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Old 05-04-2018, 04:49 PM   #1
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As soon as I saw that KC tattoo I knew he was not long for the Broncos.

VM, Chubb....extend Barrett and Holland as rotation.

Many Teams need a pass rusher, and we don’t have to trade him. We likely pick up a third if we let him play this year & go free agent.
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Old 05-04-2018, 04:53 PM   #2
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As soon as I saw that KC tattoo I knew he was not long for the Broncos.

VM, Chubb....extend Barrett and Holland as rotation.

Many Teams need a pass rusher, and we don’t have to trade him. We likely pick up a third if we let him play this year & go free agent.
Shane Ray for Aaron Rodgers!

Although if they gave us a first as well I'd take Luck.
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I imagine they’d be open to it, but only for better than a third (what they’d get for a compensatory pick). Otherwise, you can never have too many pass rushers in the short term. NASCAR package, baby.
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I wanna keep him and see him in the NASCAR package
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I imagine they’d be open to it, but only for better than a third (what they’d get for a compensatory pick). Otherwise, you can never have too many pass rushers in the short term. NASCAR package, baby.
Bingo Bango. Best case scenario. He plays his ass off, gets double digit sacks and nets us a 3rd round comp pick. There is really no benefit of trading him, unless it's a second.

I would rather see him on the team.
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Bingo Bango. Best case scenario. He plays his ass off, gets double digit sacks and nets us a 3rd round comp pick. There is really no benefit of trading him, unless it's a second.

I would rather see him on the team.
Who do you cut so you can have his spot?

I doubt Holland wouldn’t get picked off practice squad. If we keep 5 OLBs, someone else has to go.
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I'd keep him until next year, if he plays great, we wouldn't be able to afford him anyway. He'll play hard this year.. and next year if he did do well, we get a higher round draft pick for him. yay.
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Who do you cut so you can have his spot?

I doubt Holland wouldn’t get picked off practice squad. If we keep 5 OLBs, someone else has to go.
I wait until we see how everyone plays in the pre season.

It seems a bit silly to cut players before they can be evaluated.
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Keep him and use him for depth.
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Who do you cut so you can have his spot?

I doubt Holland wouldn’t get picked off practice squad. If we keep 5 OLBs, someone else has to go.
Broncos usually keep 5 OLB's on the roster. Last season was the first in which we did not since 2011 and most of that was because we lacked depth at the position, even moving Walker over to OLB to cover for it.

So Holland wouldn't be taking anyone's spot, he'd be returning the Broncos to the norm of 5 OLB's.
2011 and 2017 are the only seasons in the Elway era in which we did not have 5 OLB's on the roster.

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Old 05-04-2018, 05:32 PM   #11
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I don't get why people are so quick to dump him when we can use him on a contract year and if he doesn't deliver then we still get a 3rd round comp pick for him which is probably what we get if we traded him now.
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I would trade him for #teamsloter
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For a decent return (better than a mid-3rd) I would be open to it. I would rather keep him, though.
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I would trade him for #teamsloter
Even the Vikings don't have a #teamsloter.
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He will be playing out a lame duck year. I wouldn’t give him away, but the time to get something for him before we lose him. The young guys need snaps to develop.

A 3rd should move him. Player for player would be more interesting.
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Get a third and move on.

I don't want to wait two years to get a compensatory. We're losing two years of interest that way.

Or whatever the football equivalent of interest is.

This actually should have been done at the draft as he would have been a more attractive trade option with the trading team still having the ability to exercise the option. Is the time period for that up yet?
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Get a third and move on.

I don't want to wait two years to get a compensatory. We're losing two years of interest that way.

Or whatever the football equivalent of interest is.

This actually should have been done at the draft as he would have been a more attractive trade option with the trading team still having the ability to exercise the option. Is the time period for that up yet?
SEA released Avril today. His career is likely over.
Get a 3rd round pick from SEA and move on.
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Get a third and move on.

I don't want to wait two years to get a compensatory. We're losing two years of interest that way.

Or whatever the football equivalent of interest is.

This actually should have been done at the draft as he would have been a more attractive trade option with the trading team still having the ability to exercise the option. Is the time period for that up yet?
Why write off the immediate? He can help NOW in the rotation and NASCAR packages. A third in 2020 is definitely better than one in 2019 in that view.
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Get a third and move on.

I don't want to wait two years to get a compensatory. We're losing two years of interest that way.

Or whatever the football equivalent of interest is.

This actually should have been done at the draft as he would have been a more attractive trade option with the trading team still having the ability to exercise the option. Is the time period for that up yet?
That's some Jeff Luc **** right there.

Leave Ray alone unless some team comes thirsty as **** offering something you cannot refuse. You can refuse anything less than a 2nd easily.
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Even the Vikings don't have a #teamsloter.
Just bc you say it doesn’t mean it be true!!
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That's some Jeff Luc **** right there.

Leave Ray alone unless some team comes thirsty as **** offering something you cannot refuse. You can refuse anything less than a 2nd easily.
Even Jeff Luc.working at a Tim Horton's in Calgary after he got cut by the Stampeders knows there is no reason to hold out for a 2nd when the best you can possibly get as a compensatory in 2020 is gonna be a third (at the end of the round too). What possible reason does a team have to give us a 2? Especially now that the team that wants him apparently cannot secure another year of his services without franchising him which would cost more than the 9m option. There's literally no one that's going to be that thirsty, Scribe.

That's Tim Settle level reasoning there...you're better than that, Scribe.
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Even Jeff Luc.working at a Tim Horton's in Calgary after he got cut by the Stampeders knows there is no reason to hold out for a 2nd when the best you can possibly get as a compensatory in 2020 is gonna be a third. So what possible reason does a team have to give us a 2? Especially now that the team that wants him apparently cannot secure another year of his services without franchising him which would cost more than the 9m option. There's literally no one that's going to be that thirsty, Scribe.

That's Tim Settle level reasoning there...you're better than that, Scribe.
Fine. Then don’t trade him. Keep him for his value as a rotational/NASCAR rusher.
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Get a third and move on.

I don't want to wait two years to get a compensatory. We're losing two years of interest that way.

Or whatever the football equivalent of interest is.

This actually should have been done at the draft as he would have been a more attractive trade option with the trading team still having the ability to exercise the option. Is the time period for that up yet?
Bingo.

A third now gives us a guarantee on the pick which will be higher than a compensory no matter who we trade with.

Also, frees up a roster spot & let’s our two young rush LBs get reps.

Shaq Barrett is way better. We should resign him. Hope we can do that.
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Fine. Then don’t trade him. Keep him for his value as a rotational/NASCAR rusher.
So he's here for one year as a sub package guy.

Where is the value in that?

Get the damn pick. This should have been done 20 seconds after the Chubb pick was made.
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Even Jeff Luc.working at a Tim Horton's in Calgary after he got cut by the Stampeders knows there is no reason to hold out for a 2nd when the best you can possibly get as a compensatory in 2020 is gonna be a third (at the end of the round too). What possible reason does a team have to give us a 2? Especially now that the team that wants him apparently cannot secure another year of his services without franchising him which would cost more than the 9m option. There's literally no one that's going to be that thirsty, Scribe.

That's Tim Settle level reasoning there...you're better than that, Scribe.
There is no reason to trade Ray, pass rushers don't grow on trees, he's shown to be very productive when healthy in the past and he's dirt cheap.
But yeah, let's trade him.

Says SoCal of the Marcell Ateman school of deductive reasoning

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