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Old 08-19-2017, 02:51 PM   #776
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Spicoli will always look for the one person who does something stupid and say "see? Both sides! Derp...derp..."

Like a good little tRump parrot.
He is no libertarian
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:20 PM   #778
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He is no libertarian
He's a nationalist and incredibly fearful of everyone who doesn't look like him.

He's poor wee naif LINO bong boy.
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:22 PM   #779
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More reason to take anything Shane Spicoli posts with a large grain of salt...

Antifa Member Photographed Beating Police Officer?

False. The protester’s jacket in the original image was blank. The antifa logo was digitally added to this image, which was then reshared as if it depicted a recent incident in an attempt to show that “both sides” contributed to the violence in Charlottesville:

http://www.snopes.com/antifa-member-...olice-officer/
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Old 08-19-2017, 03:25 PM   #780
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He is no libertarian
He most certainly is not.

Who he really is couldn't be more obvious...

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Old 08-19-2017, 03:28 PM   #781
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the commish literally goes on tv and says the protesters threw piss on the police.

I post this.

Response. "He isnt a libertarian"


bahahahahahaha so far over the edge.


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Old 08-19-2017, 03:30 PM   #782
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the commish literally goes on tv and says the protesters threw piss on the police.

I post this.

Response. "He isnt a libertarian"


bahahahahahaha so far over the edge.
Well, gee, Spicoli, that settles it:

Movements to protest Nazis are just as bad as the Nazis themselves.
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:10 AM   #783
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Isn't schadenfreude delicious?



7 more scheduled organizations cancel Mar-a-Lago galas after #Charlottesville—costing Trump bigly

David Farhenthold, a Pulitzer-winning investigative reporter at The Washington Post, tweeted out a list of “Galas Coming Back To Mar-a-Lago” showing seven…
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Old 08-20-2017, 01:39 PM   #784
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Nearly 300 of Mnuchin's College Classmates Urge Him to Resign

The letter, says Mnuchin has a "moral obligation" to resign from his role in the president's cabinet.

"We, some of your fellow members of the Yale College Class of 1985, write to you today in response to President Trump’s comments on the recent events in Charlottesville. We believe it is your moral obligation to resign your post as Secretary of the Treasury, effective immediately," the letter reads.

"We understand that graduates of Yale College have served the United States proudly as presidents, members of the cabinet, and in many other capacities since its founding, and that rarely, if ever, have any of us made such a request of a classmate, whatever our differences in political opinion have been."

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Old 08-20-2017, 03:18 PM   #785
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Old 08-20-2017, 03:52 PM   #786
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He is no libertarian
He's this guy:

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Old 08-21-2017, 06:18 AM   #787
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"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just,” Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1781. The American revolution still raged, many of his own slaves had escaped, his beloved Virginia teetered on social and political chaos. Jefferson, who had crafted the Declaration of Independence for this fledgling nation at war with the world’s strongest empire, felt deeply worried about whether his new country could survive with slavery, much less the war against Britain. Slavery was a system, said Jefferson, “daily exercised in tyranny,” with slaveholders practicing “unremitting despotism,” and the slaves a “degrading submission.”

The founder was hopeless and hopeful. He admitted that slaveholding rendered his own class depraved “despots,” and destroyed the “amor patriae” of their bondsmen. But his fear was universal. “Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God?” This advocate of the natural rights tradition, and confounding contradictory genius, ended his rumination with the vague entreaty that his countrymen “be contented to hope” that a “mollifying” of the conditions of slaves and a new “spirit” from the revolution would in the “order of events” save his country.

For that republic to survive it took far more than hope and a faith in progress. Indeed, it did not survive; in roughly four score years it tore itself asunder over the issue of racial slavery, as well as over fateful contradictions in its constitution. The American disunion of 1861-65, the emancipation of 4 million slaves, and the reimagining of the second republic that resulted form the pivot of American history. The civil war sits like the giant sleeping dragon of American history ever ready to rise up when we do not expect it and strike us with unbearable fire. It has happened here – existential civil war, fought with unspeakable death and suffering for fundamentally different visions of the future.

Republics are ever unsteady and at risk, as our first and second founders well understood. Americans love to believe their history is blessed and exceptional, the story of a people with creeds born of the Enlightenment that will govern the worst of human nature and inspire our “better angels” to hold us together. Sometimes they do. But this most diverse nation in the world is still an experiment, and we are once again in a political condition that has made us ask if we are on the verge of some kind of new civil conflict.

