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Old 06-18-2018, 03:04 PM   #26
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It's ok the homeless still get their heroine free lol


Seattle is currently looking spend $2-4 Million a year for a heroin van. They want to provide a safe non-judgemental place form homeless hipsters to shoot up.

King county currently gives free needles, which litter the streets, parks and kids pools of Seattle. King County will not prosecute most drug crimes. Seattle is currently trying to create safe injections sites (heroin dens) You are probably right the next step will be to give free heroin. Human right to have save heroin and all....
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Seattle is currently looking spend $2-4 Million a year for a heroin van. They want to provide a safe non-judgemental place form homeless hipsters to shoot up.

King county currently gives free needles, which litter the streets, parks and kids pools of Seattle. King County will not prosecute most drug crimes. Seattle is currently trying to create safe injections sites (heroin dens) You are probably right the next step will be to give free heroin. Human right to have save heroin and all....
Let's break it down shall we?
Free needles prevent disease from spreading. Pence and friends went away from that in Indiana and created an HIV epidemic among other things.

Safe injection sites reduce the amount of public use and reduces needles in public spaces. It also brings them to spots where you can encourage rehab or generally help them. It also reduces emergency vehicles being used to respond to O.Ds in public where you can give them treatment for an O.D at a center right away.

And instead of jail, parts of Seattle in areas like Belltown are given the option of rehab and counciling or go to jail for users, not dealers.

You are criticizing the city for doing things that are easy to judge on the outside, but when you actually look into it, serves a purpose to try and alleviate this issue while the whole country struggles with drug abuse. If you have a better idea for this issue, give the Seattle council a call.
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Old 06-18-2018, 03:49 PM   #28
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So, instead of companies like Amazon and Sprawl-Mart subsidizing the serfs, you and your fellow tax payers will continue to do it.
Like most every other thread, you are showing you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Maybe you should read more and post less.

So this thread is about Seattle local taxes.
  1. Seattle was one of the first cities to inact the so-called living wage $15 minimum wage.
  2. There are no Walmarts in Seattle. Nimby progressives aggressively fought Walmart as they expanded into the area.
  3. Bezos is a liberal POS, who treats his blue collar workers like crap. Bezos will eventually replaced all his low skill workers with machines. That said, Amazon has already worked with local charity Mary's Place to set up one homeless shelter in a motel Amazon bought. They are working to build a 6 floor shelter in their new HQ building.
Business and charities like, Mary's Place (with help Amazon), Youthcare (with help form Amazon), Union Gospel Mission, Bread of Life Mission and many others are working on the causes of Homelessness.

Seattle government is actually creating programs to keep people homeless. They are building camps that they call low barrier because they allow people to do drugs in their government provided plywood shacks. In exchange for shelter they can volunteer to join protests and carry signs created by the city council. They are facilitating heroin use. They are also looking the other way with crimes commited by the homeless.
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:19 PM   #29
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Like most every other thread, you are showing you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. Maybe you should read more and post less.

So this thread is about Seattle local taxes.
  1. Seattle was one of the first cities to inact the so-called living wage $15 minimum wage.
  2. There are no Walmarts in Seattle. Nimby progressives aggressively fought Walmart as they expanded into the area.
  3. Bezos is a liberal POS, who treats his blue collar workers like crap. Bezos will eventually replaced all his low skill workers with machines. That said, Amazon has already worked with local charity Mary's Place to set up one homeless shelter in a motel Amazon bought. They are working to build a 6 floor shelter in their new HQ building.
Business and charities like, Mary's Place (with help Amazon), Youthcare (with help form Amazon), Union Gospel Mission, Bread of Life Mission and many others are working on the causes of Homelessness.

Seattle government is actually creating programs to keep people homeless. They are building camps that they call low barrier because they allow people to do drugs in their government provided plywood shacks. In exchange for shelter they can volunteer to join protests and carry signs created by the city council. They are facilitating heroin use. They are also looking the other way with crimes commited by the homeless.
Your comprehension game is ****ed up.

