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Old 08-01-2018, 09:38 AM   #126
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Too late, BibleBot.

You said "Jew" was a "race."

Your ignorance (read: inability to distinguish race from ethnicity) has already been exposed for all to see.

Again.
Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

All Hebrews, Israelites and Jews are descendants of Abraham who is was born, according to the Scriptures, in Ur, which would make all Hebrews, Jews and Israelites descendants of the “Semitic” race.

It is not uncommon for people to refer the “Jewish Race.
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It is not uncommon for people to refer the “Jewish Race.
It's also not uncommon for people to refer to Native Americans as "Indians", and Asians as "Orientals", and sparkling wine as "Champagne", etc. Doesn't make them correct.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:45 AM   #128
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Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

All Hebrews, Israelites and Jews are descendants of Abraham who is was born, according to the Scriptures, in Ur, which would make all Hebrews, Jews and Israelites descendants of the “Semitic” race.
Thanks for the confirmation: You don't understand the difference between "race" and "ethnicity."

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It is not uncommon for people to refer the “Jewish Race.
Lolz.

'Not uncommon' for people with limited cognitive capacities.
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Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

All Hebrews, Israelites and Jews are descendants of Abraham who is was born, according to the Scriptures, in Ur, which would make all Hebrews, Jews and Israelites descendants of the “Semitic” race.

It is not uncommon for people to refer the “Jewish Race.
That may have been true of the Hebrews. But today, most Israelis are the progeny of converts to Judaism. The racial argument no longer holds, assuming it once did.
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It's also not uncommon for people to refer to Native Americans as "Indians", and Asians as "Orientals", and sparkling wine as "Champagne", etc. Doesn't make them correct.
DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.

The holocaust was Hitler attempting to wipe out the Jewish race.
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Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

All Hebrews, Israelites and Jews are descendants of Abraham who is was born, according to the Scriptures, in Ur, which would make all Hebrews, Jews and Israelites descendants of the “Semitic” race.

It is not uncommon for people to refer the “Jewish Race.
Why don't you just concede you spoke in error?
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:47 AM   #132
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Why don't you just concede you spoke in error?
DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.
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Thanks for the confirmation: You don't understand the difference between "race" and "ethnicity."



Lolz.

'Not uncommon' for people with limited cognitive capacities.
And you too.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.
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DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.
He is one person. Jews don't consider themselves a 'race'

Are Americans a race?
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And you too.

DNA Links Prove Jews Are a 'Race,' Says Genetics Expert
Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.
Lolz!

Nope.

Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/
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Why don't you just concede you spoke in error?
Heh!

BibleBot would have to spend the rest of his life making such concessions.
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Lolz!

Nope.

Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/
Back at you

Geneticists have long been aware that certain diseases, from breast cancer to Tay-Sachs, disproportionately affect Jews. Ostrer, who is also director of genetic and genomic testing at Montefiore Medical Center, goes further, maintaining that Jews are a homogeneous group with all the scientific trappings of what we used to call a “race.”

The change in definition is to purposely take away land from Israel & go against biblical mandates.

Answer this. Did the holocaust occur? Who was Hitler’s main target?
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Heh!

BibleBot would have to spend the rest of his life making such concessions.
That's what happens when you think the 'Big Book of Smiting' is a 'History' book and quote it as fact.
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Conjuring fear of Nazism and anti-Semitism, Jews recoil from the thought that Judaism might be a race, but medical geneticist Harry Ostrer insists the 'biological basis of Jewishness' cannot be ignored.
You need to provide links and use the quote feature when you use words that aren't your own.
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Geneticists have long been aware that certain diseases, from breast cancer to Tay-Sachs, disproportionately affect Jews. Ostrer, who is also director of genetic and genomic testing at Montefiore Medical Center, goes further, maintaining that Jews are a homogeneous group with all the scientific trappings of what we used to call a “race.”
Lolz.

Looks like somebody didn't (or couldn't) read the full article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/

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An ethnoreligious group knows as "the Jews."
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Lolz.

Looks like somebody didn't (or couldn't) read the full article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/



An ethnoreligious group knows as "the Jews."
I didn’t read any of your article because you are wrong.

Not surprising the left would hate God’s people.

https://www.haaretz.com/whdcMobileSi...pert-1.5220113

Genetics & historical records prove you wrong.
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Lolz.

Looks like somebody didn't (or couldn't) read the full article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/



An ethnoreligious group knows as "the Jews."

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/...uleId=10007457

The Holocaust is an event central to our understanding of western civilization, the nation state, and modern bureaucratic society as well as human nature. It was the premeditated mass murder of millions of innocent civilians. Driven by a racist ideology that regarded Jews as “parasitic vermin” worthy only of eradication, the Nazis implemented genocide on an unprecedented scale. They slated all of Europe's Jews for destruction: the sick and the healthy, the rich and the poor, the religiously orthodox and converts to Christianity, the aged and the young, even infants.

And here we have science & survival of the fittest

The Nazis also adopted the social Darwinist take on Darwinian evolutionary theory regarding the “survival of the fittest.”
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I didn’t read any of your article because you are wrong.
Lolz.

How do you know the information in the article is "wrong" if you didn't read it?





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Not surprising the left would hate God’s people.


Simply pointing out your classification error = anti-Semitism?

You're nuttier than a fruitcake.

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Genetics & historical records prove you wrong
No, they don't.

Just the opposite, in fact...

Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/
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Red herring.

We're talking about your mischaracterization of "Jewish" as a "race."

Try to stay on point.
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Why don't you just concede you spoke in error?
His addled brain refuses to allow him to do so.
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Lolz.

How do you know the information in the article is "wrong" if you didn't read it?









Simply pointing out your classification error = anti-Semitism?

You're nuttier than a fruitcake.



No, they don't.

Just the opposite, in fact...

Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301023/
Hitler specifically targeted the Jews as a race. This has been done many times in history.


The first and greatest lie, that Jewry is not a racial question, but a religion, inevitably leads to further lies. Another lie concerns the Jew’s language. It is not a way for him to express his thoughts, but rather a means to conceal them. Although he may speak German, French, or some other language, he thinks in a Jewish way. He may spout German poetry, but he remains a member of his race. Heinrich Heine is the best example.

http://research.calvin.edu/german-pr...eltparasit.htm
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His addled brain refuses to allow him to do so.
He's clueless and flailing around like a beached carp.

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Hitler specifically targeted the Jews as a race. This has been done many times in history.


Not a "race" - an ethnoreligious group.

We get it: you're too dense to understand the difference.
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He's clueless and flailing around like a beached carp.

Yoda in Vader drag.
At every turn, Phonyels runs into the same old nemesis: science.

You can set your watch to it.
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Not a "race" - an ethnoreligious group.

We get it: you're too dense to understand the difference.
Lmao

I’ll add this to the list of your stats.

So no reply to Hitler trying to wipe them out as a race with my documented reference. You dodged that!

Same ole’ TP, aka meme bot!!!
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