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Old 02-19-2018, 01:25 PM   #1
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Default Five offseason moves to improve each AFC West team

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1. Cut Aqib Talib and C.J. Anderson.
2. Go after Kirk Cousins.
3. Add a tight end.
4. Lock up Matt Paradis and Bradley Roby.
5. Pick up Shane Ray's fifth-year option.

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Old 02-19-2018, 01:25 PM   #2
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There's no way to make a Cousins deal cheap, but here's how the Broncos could frame a six-year, $180 million deal with a $40 million signing bonus and an even $100 million payable over the first three years, all of which would be practically guaranteed: ...
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:48 PM   #3
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Stockpile more picks in 2nd and 3rd round and pray we learn to draft well.
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Cutting Talib doesn't improve us, even if we add Cousins.
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Old 02-19-2018, 01:59 PM   #5
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Cutting Talib doesn't improve us, even if we add Cousins.
agree and if we lose Harris or Roby to injury YIKES it gets ugly fast.
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1. Sign Nate Solder
2. Pick your choice of QB Darnold/Allen/Mayfield
3. Draft Michel/RoJo II
4. Profit??
5. Get a real HC
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Old 02-19-2018, 02:01 PM   #7
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1. Sign Nate Solder
2. Pick your choice of QB Darnold/Allen/Mayfield
3. Draft Michel/RoJo II
4. Profit??
5. Get a real HC


Too bad FO doesn't agree with us.
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Cutting Talib doesn't improve us, even if we add Cousins.
I don't want to lose Talib either. But to sign Cousins they're going to have to get rid of some salaries. And unfortunately I think the writing is on the wall that Talib's is one they will consider. At his age, at that position, the cliff is near. The Pats moved on from him 5 seasons ago and they've managed pretty well since then.
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Trading Talib for cousins is such a terrible idea.

One is a HOF at his position - the other can’t even make the pro bowl.
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Old 02-19-2018, 05:40 PM   #10
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I don't want to lose Talib either. But to sign Cousins they're going to have to get rid of some salaries. And unfortunately I think the writing is on the wall that Talib's is one they will consider. At his age, at that position, the cliff is near. The Pats moved on from him 5 seasons ago and they've managed pretty well since then.
By giving his salary to Revis and Gilmore since then.
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There's no way to make a Cousins deal cheap, but here's how the Broncos could frame a six-year, $180 million deal with a $40 million signing bonus and an even $100 million payable over the first three years, all of which would be practically guaranteed: ...
L...Lu...Lun...ah damn, better not say that word.
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Too bad FO doesn't agree with us.
Damm!!! Didn't realize I missed free agency and the draft.
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Damm!!! Didn't realize I missed free agency and the draft.
We drafted Bolles, signed Menelik Frickin Watson and we have Trevor Siemian, Paxton Lynch, Brock Osweiler and Kyle Slo....my bad.
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We drafted Bolles, signed Menelik Frickin Watson and we have Trevor Siemian, Paxton Lynch, Brock Osweiler and Kyle Slo....my bad.
Send Watson packing asap.
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Send Watson packing asap.
The man proposed to his girlfriend on live TV. You can't be cutting him all willy nilly. It's a feel good story man.
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L...Lu...Lun...ah damn, better not say that word.
No you'd actually be correct in using lunacy in this scenario. Kirk cousins is an above average qb. With the right pieces in place (strong ol, rb, strong def) he would get you to playoffs, possibly win a game or 2. I personally don't believe he's a sb winner, but if everything fell in line might happen. The cost associated with his acquisition and the loss of key players would leave the team void of talent and proper depth. The ROI would imo not be worth the expense to acquire him at this $.
Not to mention jets are said to have a full hard on for him and fully guaranteed contract. Wouldn't touch that with Bolwen's pocketbook
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The Jets are basically gong to offer Cousins a huge totally guaranteed contract.... let him go. The difference between Cousins and Keenum is not that great.
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agree and if we lose Harris or Roby to injury YIKES it gets ugly fast.
Might have to use the 5th pick on Fitzpatrick who would give the broncos a FS/CB that can match up 1-1 with TE and play on outside if needed.
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Weak article. Cutting Talib and Anderson does not make the team better. It only creates cap space. Regardless of the cap space, cutting Talib makes the defense much more vulnerable, not better. Locking players up and exercising an option doesn’t make the team any better either...it just keeps the status quo.
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I don't want to lose Talib either. But to sign Cousins they're going to have to get rid of some salaries. And unfortunately I think the writing is on the wall that Talib's is one they will consider. At his age, at that position, the cliff is near. The Pats moved on from him 5 seasons ago and they've managed pretty well since then.
Yes, but the Pats move on from everyone pretty well...

I'm not going to worry too much if we do jettison Talib, I'm not privy to all the deals we're trying to do - such as we might want to lock up Roby before he's a starter and commanding starting money, or who else we're trying to sign.
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Weak article. Cutting Talib and Anderson does not make the team better. It only creates cap space. Regardless of the cap space, cutting Talib makes the defense much more vulnerable, not better. Locking players up and exercising an option doesn’t make the team any better either...it just keeps the status quo.
If we can't get rid of Talib and move on it's once again an indictment of the FO. They've drafted a few DB's over the last few years, at least one of whom should be ready to step in. That's the goal in this league, to have younger, cheaper guys come in and replace 32 year olds who make a lot of money. If you're not doing that regularly, you're not going to be a contending team for very long.

As for CJ, he's an average, overpaid RB who any competent FO can easily replace. Again, the question is whether or not our FO can do it. Drafting the likes of Ball, Hillman and Booker doesn't help much.
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Ray hasn't earned the fifth year option.
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Ray hasn't earned the fifth year option.
Primarily due to the injury though. People forget how good he was in 2016.


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2015 overall grade: 45.8

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With veteran edge defender DeMarcus Ware laboring through injury and primarily playing as a situational rusher even when healthy, it was left to Ray to provide a strong complement to Von Miller. His jump from a rookie grade of 45.8 in 2015 to 77.1 in 2016 was evidence of his improved pass-rush skills that saw him record 45 total QB pressures, almost double the 25 he notched as a rookie, and ranking him 10th in pass-rushing productivity among 3-4 outside linebackers.
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Weak article. Cutting Talib and Anderson does not make the team better. It only creates cap space. Regardless of the cap space, cutting Talib makes the defense much more vulnerable, not better. Locking players up and exercising an option doesn’t make the team any better either...it just keeps the status quo.
I thought the same thing
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If we can't get rid of Talib and move on it's once again an indictment of the FO. They've drafted a few DB's over the last few years, at least one of whom should be ready to step in. That's the goal in this league, to have younger, cheaper guys come in and replace 32 year olds who make a lot of money. If you're not doing that regularly, you're not going to be a contending team for very long.

As for CJ, he's an average, overpaid RB who any competent FO can easily replace. Again, the question is whether or not our FO can do it. Drafting the likes of Ball, Hillman and Booker doesn't help much.
Yeah, there has to be some teams out there that need a top CB on a reasonable contract. We *should* be able to get good value for him (if we want to move on), and if we don't that's a big knock on Elway and the FO.
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