The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Jibba Jabba > War, Religion and Politics Thread
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read





Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-16-2018, 04:36 PM   #1
Paladin
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,694
Default Cohen

Putting together shreded docs. Getting 700 pages of text off cell phones. And more to boot.

Do you think Cohen will be eating dinner with Manafort and the cockroaches soon? Maybe Rudy Ghouliani will join them for cognac and cigars.
Paladin is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 06-16-2018, 05:25 PM   #2
Agamemnon
Ring of Famer
 
Agamemnon's Avatar
 
Elway needs to go to AA.

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 35,259

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Phillip Lindsay
Default

The pardons will come in soon most likely. And the Trumpkins will cheer.
Agamemnon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 02:06 AM   #3
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
 
L.A. BRONCOS FAN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location
Posts: 86,534
Default

Pardons for what? I thought the whole investigation was a "witch hunt" and the charges were all "fake news?"
L.A. BRONCOS FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 08:09 AM   #4
Jason in LA
Gimmie that rep fool!
 
Jason in LA's Avatar
 
Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: LA
Posts: 18,788
Default

Pardoning Cohen is supposed to be "political suicide," but it seems like Trump can get away with anything. He believes it because it's really true. So he'll probably pardon Cohen, everybody will go nuts and start talking about impeachment, and then nothing will happen.
Jason in LA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 08:19 AM   #5
Paladin
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,694
Default

Then the NY AG gets her shot....

And Dotard Don and his "lawyer" can share quarters at Attica. What a nightmare for Cohen....
Paladin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 10:04 AM   #6
swaiy
Ring of Famer
 
swaiy's Avatar
 
New to the Forum

Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 256
Posts: 2,809

Adopt-a-Bronco:
D. Henderson
Default

Should take a page from Putin's playbook and make him "go away."
swaiy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 10:51 AM   #7
Agamemnon
Ring of Famer
 
Agamemnon's Avatar
 
Elway needs to go to AA.

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 35,259

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Phillip Lindsay
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason in LA View Post
Pardoning Cohen is supposed to be "political suicide," but it seems like Trump can get away with anything. He believes it because it's really true. So he'll probably pardon Cohen, everybody will go nuts and start talking about impeachment, and then nothing will happen.
Trump has made committing political suicide a hobby. Nothing he does, no matter how vile, ever leads to meaningful repercussions. Our government has completely lost its way at this point, and he's the one driving it off a cliff.
Agamemnon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2018, 10:59 AM   #8
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
 
L.A. BRONCOS FAN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location
Posts: 86,534
Default

Don Capone has taken Republicans hostage, but independents and moderates are fleeing, as evidenced by so many special election results throughout the country...

The Fortunate (for Democrats) Cult of Trump

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/...-cult-of-trump
L.A. BRONCOS FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2018, 07:23 AM   #9
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
 
L.A. BRONCOS FAN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location
Posts: 86,534
Default

Good news!


Judge: Majority of Cohen’s seized documents will be handed over to feds
L.A. BRONCOS FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2018, 02:59 PM   #10
Guess Who
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,099
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason in LA View Post
Pardoning Cohen is supposed to be "political suicide," but it seems like Trump can get away with anything. He believes it because it's really true. So he'll probably pardon Cohen, everybody will go nuts and start talking about impeachment, and then nothing will happen.
this
Guess Who is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2018, 03:01 PM   #11
Guess Who
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,099
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason in LA View Post
Pardoning Cohen is supposed to be "political suicide," but it seems like Trump can get away with anything. He believes it because it's really true. So he'll probably pardon Cohen, everybody will go nuts and start talking about impeachment, and then nothing will happen.
If he is pardoned, he will then be compelled to tell the truth when interviewed as he can no longer plead the 5th amendment. If he goes in and lies after he was pardoned well that is a separate crime. So by pardoning him Trump could be setting Cohen up to go into court and just tell everything.
Guess Who is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2018, 01:57 PM   #12
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
 
L.A. BRONCOS FAN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location
Posts: 86,534
Default

Michael Cohen's new attorney says his client has made a "declaration of independence" from Donald Trump and no longer would take a bullet for the president in any investigation.

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/396...rnd=1531260453
L.A. BRONCOS FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2018, 02:50 PM   #13
BroncoBeavis
Ring of Famer
 
BroncoBeavis's Avatar
 
Meh. Anyone can.

