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Old 10-11-2018, 10:36 AM   #26
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https://www.bbc.com/news/36998747

Iranian nuclear scientist Shahram Amiri executed for treason

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Iran Scientist Returns to Tehran

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Mr. Amiri has been in the U.S. "of his own free will," traveled to the embassy on his own, and was free to leave the country.

Until Tuesday, U.S. officials hadn't publicly acknowledged his presence in the country. Officials briefed on Mr. Amiri's stay in the U.S. said he passed on useful information on Iran's nuclear program to American intelligence agencies. Mr. Amiri couldn't be reached to comment.

An Iranian familiar with the case said Iranian authorities had threatened to harm Mr. Amiri's family if he didn't return home. "His family has been under tremendous pressure, they even threatened to kill his son. He had no choice but to play the script the regime has given him and return to Iran," the Iranian said.
At least having an asset taken from us and eventually executed didn't impact anyone's good time playing "Let's Make An Iranian Deal."

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Old 10-11-2018, 11:12 AM   #27
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The leaders of Saudi Arabia and Russia also happen to be strong Trump allies
Trump Has a Saudi Arabia Problem

When the cat is away, as they say, the mice will play. Given the "America First" program of Donald Trump, which involves other nations (supposedly) doing more to keep the world safe, and the United States doing less, it is to be expected that some of the world's bad actors will take the opportunity to infringe on American sovereignty. This appears to be what happened in the case of Jamal Khashoggi, whose disappearance has been major news across the world for the last two days.

Khashoggi is a former member of the Saudi (state-run) media who left the country in 2017, and was granted residency in the United States. From his new home in Virginia, he became an outspoken critic of the Saudi government, and of Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman in particular (also, for that matter, of Donald Trump). Khashoggi has served as a columnist for the Washington Post for the last year, and has also written for or appeared on other media outlets. Seeking to be married to a Turkish woman, he visited the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to acquire some necessary documents. He has not been seen since. The Saudis claim Khashoggi left the embassy shortly after arriving, and that they have no idea as to his current whereabouts, but the Turkish government says he was killed while inside, possibly after an attempt to kidnap him and spirit him back to Saudi Arabia went south.

Assuming that the Turkish government has the right of it, Donald Trump has quite a mess on his hands. There is, first of all, the general problem of allowing other nations to commit evil acts without recrimination, which sets a bad precedent and sends a problematic message to the Syrias and North Koreas of the world. There is also the specific problem of allowing a foreign government to lure a resident of the United States into a trap and to kill him. If that is indeed what happened, the voting public and the Congress are not going to be happy. Even Sen. Lindsey Graham, who may be Trump's staunchest ally in the Senate, and who badly wants to be AG, declared that "there would be hell to pay" if the Saudis did indeed kill Khashoggi.

The difficulty for Trump is that he really, really does not want to confront the Saudis, much less sanction them or otherwise punish them for their deeds. Among the reasons he does not want to do this:
  • Saudi Arabia is the linchpin of the administration's Middle East strategy (such as it is). In particular, Team Trump is counting on them to keep the pressure on Iran, to help fight ISIS in Syria, and to twist the arms of the Palestinians.
  • The nation is also significant to his economic program, as negotiating the sales of billions of dollars in arms to the Kingdom of Saud was one of his (very) few achievements in economic diplomacy. It's true that the deal was already in place before Trump became president, and so is not really his to claim, but it's also true that regardless of who really deserves credit, the President wants to keep Saudi money flowing into the U.S. economy.
  • On a more personal level, Saudi Arabia is one of the very few nations where Trump is more popular than Barack Obama was. And that, of course, is very important to the President.
  • Also on a personal level, Trump and his son-in-law have extensive business interests in the Middle East, and hope to have more once this whole presidency thing is over. In fact, Kushner regularly speaks to the Crown Prince on the phone about...well, nobody knows, because Kushner often does not use an official state department phone line, which means nobody is taking notes on his conversations.
  • Trump just doesn't do confrontation, in general. Sending Chief of Staff John Kelly to fire some cabinet secretary or other underling is viable, but Kelly can't really be dispatched to go read the riot act to the leaders of Saudi Arabia.

