or getting caught with an 8 ball and hookers.
And the guy is ready to play today. Right now. Day 1 starter. No more stupid, offseason try outs and competitions and idiotic rants by posters claiming this is the year for Paxil!!!
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https://dailybruin.com/2018/01/10/wa...-affect-draft/


Did none of his teammates go to his Bday party? Maybe the Browns pass on him because of this then convince some other team to give up a boatload to trade up for him.

Anyone else getting deja-vu?
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Did none of his teammates go to his Bday party? Maybe the Browns pass on him because of this then convince some other team to give up a boatload to trade up for him.

Anyone else getting deja-vu?
Somebody went to the party...
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Don't know where the off-field drama around him is coming from, but it sounds like it's coming from scout circles. So I'll believe them this time. Wasn't informed enough on Paxton Lynch and got burned. I'm a Darnold guy myself.
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Somebody went to the party...
What position does she play? TE? Probably his favorite target.
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What position does she play? TE? Probably his favorite target.
What hillarious is she's an AZ ST student. So there's been some $h!t talk going back and forth from the fans and students.
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Don't know where the off-field drama around him is coming from, but it sounds like it's coming from scout circles. So I'll believe them this time. Wasn't informed enough on Paxton Lynch and got burned. I'm a Darnold guy myself.



A lot of these same scouts are saying Rosen is the best QB in this draft. Thereís issues with every QB in this draft. Darnold is a good choice too, I canít knock ya for that.


But Lynch had terrible footwork and never ran anything that resembled an nfl play. He was a 3 year project labeled by these scouts. Pure pocket passer was never in his reports. Fact is if Lynch had these traits and showed them no one would care about his dumb dancing or goofy persona. Lynch couldnít even open a playbook without ripping it. Rosenís football IQ is lights out better.
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Sanity in a post. You don't give up all those picks to get Trubinsky. And you don't do it to move up one spot. Idiotic. He would have been there if they just stayed put. This year it will be even worse.
The only QBs worth moving up for are the LA QBs. And that will bankrupt an entire draft.
The fairy tale you live in....
You meant to say bankrupt an entire franchise. Both of those qbs are trash
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3rd round selection in 2018 is equivalent to a 4th round selection in 2017.

#2 overall = 2600 points

#3 overall = 2200 points
#67 overall = 255 points
#111 overall = 72 points
2018 Bears 3rd rounder - about 92 points (in 2017)
Total = 2619 points

So Bears got "raped" for the equivalent of a mid-6th round pick. So what. And they got a guy in Trubisky who is probably better than any QB prospect in this draft.
Trubisky wasn't even the best QB prospect in his own class and he for damn sure wouldn't be top 5 in this one.
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Cousins, Rosen, or Darnold please. No more half measures. This franchise and the fans deserve better.
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