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 33,325

Adopt-a-Bronco:
None
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guess Who View Post
If he is pardoned, he will then be compelled to tell the truth when interviewed as he can no longer plead the 5th amendment. If he goes in and lies after he was pardoned well that is a separate crime. So by pardoning him Trump could be setting Cohen up to go into court and just tell everything.
Why? I hear you can even land immunity deals and still plead the 5th these days.
BroncoBeavis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2018, 03:00 PM   #14
Rohirrim
Partisan
 
Rohirrim's Avatar
 
And so it goes...

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Trumpville (like Potterville, but stupider)
Posts: 79,465

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Phillip Lindsay
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Agamemnon View Post
The pardons will come in soon most likely. And the Trumpkins will cheer.
And America will be "greater" and Jesus will descend from the clouds and bless Trump, the First King of America!
Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2018, 04:55 PM   #15
Guess Who
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,099
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
Why? I hear you can even land immunity deals and still plead the 5th these days.
ahhh, don't think that is possible. If you cannot be persecuted for a crime you cannot plead the 5th.
Guess Who is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2018, 05:07 PM   #16
Paladin
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,694
Default

Persecuted?
Paladin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2018, 01:48 AM   #17
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
 
L.A. BRONCOS FAN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location
Posts: 86,534
Default

But his emails...


Emails Show President’s Personal Attorney Was Selling Access To The Presidency



Senate Democrats have accused Michael Cohen of "selling access" to the White House after obtaining new emails.
President Donald Trump’s former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, had a more extensive relationship with pharmaceutical giant Novartis than previously realized, according to emails between the drug company and Cohen’s consulting firm, Essential Consultants LLC.

Via ABC News:
In a report released by Senate Democrats on Friday morning blasting Cohen for “selling access” to the White House, senate investigators revealed that they have obtained dozens of emails between Cohen and former Novartis CEO Joseph Jimenez. These communications, shared exclusively with ABC News, shed new light on the services Cohen provided through Essential Consultants LLC, a shell company he formed shortly before Election Day.
It was revealed earlier this year that Novartis signed a $1.2 million contract with Cohen for insight into the Trump administration on pharmaceutical related issues. The company said it was immediately apparent that Cohen could not provide the assistance he claimed, but Novartis was stuck paying the full contracted fee.

But prior to terminating their contact with Cohen, a handful of communications took place:
Democrats say Cohen appeared to discuss drug pricing proposals with Jimenez after meetings between the administration and the pharmaceutical industry. In another, he appeared to encourage Novartis to consider investing in a pharmaceutical company tied to a firm linked to a Russian billionaire that Cohen also represented.

“What he was selling was a line of access to the Trump administration,” said Sen. Ron Wyden, one of the Democrats who released the report, a copy of which can be read below. “That would be how I would characterize it."
The communications also reveal that, over several months, Cohen and Jimenez discussed significant issues such as federal drug pricing policy:
In June 2017, Jimenez, replying to a request from Cohen, sent an email containing a six-point plan for the Trump administration entitled “Drug Pricing Cost Initiatives. In their response to the senators, Novartis said Cohen told Jimenez at the time that a "friend with experience in the pharmaceutical industry" was preparing ideas for a discussion with Trump administration officials.

Cohen responded that “the information you provided was a great beginning. I am expecting to receive in a few days their version and will scan to you under privileged and confidential communication.”
Attorneys for Cohen insist that he never lobbied on behalf of Novartis, or any other firm, during his dealings as a consultant.

Novartis also maintains that nothing of substance transpired prior to its decision to break with Cohen.

However, Democrats remain unsure that no improprieties took place.
Democrats claim several of those points were similar to proposals included in a report Trump released in May 2018 outlining the administration’s priorities on addressing the cost of prescription drugs, but it is unclear whether they were drawn from the company’s six-point plan -- a list including cost-lowering initiatives Novartis and other pharmaceutical companies had advocated for publicly.
AT&T, which also contracted with Cohen's consulting firm, reportedly refused to turn over its communications with Cohen upon the Senate's request.

Continued:

https://politicsmaven.io/theintellec...Uim7EytklXITw/
L.A. BRONCOS FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2018, 12:19 PM   #18
gunns
I WANT DEFENSE!
 
gunns's Avatar
 
Defense, defense, defense

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Always Hoping
Posts: 18,803

Adopt-a-Bronco:
John Mobley
Default

Cohen has recordings of Trump and his discussions regarding making payments to Karen McDougal, the one that he has denied being with or making a payment to. Just another lie on what is now a mountain of lies. I find it hysterical. WH (and the mentally weak on this board): fake news.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/michael-co...opstories.html
gunns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2018, 12:31 PM   #19
Rohirrim
Partisan
 
Rohirrim's Avatar
 
And so it goes...

