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Old 05-25-2018, 11:17 AM   #26
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Who the F defended Hamas?
Nobody. That's the genius of your basic Beavis deflection. Propaganda 101. "Unnamed people", etc. etc. etc.
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Old 05-25-2018, 11:23 AM   #27
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Somebody in the FBI once told a lie. Ergo, Trump is not a pathological liar and the MSM should not inform the people when they are being blatantly lied to by a fundamentally dishonest president because (like Beavis points out), "Gee. Everything is not black and white."
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Now, Beavis is desperately searching for anybody who "defended" Hamas so he can completely deflect this thread away from pointing out that Trump is a pathological liar and that the media are doing the right thing when they inform the American people that they are being systematically and continuously lied to by this ****-stain of a president. Cue Jeopardy music while Beavis searches...
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Now, Beavis is desperately searching for anybody who "defended" Hamas so he can completely deflect this thread away from pointing out that Trump is a pathological liar and that the media are doing the right thing when they inform the American people that they are being systematically and continuously lied to by this ****-stain of a president. Cue Jeopardy music while Beavis searches...
Nothing to search, really. It's the whole party posture.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...tipping-point/

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While the Trump administration backed Israel’s right to defend its border with as much force as necessary, most Democrats didn’t agree. Many responded as the Obama administration would have been expected to, denouncing the supposedly “disproportionate” tactics of the Israel Defense Forces but also noting the role of the Hamas terrorist group, which rules Gaza, in fomenting the violence.

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But a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo from 13 Senate Democrats suggests the party may be at a tipping point.

The letter was organized by once and perhaps future presidential candidate Senator Bernie Sanders (Vt.) and was joined by Senator Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), another likely White House hopeful. Over the course of two pages laying out concern for the Palestinians and a desire to resume funding for a U.N. refugee agency fatally compromised by Hamas, the senators showed little interest in the terror group’s responsibility for the violence or the dismal situation in Gaza. Indeed, Sanders’s press release touting the letter denounced the actions of “Israeli snipers” but made no mention at all of Hamas.
And we've since learned that the large majority of those killed were actual members of the renowned terror group. But still this disgusting party line must be towed against the Middle East's most secular, progressive democracy.
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Old 05-25-2018, 11:43 AM   #31
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Somebody in the FBI once told a lie. Ergo, Trump is not a pathological liar and the MSM should not inform the people when they are being blatantly lied to by a fundamentally dishonest president because (like Beavis points out), "Gee. Everything is not black and white."
It certainly doesn't stop with McCabe. There's a whole culture of dishonesty in the agency, even at the top, that has been and will continue to be exposed.

Including trying to leverage the Logan Act in a Trump investigation on Flynn... an act that has never seen a successful prosecution in 200+ years of history, while giving Hillary the "No Reasonable Prosecutor" treatment when classified data in her care turned up on a pedophile's computer. The kind of thing that gets prosecutions and convictions all the time.

Andrew McCarthy had a good write up on the whole thing recently. I can find it for you if you're interested, but I think we all know you're not.

Anyway, the "Good Guys" thing was rich. If J Edgar Hoover taught us anything 40+ years ago, it's that the biggest threats to our liberty come from within. And often Russian Boogeymen are the justification to paper over those more realistic threats.
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Wow! Look at all the work that Captain Deflection put into his latest defense of the Orange ****-Stain! And it proves that...

Oh wait! It doesn't prove anything at all. It's just another pointless deflection. Is Trump still a pathological liar? Why, yes. Yes he is. Is he lying when he says the FBI infiltrated his campaign to target him? Yep. Is he lying when he says members of his campaign didn't collaborate with the Russians for dirt on Hillary? Yep. Has he told over 3,000 lies to the American people in his first year in office (worse than any president ever)? Yep. And should the MSM media warn the American people when Trump is feeding them another pile of his constant bull****? Yep.
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Wow! Look at all the work that Captain Deflection put into his latest defense of the Orange ****-Stain! And it proves that...

Oh wait! It doesn't prove anything at all. It's just another pointless deflection. Is Trump still a pathological liar? Why, yes. Yes he is. Is he lying when he says the FBI infiltrated his campaign to target him? Yep. Is he lying when he says members of his campaign didn't collaborate with the Russians for dirt on Hillary? Yep. Has he told over 3,000 lies to the American people in his first year in office (worse than any president ever)? Yep. And should the MSM media warn the American people when Trump is feeding them another pile of his constant bull****? Yep.
Just refrain from calling people we should be fairly skeptical of at this point "Good Guys" and we'll be fine.

We don't really know how this investigation really started until the FISA mess is cleaned up (in public)
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Just refrain from calling people we should be fairly skeptical of at this point "Good Guys" and we'll be fine.

We don't really know how this investigation really started until the FISA mess is cleaned up (in public)
In the context of Trump, they are the "good guys."
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der gaffo.
Well he is not on the left! He is on the side of the tin foil hat. I thought he was the one thing we could all get along on and agree was... out there!

