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Old 11-29-2016, 10:30 PM   #101
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Tom Price wants to replace Medicare with a voucher program and sharply cut federal Medicaid funding -- stark contrasts from what Trump promised on the campaign trail.

Trump pledged to protect Medicare. His choice for health secretary has other ideas

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...129-story.html

President-elect Donald Trump reassured voters during his insurgent political campaign that he would protect Medicare, Social Security and other popular federal assistance programs.

But in tapping Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) to be his Health and Human Services secretary, he has elevated one of the most aggressive proponents of dramatically overhauling the government safety net for seniors and low-income Americans, a long-held conservative goal.

Trump also took a step toward a potentially explosive political battle over the entitlements, which account for close to half of all federal spending.

Such a battle — and the threat of benefit cuts to more than 100 million Americans — risks alienating some of the very working-class voters who fueled Trump’s unexpected victory. His advisors and prospective Cabinet already include several figures whose wealth and political connections are at odds with Trump’s populist rhetoric.
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Old 11-29-2016, 10:38 PM   #102
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Tom Price wants to replace Medicare with a voucher program and sharply cut federal Medicaid funding -- stark contrasts from what Trump promised on the campaign trail.

Trump pledged to protect Medicare. His choice for health secretary has other ideas

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...129-story.html

President-elect Donald Trump reassured voters during his insurgent political campaign that he would protect Medicare, Social Security and other popular federal assistance programs.

But in tapping Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) to be his Health and Human Services secretary, he has elevated one of the most aggressive proponents of dramatically overhauling the government safety net for seniors and low-income Americans, a long-held conservative goal.

Trump also took a step toward a potentially explosive political battle over the entitlements, which account for close to half of all federal spending.

Such a battle ó and the threat of benefit cuts to more than 100 million Americans ó risks alienating some of the very working-class voters who fueled Trumpís unexpected victory. His advisors and prospective Cabinet already include several figures whose wealth and political connections are at odds with Trumpís populist rhetoric.
Wow, so I guess he isn't angling for a second term. Probably just planning to refuse to vacate the office when his term is up...
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Old 11-30-2016, 07:26 AM   #103
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Yeah, he had to promise to protect Medicare during the campaign or he would have been routed by elderly voters. But, I can't imagine any congress, even a GOP congress, going along with this. It would be political suicide.
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Old 11-30-2016, 07:49 AM   #104
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Yeah, he had to promise to protect Medicare during the campaign or he would have been routed by elderly voters. But, I can't imagine any congress, even a GOP congress, going along with this. It would be political suicide.
So you would think.

But now that Eddie Munster and the TeaTards have taken the reins, all bets are off.
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:00 PM   #105
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Tom Price wants to replace Medicare with a voucher program and sharply cut federal Medicaid funding -- stark contrasts from what Trump promised on the campaign trail.

Trump pledged to protect Medicare. His choice for health secretary has other ideas

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...129-story.html

President-elect Donald Trump reassured voters during his insurgent political campaign that he would protect Medicare, Social Security and other popular federal assistance programs.

But in tapping Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) to be his Health and Human Services secretary, he has elevated one of the most aggressive proponents of dramatically overhauling the government safety net for seniors and low-income Americans, a long-held conservative goal.

Trump also took a step toward a potentially explosive political battle over the entitlements, which account for close to half of all federal spending.

Such a battle ó and the threat of benefit cuts to more than 100 million Americans ó risks alienating some of the very working-class voters who fueled Trumpís unexpected victory. His advisors and prospective Cabinet already include several figures whose wealth and political connections are at odds with Trumpís populist rhetoric.
Trump voters didn't support him for policy reasons. They supported him because he's a dick to people they don't like (illegal immigrants, Muslims, liberal elites, mainstream media, Black Lives Matter activists, politically correct college kids, etc.)
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:14 PM   #106
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Trump voters didn't support him for policy reasons. They supported him because he's a dick to people they don't like (illegal immigrants, Muslims, liberal elites, mainstream media, Black Lives Matter activists, politically correct college kids, etc.)
Curious you left out the biggest reason -- people lost their jobs in those rust belt states. The jobs went to China.

I'll list the states. W Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin.

These states -- and Florida -- won Trump the election.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:55 PM   #107
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‘This is really a bigger job than I thought’

Donald Trump doesn't quite know what to do while he comes to terms with the fact that the presidency is "a bigger job" than he realized.