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Trumpville (like Potterville, but stupider)
Posts: 79,465

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Phillip Lindsay
Default

Helsinki proves that Trump can do anything and it just doesn't matter. Like the rise of fascism in the past, he grows more dangerous day by day. He just pushes out the envelope of acceptable behavior and the Republican Party falls in behind. Soon, he'll realize he can engage in the most outrageous behavior with complete impunity.
Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2018, 04:30 AM   #20
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
 
L.A. BRONCOS FAN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location
Posts: 86,534
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gunns View Post
Cohen has recordings of Trump and his discussions regarding making payments to Karen McDougal, the one that he has denied being with or making a payment to. Just another lie on what is now a mountain of lies. I find it hysterical. WH (and the mentally weak on this board): fake news.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/michael-co...opstories.html
Michael Cohen's tapes might be the kompromat we've been waiting for

Cohen reportedly has lifelong ties to the Russian mafia, and he’s showing a KGB-level knack for betrayal.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...719-story.html
L.A. BRONCOS FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2018, 12:10 PM   #21
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
 
L.A. BRONCOS FAN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location
Posts: 86,534
Default

L.A. BRONCOS FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2018, 03:52 AM   #22
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla!
 
L.A. BRONCOS FAN's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location
Posts: 86,534
Default

Onward "Christian" soldiers...

Quote:
A former Playboy playmate accused Elliot Broidy of backing out of a $1.6 million settlement to keep quiet about an extramarital affair. The lawyer who helped set up the arrangement? Michael Cohen.



A tale of two scandals, with a rich Trump donor, kickbacks and a Playboy playmate
L.A. BRONCOS FAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2018, 12:14 PM   #23
Rohirrim
Partisan
 
Rohirrim's Avatar
 
And so it goes...

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Trumpville (like Potterville, but stupider)
Posts: 79,465

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Phillip Lindsay
Default

I think that the biggest danger now is that the Republican Party just falls in behind Trump no matter what he says or does. In the Watergate era, it was the Republicans who led the charge in defense of the government, holding that the government was bigger, and more important than the man; Primarily, the John Adam's idea that we are a "government of laws, not men." A large chunk of the Republican Party no longer believes that.

In fact, they believe the government (on the federal level, at least) is the enemy and should be taken down. They are now actually trying to raise a new constitutional convention to meet for that specific purpose, getting rid of federal power (and SS, Medicare, etc.), the Supreme Court, and raising the power of states above federal power. I guess it will not apply to the military/industrial complex. They love that.

In their interpretation, they are "saving" America from become a "socialist state." I think it's more like what the agenda of the Southern states has always been, they want a whites-only country.

Anyway, I assume the critical moment will come when Trump starts dishing out pardons and firing Sessions, Mueller and Rosenstein. At some point, America will have to choose sides.
Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2018, 01:28 PM   #24
Chris
Millenium Scrooge McDuck
 
Chris's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,215

Adopt-a-Bronco:
OrlandoFranklin
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rohirrim View Post
I think that the biggest danger now is that the Republican Party just falls in behind Trump no matter what he says or does. In the Watergate era, it was the Republicans who led the charge in defense of the government, holding that the government was bigger, and more important than the man; Primarily, the John Adam's idea that we are a "government of laws, not men." A large chunk of the Republican Party no longer believes that.

In fact, they believe the government (on the federal level, at least) is the enemy and should be taken down. They are now actually trying to raise a new constitutional convention to meet for that specific purpose, getting rid of federal power (and SS, Medicare, etc.), the Supreme Court, and raising the power of states above federal power. I guess it will not apply to the military/industrial complex. They love that.

In their interpretation, they are "saving" America from become a "socialist state." I think it's more like what the agenda of the Southern states has always been, they want a whites-only country.

Anyway, I assume the critical moment will come when Trump starts dishing out pardons and firing Sessions, Mueller and Rosenstein. At some point, America will have to choose sides.
Which is completely idiotic because it ignores the fact that the state is the enterprise that provides the base for all other free enterprise to flourish. It's also ****ing cynical, selfish, self-aggrandizng and fundamentally "anti-social". Throw away your passport and enjoy floating in the ocean if that's what you think a country is.
Chris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2018, 01:40 PM   #25
Rohirrim
Partisan
 
Rohirrim's Avatar
 
And so it goes...

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Trumpville (like Potterville, but stupider)
Posts: 79,465

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Phillip Lindsay
Default

They also want to get rid of the income tax.
Rohirrim is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:54 PM.


Denver Broncos