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Old 06-03-2018, 07:38 AM   #126
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:03 AM   #127
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So why didnít he just make her the successor?
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:11 AM   #128
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Lets just follow the green pay packer model.

Offer up shares of the team for $5000 each. Offer those shares to the season ticket holders first.

Then because the taxpayers of Denver helped fund the stadium offer shares to them.

Raising $2b in Denver would be easy considering the real estate market there. Most season ticket holders and home owners in Denver have an extra $100k-$300+k in real estate appreciation over the last few years alone! Not to mention their 401ks.

A little house in Denver is now $600k. A decent house is $1M. What's $5,000 to own a piece of the Broncos?

Bowlens get cashed out, the lifeblood of the city can drink himself silly, we can put a real management in team in place based on performance.

Oh we can negotiate some shares to be tossed to orangemane die hards also.

Forget the orange t-shirts taco. We need an orange mane luxury box.

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Old 06-03-2018, 08:47 AM   #129
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Lets just follow the green pay packer model.

Offer up shares of the team for $5000 each. Offer those shares to the season ticket holders first.

Then because the taxpayers of Denver helped fund the stadium offer shares to them.

Raising $2b in Denver would be easy considering the real estate market there. Most season ticket holders and home owners in Denver have an extra $100k-$300+k in real estate appreciation over the last few years alone! Not to mention their 401ks.

A little house in Denver is now $600k. A decent house is $1M. What's $5,000 to own a piece of the Broncos?

Bowlens get cashed out, the lifeblood of the city can drink himself silly, we can put a real management in team in place based on performance.

Oh we can negotiate some shares to be tossed to orangemane die hards also.

Forget the orange t-shirts taco. We need an orange mane luxury box.
Sign me up. This would also guarantee the team would never move.
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Old 06-03-2018, 10:13 AM   #130
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I'm wondering what one needs in order to be "qualified" to own a sports team, beyond a lot of money of course. It would be interesting to find out more about this brewing little family spat.
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Old 06-03-2018, 01:12 PM   #131
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Lets just follow the green pay packer model.

Offer up shares of the team for $5000 each. Offer those shares to the season ticket holders first.

Then because the taxpayers of Denver helped fund the stadium offer shares to them.

Raising $2b in Denver would be easy considering the real estate market there. Most season ticket holders and home owners in Denver have an extra $100k-$300+k in real estate appreciation over the last few years alone! Not to mention their 401ks.

A little house in Denver is now $600k. A decent house is $1M. What's $5,000 to own a piece of the Broncos?

Bowlens get cashed out, the lifeblood of the city can drink himself silly, we can put a real management in team in place based on performance.

Oh we can negotiate some shares to be tossed to orangemane die hards also.

Forget the orange t-shirts taco. We need an orange mane luxury box.
If it's like the Packers model, the shares would be effectively worthless outside of their status as memorabilia. Packers shareholders have no rights.
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DMac on The Fan made a good point about being qualified to be the lead owner of the Broncos. I'm not about to make a habit of agreeing with him because he seems to just fill in the blanks with his own story a lot, but he was saying that the main qualification to run the Broncos is being one of the Bowlen children. Anybody who doesn't meet that criteria is unqualified. Only seven people meet that qualification. So yes, Beth is qualified to be the lead owner of the team. The question really is, out of the seven, who is the most qualified? And what is the time line to pick one? It doesn't seem like the managers of the trust are going to answer either of those questions.
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Old 06-03-2018, 01:52 PM   #133
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If it's like the Packers model, the shares would be effectively worthless outside of their status as memorabilia. Packers shareholders have no rights.
Why would anyone want to purchase worthless shares of stock for their emotional value? I don't see the Denver situation as similar. Green Bay is the NFL's smallest market, a town with a population the size of Greely, Colorado. I don't see the same kind of folksy homespun small-town kind of appeal working in Denver. The Bronco's/Bowlen trust needs to either settle on one of the Bowlen kids or seek a real owner who is motivated to keep the team in Denver. I'm sure some ski resort mogul or an investor group led by Elway and others could accomplish this.
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Old 06-03-2018, 01:54 PM   #134
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DMac on The Fan made a good point about being qualified to be the lead owner of the Broncos. I'm not about to make a habit of agreeing with him because he seems to just fill in the blanks with his own story a lot, but he was saying that the main qualification to run the Broncos is being one of the Bowlen children. Anybody who doesn't meet that criteria is unqualified. Only seven people meet that qualification. So yes, Beth is qualified to be the lead owner of the team. The question really is, out of the seven, who is the most qualified? And what is the time line to pick one? It doesn't seem like the managers of the trust are going to answer either of those questions.
Who currently has the effective power? Is it Joe Ellis? Just a few years ago this guy was pretty reviled in here. Has he magically gained credibility or is he now perhaps motivated to keep the power in his own hands and those of the trust?

