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Old 05-14-2018, 09:13 AM   #1
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Finally getting with the times on this. Each state will have the choice and it will probably take a few years but this is progress.
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Las Vegas isn't going to like that, and right after the Raiders decide to move there.
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Las Vegas isn't going to like that, and right after the Raiders decide to move there.
No it opens up there market online. Helps them battle the offshore books that are taking a ton of their business. You can already bet online with the Vegas books from within the state of NV. Now they have business in every state that will allow it.
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No it opens up there market online. Helps them battle the offshore books that are taking a ton of their business. You can already bet online with the Vegas books from within the state of NV. Now they have business in every state that will allow it.
And why is that good?
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And why is that good?
Your customer market just went up by who knows how many thousands or millions.
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Your customer market just went up by who knows how many thousands or millions.
Only in states that accept the idea of Las Vegas as a middleman. I really doubt most states will accept that idea.
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Only in states that accept the idea of Las Vegas as a middleman. I really doubt most states will accept that idea.
Las Vegas isn't the sports book. It is William Hill, MGM resorts, etc. The books are run by separate companies that will have no problem already opening up in other states. Besides nobody goes to Vegas just to gamble on sports. You can gamble offshore from anywhere.
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It shouldnít have been a law to begin with. It was all a scam to protect LV, as far Iím concerned.
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It shouldnít have been a law to begin with. It was all a scam to protect LV, as far Iím concerned.
I can see the old rationale behind it. Small time venue betting on small time sports is definitely an avenue for corruption.

But in modern times, if someone wants to go so far as to cheat in competition, getting a straw bet down to Vegas isn't quite the hurdle it used to be.
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I can see the old rationale behind it. Small time venue betting on small time sports is definitely an avenue for corruption.

But in modern times, if someone wants to go so far as to cheat in competition, getting a straw bet down to Vegas isn't quite the hurdle it used to be.
Yes, the laws are always in the name of anti-corruption, but we all know that it is a sham because there is always corruption in the sport even where there is no legal betting in a given state. IE, there is an excellent 30 for 30 on the huge betting scandal in Boston College basketball in the early 80ís.

The Mob there approached a couple of the starters to make sure the team either lost by a certain amount of points or won by a certain amount of points. The players were paid, but eventually it ran out of control, and the FBI got involved and brought it down. As a side note, it was revealed that in the investigation, the FBI, totally by fluke, received a tip that eventually brought down a completely separate Mob venture that Martin Scorsese based his movie Goodfellas on.

Anyway, I canít remember the name of the doc, but I think it was a 30 for 30, and I think Netflix still has it in thier streaming service. Highly recommend. I just think that we need to face reality on these issues, and legalize them and put a special excise tax on them with 100% of that money going to real anti-corruption.
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Las Vegas isn't the sports book. It is William Hill, MGM resorts, etc. The books are run by separate companies that will have no problem already opening up in other states. Besides nobody goes to Vegas just to gamble on sports. You can gamble offshore from anywhere.
Yes, I agree, but it is the Indian Casinos in a state that will be the first to get in the action, as they should.
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Yes, the laws are always in the name of anti-corruption, but we all know that it is a sham because there is always corruption in the sport even where there is no legal betting in a given state. IE, there is an excellent 30 for 30 on the huge betting scandal in Boston College basketball in the early 80ís.

The Mob there approached a couple of the starters to make sure the team either lost by a certain amount of points or won by a certain amount of points. The players were paid, but eventually it ran out of control, and the FBI got involved and brought it down. As a side note, it was revealed that in the investigation, the FBI, totally by fluke, received a tip that eventually brought down a completely separate Mob venture that Martin Scorsese based his movie Goodfellas on.

Anyway, I canít remember the name of the doc, but I think it was a 30 for 30, and I think Netflix still has it in thier streaming service. Highly recommend. I just think that we need to face reality on these issues, and legalize them and put a special excise tax on them with 100% of that money going to real anti-corruption.
Yeah, it was always a potential problem. I think communications tech has just rendered any preventative impact of the old law pretty ineffectual. I think in the pre-internet age, a court would've been much more hesitant to strike this kind of regulation down.
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Las Vegas isn't the sports book. It is William Hill, MGM resorts, etc. The books are run by separate companies that will have no problem already opening up in other states. Besides nobody goes to Vegas just to gamble on sports. You can gamble offshore from anywhere.
The guys that are already playing offshore will go to those legalized books. Casual bettors who want to give it a try will stay with the fanduels and draft kings of the world once they offer individual game betting.
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Betting will ruin sports. Look at boxing.
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Betting will ruin sports. Look at boxing.
It is already a billion dollar business in the USA and the bet on games in Europe. I think you guys just make statements without actually realize what is going on. Where I come from its called pissing in the wind.

Gambling didn't ruin boxing other sports did to be honest. If you are a great athlete why would you box? Only a couple guys make any money.
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I'm not in favor of gambling as a personal matter, but I'm even less in favor of an all-powerful state attempting to parent me with force of arms.
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PPV ruined boxing.
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The guys that are already playing offshore will go to those legalized books. Casual bettors who want to give it a try will stay with the fanduels and draft kings of the world once they offer individual game betting.
I'm not exactly sure this decision would enable sites like draft kings to start a regular sports book.
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All this does is return power to the states to regulate it.

States still have to decide whether or or not to allow gambling and can still set whatever fees for licensing that they want. Betting it won't be cheap in most states to get into the sports book game.
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I'm not exactly sure this decision would enable sites like draft kings to start a regular sports book.
Umm....go ahead and Google "fanduel+draftkings+legalized+sports+betting"

They have been licking their chops over today's decision.
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It is already a billion dollar business in the USA and the bet on games in Europe. I think you guys just make statements without actually realize what is going on. Where I come from its called pissing in the wind.

Gambling didn't ruin boxing other sports did to be honest. If you are a great athlete why would you box? Only a couple guys make any money.
When I grew up I watched Ali box...this was before pay preview, Don King, etc.

This is always the slippery slope argument. People do it anyways, so letís just turn it loose.

Bill Cosby agrees with you.
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All this does is return power to the states to regulate it.

States still have to decide whether or or not to allow gambling and can still set whatever fees for licensing that they want. Betting it won't be cheap in most states to get into the sports book game.
I live in Utah.

Will there be more online betting? No, I haven't read all the articles.
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When I grew up I watched Ali box...this was before pay preview, Don King, etc.

This is always the slippery slope argument. People do it anyways, so letís just turn it loose.

Bill Cosby agrees with you.
You're reinforcing beavis' point...Not disputing dui's.

The PPV money grab by different promoters and agencies ruined boxing. Ringside bookies have existed since dudes were bare knuckling fresh off the boat. Gambling had nothing to do with it.
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I have spent some time in the Bahamas at the Atlantas High Stakes sports betting room, you can live bet on almost every sporting event going on world wide. I think itís kind of dull entertainment, there is certainly more exciting action on casino main floor.
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