Come on, don't lump my all American liberalism with Gaff!
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Well he is not on the left! He is on the side of the tin foil hat. I thought he was the one thing we could all get along on and agree was... out there!

Come on, don't lump my all American liberalism with Gaff!
I think Gaffo is actually a closet fascist.
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Trumps made all the snowflakes melt today
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Maybe Trump has tiger blood too!
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In the context of Trump, they are the "good guys."
If the last election taught us anything, it should be that sometimes there's only a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
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Trumps made all the snowflakes melt today
Yes he did. Telling the Naval Academy that he got them new equipment and a big pay raise for the first time in 10 years. Actually they've gotten a pay raise every year for 10 years and the one he got them is 2.6% increase. The increase in their pay raises in 2008, 2009, 2010 were all 3.4% or more.

As far as equipment he tells them we are lowest in ships since WWI and he got them 355 new ships which raises the amount by a couple of hundred ships. First off, we have 283 ships currently and the reality is we will have 355 new ships by 2050.

Are these the snowflakes you are referring to?
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Trump's PolitiFact scorecard:

True (5%)
Mostly True (11%)
Half True (16%)
Mostly False (22%)
False (32%)
Pants on Fire (14%)

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All presidents lie. Richard Nixon said he was not a crook, yet he orchestrated the most shamelessly crooked act in the modern presidency. Ronald Reagan said he wasn’t aware of the Iran-Contra deal; there’s evidence he was. Bill Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman; he did, or close enough. Lying in politics transcends political party and era. It is, in some ways, an inherent part of the profession of politicking.

But Donald Trump is in a different category. The sheer frequency, spontaneity and seeming irrelevance of his lies have no precedent. Nixon, Reagan and Clinton were protecting their reputations; Trump seems to lie for the pure joy of it. A whopping 70 percent of Trump’s statements that PolitiFact checked during the campaign were false, while only 4 percent were completely true, and 11 percent mostly true. (Compare that to the politician Trump dubbed “crooked,” Hillary Clinton: Just 26 percent of her statements were deemed false.)


Those who have followed Trump’s career say his lying isn’t just a tactic, but an ingrained habit. New York tabloid writers who covered Trump as a mogul on the rise in the 1980s and ’90s found him categorically different from the other self-promoting celebrities in just how often, and pointlessly, he would lie to them. In his own autobiography, Trump used the phrase “truthful hyperbole,” a term coined by his ghostwriter referring to the flagrant truth-stretching that Trump employed, over and over, to help close sales. Trump apparently loved the wording, and went on to adopt it as his own.

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Scarier still for those who have never supported Trump is that he just might colonize their brains, too. When we are in an environment headed by someone who lies, so often, something frightening happens: We stop reacting to the liar as a liar. His lying becomes normalized. We might even become more likely to lie ourselves. Trump is creating a highly politicized landscape where everyone is on the defensive: You’re either for me, or against me; if you win, I lose, and vice versa. Fiery Cushman, a moral psychologist at Harvard University, put it this way when I asked him about Trump: “Our moral intuitions are warped by the games we play.” Place us in an environment where it’s zero-sum, dog-eat-dog, party-eats-party, and we become, in game theory terms, “intuitive defectors,” meaning our first instinct is not to cooperate with others but to act in our own self-interest—which could mean disseminating lies ourselves.

The dynamic we are seeing unfurled in the United States is not merely hypothetical. We already have a model of this process—a country regressing when its leader goes from progressive to deceptive: Russia under Vladimir Putin. “This worldview”—a zero-sum, I win-you lose one—“is relatively more prevalent in Russia and other cultures with weak rule of law, high corruption and low generalized trust, as compared with Western democracies,” Cushman says. But when Western democracies start looking like those cultures, the norms can quickly shift.

The distressing reality is that our sense of truth is far more fragile than we would like to think it is—especially in the political arena, and especially when that sense of truth is twisted by a figure in power. As the 19th-century Scottish philosopher Alexander Bain put it, “The great master fallacy of the human mind is believing too much.” False beliefs, once established, are incredibly tricky to correct. A leader who lies constantly creates a new landscape, and a citizenry whose sense of reality may end up swaying far more than they think possible. It’s little wonder that authoritarian regimes with sophisticated propaganda operations can warp the worldviews of entire populations. “You are annihilated, exhausted, you can’t control yourself or remember what you said two minutes before. You feel that all is lost,” as one man who had been subject to Mao Zedong’s “reeducation” campaign in China put it to the psychiatrist Robert Lifton. “You accept anything he says.”
(Ibid.)

In other words, the lying regime of Trumpism is not the end of anything. It's the beginning. After all, what we believe is what creates our future.

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I'm sort of over it. It's taking too long and in todays world we want things to resolve faster. I'm waiting for the election results, and Mueller to wrap up his investigation and let us all know if he has enough to indict the President. Then we will have something to talk about!
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I'm sort of over it. It's taking too long and in todays world we want things to resolve faster. I'm waiting for the election results, and Mueller to wrap up his investigation and let us all know if he has enough to indict the President. Then we will have something to talk about!
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