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Old 03-21-2016, 01:54 PM   #17001
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I might take a shot at Nelson or Johnson and Fairley on one year deals.....

Broncos have only three Ss on the roster.....
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:55 PM   #17002
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He is and then some. Having his disciplinary powers taken has been the best news that has come out the past week.
Company line, company bullshyt.....
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:57 PM   #17003
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So you feel Goodell has done a bang job with disciplinary issues the last 3 seasons?
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:16 PM   #17004
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So you feel Goodell has done a bang job with disciplinary issues the last 3 seasons?
You have issues with reading comprehension, don't you?
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:34 PM   #17005
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Im no pats fan, and i think they get away with a lot of shady ****, but you cant really punish someone without real proof and the deflate gate "proof" is flimsy at best. I think there's something there, but honestly the punishment doesnt even fit the crime. I dont think deflated balls really have any effect.
Horrible post. We got nailed for deferring salary payment to Elway and Davis and lost I believe a 3rd rounder. That had no effect on wins and losses but it broke rules. Brady actually deflated balls to give a game advantage so losing a draft pick higher than a 3rd is very in line with the penalty. Destroying some of the biggest evidence fits in with Brady being suspended. If anything, first round is light if Brady gets off.
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:39 PM   #17006
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Lots of those guys can and will still play.

Some of them are most likely told to wait until after the draft to get a better contract - or even during TC.
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:43 PM   #17007
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Horrible post. We got nailed for deferring salary payment to Elway and Davis and lost I believe a 3rd rounder. That had no effect on wins and losses but it broke rules. Brady actually deflated balls to give a game advantage so losing a draft pick higher than a 3rd is very in line with the penalty. Destroying some of the biggest evidence fits in with Brady being suspended. If anything, first round is light if Brady gets off.
If thats what's decided then I agree... and I think there's definitely something up, but from what I gather, the Wells report didn't shed light on much.

But i stand by that I think deflating balls isn't a big deal. I think this suspension/fine has lots more to do with their history... and fair enough on that.
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Horrible post. We got nailed for deferring salary payment to Elway and Davis and lost I believe a 3rd rounder. That had no effect on wins and losses but it broke rules. Brady actually deflated balls to give a game advantage so losing a draft pick higher than a 3rd is very in line with the penalty. Destroying some of the biggest evidence fits in with Brady being suspended. If anything, first round is light if Brady gets off.
Only on planet Denver is messing with cap < unproven air pressure in a football. Not to mention Denver admitted to the violation which happened not once but twice and the Pats were victims of one shoddiest "investigations" in the history of pro sports filled with lies, lies and more lies .... but whatever floats your boat.
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Only on planet Denver is messing with cap < unproven air pressure in a football. Not to mention Denver admitted to the violation which happened not once but twice and the Pats were victims of one shoddiest "investigations" in the history of pro sports filled with lies, lies and more lies .... but whatever floats your boat.
But messing with the cap didnt give us a competitive advantage, so don't be disingenious about it.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:03 PM   #17010
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Only on planet Denver is messing with cap < unproven air pressure in a football. Not to mention Denver admitted to the violation which happened not once but twice and the Pats were victims of one shoddiest "investigations" in the history of pro sports filled with lies, lies and more lies .... but whatever floats your boat.
That's because on planet Denver we are smart enough to read. Elway took a deferment on payment that had nothing to do with the cap. His cap hit was the same, it did not free up any money for more players and therefore did not confer competitive advantage the team simply wanted to keep a little more liquidity during a stadium rebuild.
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But messing with the cap didnt give us a competitive advantage, so don't be disingenious about it.
Denver didn't mess with the cap, they deferred Elway's payment, which isn't allowed, and nobody realized. They didn't add any more room to their cap allowance. In other words, it wasn't the cap they got into trouble for, it was writing an IOU
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But messing with the cap didnt give us a competitive advantage, so don't be disingenious about it.
Oh stop. How hypocritical can you be? If there was no advantage then there would have been no third round pick. Isn't that why you tell Pats fans?? So while you can belly ache that you do not believe there was an advantage, the league obviously did. And this really makes you no different than Pats fans except we were royally screwed TWICE by a commissioner who is an absolute boob. Once for camera location and then a made up violation on AIR BALL pressure as some type of make up call because the boob commish destroyed the tapes.
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Oh stop. How hypocritical can you be? If there was no advantage then there would have been no third round pick. Isn't that why you tell Pats fans?? So while you can belly ache that you do not believe there was an advantage, the league obviously did. And this really makes you no different than Pats fans except we were royally screwed TWICE by a commissioner who is an absolute boob. Once for camera location and then a made up violation on AIR BALL pressure as some type of make up call because the boob commish destroyed the tapes.
The third round pick was for writing an IOU which was against the CBA. It was a rules infraction, but not one that gained a competitive edge. You're making yourself look stupid by not understanding this.
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Oh stop. How hypocritical can you be? If there was no advantage then there would have been no third round pick. Isn't that why you tell Pats fans?? So while you can belly ache that you do not believe there was an advantage, the league obviously did. And this really makes you no different than Pats fans except we were royally screwed TWICE by a commissioner who is an absolute boob. Once for camera location and then a made up violation on AIR BALL pressure as some type of make up call because the boob commish destroyed the tapes.
I was the one defending deflategate, you supreme a-hole. I said the punishment didn't fit the crime.