In one of his earliest speeches, the Young Men’s Lyceum address, in 1838, Abraham Lincoln worried about politicians’ unbridled ambition, about mob violence, and about the “perpetuation of our political institutions”. The abolitionist Elijah Lovejoy had just been murdered by a mob the previous year in Illinois. Lincoln saw an “ill omen” across the land due to the slavery question. He felt a deep sense of responsibility inherited from the “fathers” of the revolution. How to preserve and renew “the edifice of liberty and equal rights,” he declared, provided the challenge of his generation. “At what point shall we expect the approach of danger?” Lincoln asked. “By what means shall we fortify against it?” His worries made him turn inward. “Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined … could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.” Lincoln did not fear foreign enemies. If “danger” would “ever reach us,” he said, “it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”
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By the time of the sectionalized and polarized election of 1860, conducted in a climate of violence and danger caused by John Brown’s raid on Harper’s Ferry in 1859, north and south had developed broad-based mutual conspiracy theories of each other. They did so through a thriving and highly partisan press, in both daily and weekly newspapers. Both sides tended to have their own sets of facts and their own conceptions of both history and the constitution.

White southerners feared and loathed abolitionists, and now they faced anti-slavery politicians who could truly affect power and legislation if elected. By the 1860 election, pro-slavery interests had developed a widespread theory about a “black Republican” conspiracy in the north, determined on taking hold of all reins of government to put slavery, as Lincoln in 1858 had actually said, on a “course of ultimate extinction.” In the secession crisis, one southern leader after another pronounced against what they perceived as an abolitionist conspiracy against their livelihoods and their lives. William Harris, the secession commissioner for Mississippi, claimed in December, 1860 that Republicans “now demand equality between the white and negro races, under our constitution; equality in representation, equality in the right of suffrage … equality in the social circle, equality in the rights of matrimony.” He concluded therefore, the deep south faced a stark choice: “Sink or swim, live or die, survive or perish, the part of Mississippi is chosen, she will never submit to the principles and policy of this black Republican administration.”
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Sheer chaos.
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Trump won't make it another 6 months. This is careening out of control at a dizzying pace. He's gleefully alienating necessary Republican senators in an inevitable impeachment proceeding. He is already well underwater in key rust belt states. And that's before the economy starts cooling down. His approval is in the mid 30s with a good economy. September will be ugly in the markets especially if there is a shutdown. It's true some of his hardcore supporters will always be there but it won't take much to go down to the high 20s and once there with midterms around the corner, there will be growing danger from Capitol Hill with everyone trying to save themselves.

It is not clear when it will end, but between all these issues plus the special counsel's office populated with big time sharks, it will almost certainly end badly for the President and many of his closest allies.

I'll give it 6 months or less
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Trump won't make it another 6 months. This is careening out of control at a dizzying pace. He's gleefully alienating necessary Republican senators in an inevitable impeachment proceeding. He is already well underwater in key rust belt states. And that's before the economy starts cooling down. His approval is in the mid 30s with a good economy. September will be ugly in the markets especially if there is a shutdown. It's true some of his hardcore supporters will always be there but it won't take much to go down to the high 20s and once there with midterms around the corner, there will be growing danger from Capitol Hill with everyone trying to save themselves.

It is not clear when it will end, but between all these issues plus the special counsel's office populated with big time sharks, it will almost certainly end badly for the President and many of his closest allies.

I'll give it 6 months or less
When he's gotten into trouble before, he's always bailed (bankruptcy). He'll bail again. And then he'll call himself, "The Greatest President Ever!"
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Trump won't make it another 6 months. This is careening out of control at a dizzying pace. He's gleefully alienating necessary Republican senators in an inevitable impeachment proceeding. He is already well underwater in key rust belt states. And that's before the economy starts cooling down. His approval is in the mid 30s with a good economy. September will be ugly in the markets especially if there is a shutdown. It's true some of his hardcore supporters will always be there but it won't take much to go down to the high 20s and once there with midterms around the corner, there will be growing danger from Capitol Hill with everyone trying to save themselves.

It is not clear when it will end, but between all these issues plus the special counsel's office populated with big time sharks, it will almost certainly end badly for the President and many of his closest allies.

I'll give it 6 months or less
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This will break the hearts of some OMers...

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People of Phoenix want Trump to know "he is not welcome and that we will never pardon white supremacy!"



Massive Protests Planned in Phoenix to Condemn Trump Agenda and Racist Rhetoric

Organizers want president to know "he is not welcome and that we will never pardon white supremacy!"
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