In view of these concerns (some might call them conflicts of interest), Trump is currently taking something of a "sweep it under the rug" approach. When pressed by reporters about Khashoggi's disappearance, the President said, "I am concerned about it. I don't like hearing about it. And hopefully that will sort itself out." The careful reader will notice that statement is just a tad less forceful than what Trump has said recently about the Federal Reserve Bank, Christine Blasey Ford, or kneeling football players. Perhaps all three are bigger threats to the U.S. than the autocrats who run the Saudi government. Anyhow, this situation is well on its way to becoming yet another major headache for Trump, on top of all the others he already has. (Z)
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:19 AM   #28
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When pressed by reporters about Khashoggi's disappearance, the President said, "I am concerned about it. I don't like hearing about it. And hopefully that will sort itself out." The careful reader will notice that statement is just a tad less forceful than what Trump has said recently about the Federal Reserve Bank, Christine Blasey Ford, or kneeling football players.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:20 AM   #29
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People honestly believe it's only 1 administration whoring around with Saudi Arabia?

Obama administration arms sales offers to Saudi top $115 billion: report

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama’s administration has offered Saudi Arabia more than $115 billion in weapons, other military equipment and training, the most of any U.S. administration in the 71-year U.S.-Saudi alliance, a report seen by Reuters has found.


Foundation Ties Bedevil Hillary Clinton’s Presidential Campaign

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Saudi Arabia has been a particularly generous benefactor. The kingdom gave between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:25 AM   #31
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People honestly believe it's only 1 administration whoring around with Saudi Arabia?
I would hope nobody believes that. But you have to admit that a U.S. resident being lured to Saudi Arabia and killed is not a good look.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:51 AM   #32
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The Saudi's control more 'family money' than any other on the planet. They bribe everyone. Oil and cash, that's their currency, policy and only asset of worth.

Party? Who gives a rat's. It's the country. Both parties need to start remembering that detail.

It's going to become important again soon.
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Sad but true.
He'd be called irresponsible if he was all bluster and no bite as well.

I certainly hope we have a serious response behind the scenes. But the clamoring for something significant to play out in the press is to clamor for something that generally never happens.
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:26 PM   #34
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The Saudi's control more 'family money' than any other on the planet. They bribe everyone. Oil and cash, that's their currency, policy and only asset of worth.

Party? Who gives a rat's. It's the country. Both parties need to start remembering that detail.

It's going to become important again soon.
They'll remember when they're shoveling that bribe money to their pockets.
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They'll remember when they're shoveling that bribe money to their pockets.
They'll remember if the house flips and Mueller's reports aren't buried, Trumps tax returns miraculously appear and the Nunes activities spotlighted.

Somewhere in there is Saudi financing that will be tied directly to Trump and his cronies, and then the bloodbath begins for both sides.

Neither side will come out of the wash 'clean.' But it's laws broken that will decide the outcome.
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But it's laws broken that will decide the outcome.
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They'll remember if the house flips and Mueller's reports aren't buried, Trumps tax returns miraculously appear and the Nunes activities spotlighted.

Somewhere in there is Saudi financing that will be tied directly to Trump and his cronies, and then the bloodbath begins for both sides.

Neither side will come out of the wash 'clean.' But it's laws broken that will decide the outcome.
Nah, it'll just keep happening like it always has.
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Not at all sure about anything that comes out of DC.
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Nah, it'll just keep happening like it always has.
Revenge is a strong motivator.

Let's see if the Dems can be as ruthless as the Repubs.

One thing is certain, the way the SCOTUS is stacked, citizens, will not be overturned, so the financial corruption will stay in the system.
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