So he's putting his work on hold and going on a road trip.

http://on.msnbc.com/2gl52XI
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:57 PM   #108
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Trump voters didn't support him for policy reasons. They supported him because he's a dick to people they don't like (illegal immigrants, Muslims, liberal elites, mainstream media, Black Lives Matter activists, politically correct college kids, etc.)
Bingo.

This is evident when Trump's policies don't match his campaign promises and the haters who voted for him still don't withdraw their support.

Reminiscent of Dubya.
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Curious you left out the biggest reason -- people lost their jobs in those rust belt states. The jobs went to China.

I'll list the states. W Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Wisconsin.

These states -- and Florida -- won Trump the election.
Those jobs are gone and never coming back.
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Those jobs are gone and never coming back.
But reelect the people that shipped them just to see what they come up with next?
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Here's a good read on the "anti-establishment" people Trump is filling his admin with (Roh posted this in another thread).

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...misinformation
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But reelect the people that shipped them just to see what they come up with next?
Politicians didn't cause the jobs to go. I'm not sure I follow your point.
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Politicians didn't cause the jobs to go. I'm not sure I follow your point.
Free trade with China certainly didn't help.
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Old 12-01-2016, 09:19 AM   #114
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The working people who had a legitimate reason to be outraged by an establishment that doesn't care if they live or die committed suicide by ballot.
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Old 12-01-2016, 09:33 AM   #115
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The working people who had a legitimate reason to be outraged by an establishment that doesn't care if they live or die committed suicide by ballot.
Um...you must have missed the Carrier thread.

You're settling nicely into the "cantankerous old coot" role.
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Medicare costs have been rising exponentially ever since 1965. It's the single most expensive government "program" in the history of mankind. Obviously unworkable and massively over-priced. It's no surprise that these same idiots refuse to let someone try to fix it.
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Medicare costs have been rising exponentially ever since 1965. It's the single most expensive government "program" in the history of mankind. Obviously unworkable and massively over-priced. It's no surprise that these same idiots refuse to let someone try to fix it.
How do you propose they fix it?

Soylent Green?
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How do you propose they fix it?

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By putting the money in the hands of the people.
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1. In the last 8 years the US had racked up $10T in debt.
2. There are 300M people in the US.
3. That's $33K for every single person.
4. For a family of four, that's $132K.

Imagine that.
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By putting the money in the hands of the people.
What money? Which people?
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What money? Which people?
1. Taxpayer money
2. Medicare recipients
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That in fact is how he sees them, as useful idiots and commodities necessary only to elevate his own power.

Conning the millions of simpletons eager to swallow his white nationalist pablum is one thing, but actually knowing how to govern and solve problems is an entirely different matter. This moron has no actual defined strategy or platform and his ability to form a workable set of policy approaches that will satisfy his hateful dregs is basically going to be non-existent.
Most people know this. He doesn't have ideas or any agenda. He wants 10 people to come up with different ideas and then he'll pick the best one that sounds good to him. He'll be a YES and NO president.

I don't think he ever truly expected to win. He wanted popularity, recognition, and fame. It actually is going to take work to be president. I think he'll get bored of it rather fast. Too much of a demand of his time.
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Most people know this. He doesn't have ideas or any agenda. He wants 10 people to come up with different ideas and then he'll pick the best one that sounds good to him. He'll be a YES and NO president.

I don't think he ever truly expected to win. He wanted popularity, recognition, and fame. It actually is going to take work to be president. I think he'll get bored of it rather fast. Too much of a demand of his time.
No. You have it all wrong. Being President is not difficult. President can't create legislation, or bills, or budgets. All the President does is sign, or veto legislation. Trump wanted to help America. And he's going to do it to the best of his ability. Trump is a manager, and he's starting by surrounding himself with a cabinet of the best people he can find for the job

You seem to have some highly twisted view of the importance and duty of the position of POTUS. It's like you think POTUS is supposed to be a king or something.
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No. You have it all wrong. Being President is not difficult. President can't create legislation, or bills, or budgets. All the President does is sign, or veto legislation. Trump wanted to help America. And he's going to do it to the best of his ability. Trump is a manager, and he's starting by surrounding himself with a cabinet of the best people he can find for the job

You seem to have some highly twisted view of the importance and duty of the position of POTUS. It's like you think POTUS is supposed to be a king or something.
I seem to think the POTUS should be like a king because I think the POTUS should give a damn about the job and have some ideas or policy? Yeah, you're right, all the POTUS does is sit at his desk and sign stuff. Don't you have some conspiracy theory to research?
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