The point is that the conservative idiots who are complaining about what's happening in Seattle are fine with the same tax issues in their own states and municipalities when their favorite corporations, e.g., Walmart, are the beneficiaries.
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Let's break it down shall we?
Free needles prevent disease from spreading. Pence and friends went away from that in Indiana and created an HIV epidemic among other things.

Safe injection sites reduce the amount of public use and reduces needles in public spaces. It also brings them to spots where you can encourage rehab or generally help them. It also reduces emergency vehicles being used to respond to O.Ds in public where you can give them treatment for an O.D at a center right away.

And instead of jail, parts of Seattle in areas like Belltown are given the option of rehab and counciling or go to jail for users, not dealers.

You are criticizing the city for doing things that are easy to judge on the outside, but when you actually look into it, serves a purpose to try and alleviate this issue while the whole country struggles with drug abuse. If you have a better idea for this issue, give the Seattle council a call.
Mecklomaniac suffers from the kind of stupid you can't fix.
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Old 06-19-2018, 07:11 PM   #31
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So kids are getting stuck with heroin needles in the parks.
Local pediatricians homepages have information on what to do if your kid gets poked with a dirty needle.
City wading pool drained because of heroin needles.
Employees of local businesses poked cleaning up trash
Needles on the sidewalks, playgrounds,beaches parks.
Couple of weeks ago Seattle cleaned up 30 tons of garbage and hazmat from homeless camps.


Finally today the city has had enough.

Seattle City council has announced that the plastic straw and fork ban will go into place July 1st...


Waiting for the strawman from LABF
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:33 PM   #32
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Drawing on more than a decade of studies, the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA) in 2017 concluded that supervised drug consumption facilities led to “safer use for clients” and “wider health and public order benefits.” Among those benefits: reductions in risky behavior that can lead to HIV or hepatitis C transmission through shared needles, drops in drug-related deaths and emergency service call-outs related to overdoses, and greater uptake in drug addiction treatment, including highly effective medications for opioid addiction.

Despite concerns that the facilities would draw more drug users to an area and cause disorder, the research suggests, according to the EMCDDA, that these facilities lead to less public injecting and fewer syringes discarded in the area — both of which can benefit local communities. The facilities also weren’t linked to higher crime in Sydney, Australia, or Vancouver, Canada — and, in fact, were linked to reduced street disorder and encounters with police.

“These services facilitate rather than delay treatment entry and do not result in higher rates of local drug-related crime,” EMCDDA concluded.

Researchers at the Lankenau Institute for Medical Research in Pennsylvania conducted another review of the evidence for Philadelphia. They produced similar findings as the EMCDDA.

But they went further, developing models to quantify how many drug overdose deaths could be prevented and how much money could be saved with a supervised consumption facility in Philadelphia. They found that as many as 76 drug overdose deaths annually could be prevented, compared to the 907 deadly drug overdoses in Philadelphia in 2016. And in terms of skin and soft tissue infections alone, the city would save as much as $1.8 million in hospitalization costs each year, according to the review.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...t-quit/545552/
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Stories about plutocrats winning and wealth inequality widening give "Pony Boy" a chub.
I agree with this in general, but remember: Chubb is a good thing around here now.
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So kids are getting stuck with heroin needles in the parks.
Local pediatricians homepages have information on what to do if your kid gets poked with a dirty needle.
City wading pool drained because of heroin needles.
Employees of local businesses poked cleaning up trash
Needles on the sidewalks, playgrounds,beaches parks.
Couple of weeks ago Seattle cleaned up 30 tons of garbage and hazmat from homeless camps.


Finally today the city has had enough.

Seattle City council has announced that the plastic straw and fork ban will go into place July 1st...


Waiting for the strawman from LABF
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Speaking of straw men, WTF does this have to do with the OP?
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