Pat Bowlen is not going to be around much longer, so they need to do something fairly quickly in terms of making some kind of decision.
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Old 06-03-2018, 01:55 PM   #135
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DMac on The Fan made a good point about being qualified to be the lead owner of the Broncos. I'm not about to make a habit of agreeing with him because he seems to just fill in the blanks with his own story a lot, but he was saying that the main qualification to run the Broncos is being one of the Bowlen children. Anybody who doesn't meet that criteria is unqualified. Only seven people meet that qualification. So yes, Beth is qualified to be the lead owner of the team. The question really is, out of the seven, who is the most qualified? And what is the time line to pick one? It doesn't seem like the managers of the trust are going to answer either of those questions.
Alfred did a good job of calling dmac out on his provacative takes about the trust. Like Alfred said, itís really none of our business, and Beth made sure this week that sheíll never be chosen to succeed her father.
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Old 06-03-2018, 03:35 PM   #136
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I'll do it. MUG and jebrues would be my scouts.
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Old 06-03-2018, 03:53 PM   #137
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DMac on The Fan made a good point about being qualified to be the lead owner of the Broncos. I'm not about to make a habit of agreeing with him because he seems to just fill in the blanks with his own story a lot, but he was saying that the main qualification to run the Broncos is being one of the Bowlen children. Anybody who doesn't meet that criteria is unqualified. Only seven people meet that qualification. So yes, Beth is qualified to be the lead owner of the team. The question really is, out of the seven, who is the most qualified? And what is the time line to pick one? It doesn't seem like the managers of the trust are going to answer either of those questions.
None of the Bowlen's are qualified. And it should be noted that Beth Bowlen is heavily involved with DMac's charity.
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Old 06-03-2018, 04:14 PM   #138
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John ****ed this up after his Alzheimer diagnosis by not truly setting things in stone for the future. He had time before he really deteriorated to hammer **** out. What that tells me is that he had no idea which of his kids are truly worth running things, which is a shame - that or he just procrastinated forever.
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Old 06-03-2018, 04:32 PM   #139
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If it's like the Packers model, the shares would be effectively worthless outside of their status as memorabilia. Packers shareholders have no rights.
Well the Packers do have a history of screwing their fans. SB 32 comes to mind.
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The article Renck is referring to here by Woody is a very good read. In addition to the above Brittany reveal, there are a few other tidbits on all the other kids, and a real good point about the trust itself that was voted on by the league and passed 31-0.
Apparently, the genius of the family trust besides the obvious is that it completely avoids the brutal estate tax system. If you want to know what the estate tax can do to a family with a considerable asset like a NFL team look up the Joe Robbie Dolphins, and how the family lost it.

http://gazette.com/woody-paige-battl...rticle/1627026
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Beth is only doing this now to try to preempt Brittany. Brittany would be the choice of the trust, if she becomes qualified.
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Lets just follow the green pay packer model.

Offer up shares of the team for $5000 each. Offer those shares to the season ticket holders first.

Then because the taxpayers of Denver helped fund the stadium offer shares to them.

Raising $2b in Denver would be easy considering the real estate market there. Most season ticket holders and home owners in Denver have an extra $100k-$300+k in real estate appreciation over the last few years alone! Not to mention their 401ks.

A little house in Denver is now $600k. A decent house is $1M. What's $5,000 to own a piece of the Broncos?

Bowlens get cashed out, the lifeblood of the city can drink himself silly, we can put a real management in team in place based on performance.

Oh we can negotiate some shares to be tossed to orangemane die hards also.

Forget the orange t-shirts taco. We need an orange mane luxury box.
Pretty sure the NFL owners have said that the Green Bay situation is unique and will never be repeated.
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Pretty sure the NFL owners have said that the Green Bay situation is unique and will never be repeated.
I'm sure that's the case.

It's a billionaire game now. People are throwing billions around Denver like nothing these days.

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Beth is only doing this now to try to preempt Brittany. Brittany would be the choice of the trust, if she becomes qualified.
Seems pretty obvious that they are waiting for her to get a little older and a little more experienced, then it's her.
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None of the Bowlen's are qualified. And it should be noted that Beth Bowlen is heavily involved with DMac's charity.
I'd say that the Bowlen children not being qualified to run an organization like a NFL team is irrelevant, because one of them will be selected. There doesn't appear to be a way around that. So it's up to the trust to figure out who the most qualified is. I wouldn't be surprised if they already know who that is, and they are preparing that person behind the scenes. Clearly, it's not Beth.
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I'd say that the Bowlen children not being qualified to run an organization like a NFL team is irrelevant, because one of them will be selected. There doesn't appear to be a way around that. So it's up to the trust to figure out who the most qualified is. I wouldn't be surprised if they already know who that is, and they are preparing that person behind the scenes. Clearly, it's not Beth.
It would be Brittany (if she wants it). Looks to me like Brittany has been preparing her entire adult life for it, whereas Beth only started preparing once Pat fell ill.
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if he mane is going to be owning this team, i better get out there and starting looking for a QB.


all my mail can be forwarded to Africa for the next year. i will be studying giraffes.
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Why would anyone want to purchase worthless shares of stock for their emotional value? I don't see the Denver situation as similar. Green Bay is the NFL's smallest market, a town with a population the size of Greely, Colorado. I don't see the same kind of folksy homespun small-town kind of appeal working in Denver. The Bronco's/Bowlen trust needs to either settle on one of the Bowlen kids or seek a real owner who is motivated to keep the team in Denver. I'm sure some ski resort mogul or an investor group led by Elway and others could accomplish this.
evangelicalism is the first thing that came to my mind!
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Lets just follow the green pay packer model.

Offer up shares of the team for $5000 each. Offer those shares to the season ticket holders first.

Then because the taxpayers of Denver helped fund the stadium offer shares to them.

Raising $2b in Denver would be easy considering the real estate market there. Most season ticket holders and home owners in Denver have an extra $100k-$300+k in real estate appreciation over the last few years alone! Not to mention their 401ks.

A little house in Denver is now $600k. A decent house is $1M. What's $5,000 to own a piece of the Broncos?

Bowlens get cashed out, the lifeblood of the city can drink himself silly, we can put a real management in team in place based on performance.

Oh we can negotiate some shares to be tossed to orangemane die hards also.

Forget the orange t-shirts taco. We need an orange mane luxury box.


lol. not even close.
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