And read up on the Broncos huge salary cap infraction. You'll see its not the biggest deal in the world.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:22 PM   #17015
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I was the one defending deflategate, you supreme a-hole. I said the punishment didn't fit the crime.

And read up on the Broncos huge salary cap infraction. You'll see its not the biggest deal in the world.
I have not read through the jist of this thread so my apologies for previous posts of yours.

I don't disagree about Denver getting unfairly punished but it was a real infraction that was admitted too under a different and more reasonable commish. GoodHell has been a joke a half and not just related to Pats stuff.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:42 PM   #17016
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Patriots fans will argue ad nauseum about the minutiae of how their actual cheating of filming and deflating footballs had little direct consequence of the game, yet hysterically they are totally uninterested in hearing the details of the cap penalty issue on the Broncos. Suddenly they turn to the same arguments that they've railed against as overly-simplistic.

The money saved was used for the stadium. That alone should put this to bed. The reason it came to a head at all was Al Davis, who was pissed off he didn't get a new stadium too. Incidentally they still don't have one.

But to entertain the argument the pick being docked speaks to competitive advantage, the third round pick that Denver lost was added back as a compensatory pick that same year - this despite Denver not losing major free agents the year before. The Rocky Mountain News ran an article about how the league was hiding behind the "formula" for comp picks, and Al Davis knew it and again threw a fit seeing what happened. The league basically told greasy Al to go **** himself about it. The bottom line is the money was deferred for a stadium. Denver had their draft pick lowered about 13 spots, and since almost everyone will tell you Mile High was harder to play in than the new stadium, Denver lost competitive advantage with the Stadium.

But Patriots fans will keep their fingers in the ears and screaming "LALALALA! DON'T CARE! BRONCOS CHEATED LALALALALA!"

It doesn't matter. Only Patriots and Chief fans care. Two of the most insecure fanbases in the NFL.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:49 PM   #17017
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Oh stop. How hypocritical can you be? If there was no advantage then there would have been no third round pick. Isn't that why you tell Pats fans?? So while you can belly ache that you do not believe there was an advantage, the league obviously did. And this really makes you no different than Pats fans except we were royally screwed TWICE by a commissioner who is an absolute boob. Once for camera location and then a made up violation on AIR BALL pressure as some type of make up call because the boob commish destroyed the tapes.


You cant be this dumb, seriously?
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Fun fact: we won the Super Bowl and still have a higher draft pick than the patriots. Hehe
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Old 03-21-2016, 04:07 PM   #17019
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Fun fact: we won the Super Bowl and still have a higher draft pick than the patriots. Hehe
And your QB is Butt Fumble.
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And your QB is Butt Fumble.
I would rather have Tim freaking tebow as my qb than have my draft picks taken for the 2nd time in less than a decade because of religious cheating.

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And your QB is Butt Fumble.
Yes we have Butt Fumble... and a First Round pick!
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Yes we have Butt Fumble... and a First Round pick!
I will take the GOAT QB and two seconds over Butt Fumble and three number ones. But to each his own ...
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Old 03-21-2016, 05:19 PM   #17023
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a 39 yr old QB, and no pick until the 60's.
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And your QB is Butt Fumble.
1- Butt Fumble beat Brady in the playoffs.

2- We went 2-0 with just as bad QB play vs the "GOAT" this past year.

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