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Old 02-12-2019, 07:28 AM   #151
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I saw a show about this (probably the same one). I believe in the case you're speaking of, they can see that the hot spot on the planet is not on the side directly facing it's star as happens on other planets we observe, but is skewed a certain distance around to the side all the time. The hot spot is sometimes skewed in other planets but is caused by the direction the planet rotates. In this planet, it is skewed opposite the planet's rotation and they speculate that only very high winds can cause this. Here's an article I found on the phenomenon.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/myst...overed-1803707
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I saw a show about this (probably the same one). I believe in the case you're speaking of, they can see that the hot spot on the planet is not on the side directly facing it's star as happens on other planets we observe, but is skewed a certain distance around to the side all the time. The hot spot is sometimes skewed in other planets but is caused by the direction the planet rotates. In this planet, it is skewed opposite the planet's rotation and they speculate that only very high winds can cause this. Here's an article I found on the phenomenon.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/myst...overed-1803707
I thought it was interesting to use a specific MPH. And of course non of this can be proven. But that didn't stop them as presenting the data as facts.
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I thought it was interesting to use a specific MPH. And of course non of this can be proven. But that didn't stop them as presenting the data as facts.
You really don't get it at all. No wonder you think science is trickery.

Read the article STBumpkin linked.

Scientists don't just make up ****.
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You really don't get it at all. No wonder you think science is trickery.

Read the article STBumpkin linked.

Scientists don't just make up ****.
I didn't click the link. No. I just view this "science" with the same scrutiny as I do with religion. And the shows I watch are nothing more than commercials for their theories.
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I didn't click the link. No. I just view this "science" with the same scrutiny as I do with religion. And the shows I watch are nothing more than commercials for their theories.
Wow.

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Wow.

Resolute ignorance isn't a good trait to have.
Coming from the guy that hounds every Gaff post. lol.
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I thought it was interesting to use a specific MPH. And of course non of this can be proven. But that didn't stop them as presenting the data as facts.
They know how fast the planet is spinning. They know how big the planet is. They know how far the hot spot is displaced. Using all of that information, they can calculate how fast the winds must be to move the hot spot against the spinning of the planet in the opposite direction. Just math.
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They know how fast the planet is spinning. They know how big the planet is. They know how far the hot spot is displaced. Using all of that information, they can calculate how fast the winds must be to move the hot spot against the spinning of the planet in the opposite direction. Just math.
They can't even see the planets. They have to guess they are there because of the gravitational pull. Lots of ways for things to be wrong in this scenario. And the only reason it is assumed correct is because all the scientist agree on it. Most of it is faith in the system my friend.
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They can't even see the planets. They have to guess they are there because of the gravitational pull. Lots of ways for things to be wrong in this scenario. And the only reason it is assumed correct is because all the scientist agree on it. Most of it is faith in the system my friend.
No, they FIND the planets by either their gravity making stars "wobble" or they see a star's light grow dimmer as the planet passes between us and its star. The do SEE them, via infrared array camera on the Spitzer space telescope, but you'd know that if you would actually read an article provided for you.
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No, they FIND the planets by either their gravity making stars "wobble" or they see a star's light grow dimmer as the planet passes between us and its star. The do SEE them, via infrared array camera on the Spitzer space telescope, but you'd know that if you would actually read an article provided for you.
Clicking on links from strangers isn't an intelligent thing to do. But you're far more trusting than me.
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Clicking on links from strangers isn't an intelligent thing to do. But you're far more trusting than me.
Then google it yourself! "high winds move hot spot on planet" was enough to find it. It's almost as if you enjoy being ignorant.
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Then google it yourself! "high winds move hot spot on planet" was enough to find it. It's almost as if you enjoy being ignorant.
Now it makes a little more sense. The show I was watching was about solar winds in our galaxy. It wasn't anything specific. More of a generalized statement. And again, there's plenty of room for error with these theories. You're trying to turn acceptance in the field as fact.
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They can't even see the planets. They have to guess they are there because of the gravitational pull. Lots of ways for things to be wrong in this scenario. And the only reason it is assumed correct is because all the scientist agree on it. Most of it is faith in the system my friend.
You're an idiot.
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Now it makes a little more sense. The show I was watching was about solar winds in our galaxy. It wasn't anything specific. More of a generalized statement. And again, there's plenty of room for error with these theories. You're trying to turn acceptance in the field as fact.
Theories in science aren't wild-ass guesses, asshat.

https://www.livescience.com/21491-wh...of-theory.html

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You're an idiot.
Did you just realize non of this stuff can ever be proven? lol
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Did you just realize non of this stuff can ever be proven? lol
If you want proof, stick to the law, logic, math and booze.

Science doesn't deal in proof.

Besides, do you really think scientists make up stuff just to fool you in some way?

Why would they do that?
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If you want proof, stick to the law, logic, math and booze.

Science doesn't deal in proof.

Besides, do you really think scientists make up stuff just to fool you in some way?

Why would they do that?
Exactly. This area of science is no different than any religion. In fact, they often emulate each others tactics.

Why would untold numbers of Christians go willing to their deaths before recanting their faith? Why would modern science ever discredit their beliefs?
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Exactly. This area of science is no different than any religion. In fact, they often emulate each others tactics.

Why would untold numbers of Christians go willing to their deaths before recanting their faith? Why would modern science ever discredit their beliefs?
Scientists have evidence and the religious do not. Science deals in things that are real and built on understanding of things that are observed and tested. Religion is based on faith in things that do not have evidence.
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Exactly. This area of science is no different than any religion. In fact, they often emulate each others tactics.

Why would untold numbers of Christians go willing to their deaths before recanting their faith? Why would modern science ever discredit their beliefs?
If your religious faith is weakened by science, well, fix your faith.

Hundreds of people died for Jim Jones, too. Doesn't make him right.
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Scientists have evidence and the religious do not. Science deals in things that are real and built on understanding of things that are observed and tested. Religion is based on faith in things that do not have evidence.
All societies worth mentioning have been built around religion. The only reason someone hasn't killed you yet is because of religion. lol@U

But believe what you want. Nothing can be proven. I can explain everything your science can, but do it with religion.
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If your religious faith is weakened by science, well, fix your faith.

Hundreds of people died for Jim Jones, too. Doesn't make him right.
Turns out he actually killed them. Or that's what's been reported.
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All societies worth mentioning have been built around religion. The only reason someone hasn't killed you yet is because of religion. lol@U

But believe what you want. Nothing can be proven. I can explain everything your science can, but do it with religion.
I can say "I don't know" and feel perfectly okay with that. You can't do that with your religion.
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I can say "I don't know" and feel perfectly okay with that. You can't do that with your religion.
Sure I can.

And I can say it's not gravity but God. I can say solar winds are caused by Alien technology. Big Bang. Nope Genesis. My theories are no different than yours.
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I can explain everything your science can, but do it with religion.
Bull.

When someone falls down, is it because your god delivered a mini-smite to them?
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Bull.

When someone falls down, is it because your god delivered a mini-smite to them?
You really don't think a man came before Newton and wondered the same things? Catapults ring a bell?

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