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Archer81 · 04-20-2014, 07:02 PM

Dany is pretty awesome.

StugotsIII · 04-20-2014, 07:07 PM

Eh....Episode was ok.

I'm actually not all that happy with Dani's storyline from here on in the books. It just totally bogs down...

broncolife · 04-20-2014, 10:48 PM

Boring episode. Too much Sam and Gilly. I thought it was funny how they were making some characters more dislikable right before they get rid of them.

Archer81 · 04-21-2014, 06:13 AM

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Wow, surprised at the tepid reaction. This was my favorite episode so far this season. Thought every scene was great... aside from the start of the Oberyn/Tywin scene.

He's bi and oversexed. We get it. They decided to focus on that far more heavily than his poisoning history (which wasn't mentioned at all before this one) and would have left Purple Wedding viewers with more intrigue.

I think HBO could have found a different reason to crowbar some dick into a scene if they really felt it was necessary.

It's HBO. They do not need a reason. And for balance they did start that scene with lesbian action.

Loved the Poderick/Tyrion scene, Tywin lecturing his grandson on what makes a good king over Joffrey's corpse and Daenryus' scene.

v2micca · 04-21-2014, 07:22 AM

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Arya and the Hound was terrific. The Wildling raid was awesome. Jaime raping Cersei was a touch different but that whole scene from Tywin on was awesome... their set for the Sept was simply unbelievable.

The Jaimie Cersei scene kind of caught me off guard. It had been a while since I read the books but I don't remember that scene being rapey in the books. I went back and re-read it and I guess it was ambiguous enough that you could interpret it as rape. But, if the goal was to continue the redemption of the Jaimie Lanister character, they writers and directors just took a huge step backwards.

spdirty · 04-21-2014, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by v2micca

The Jaimie Cersei scene kind of caught me off guard. It had been a while since I read the books but I don't remember that scene being rapey in the books. I went back and re-read it and I guess it was ambiguous enough that you could interpret it as rape. But, if the goal was to continue the redemption of the Jaimie Lanister character, they writers and directors just took a huge step backwards.

He raped Cersei though so it wasn't as bad.

Kings Landing is screwed. He just needs to learn to fight with Bronn then take off with Bri and insult each other, screw every now and then, and have adventures with her.

Kaylore · 04-21-2014, 08:19 AM

I gotta be careful how I say this, but I didn't think Jaime really raped her - in the book or how they showed it. I know, "No means no, Khan" but she was kissing him back and her protests seemed more concerned with the fact they were in the sept than she didn't want to do it. It felt like a step in Jaime re-taking his mojo.

Also felt Lena Headey looked like Keira Knightly in that scene.

Taco John · 04-21-2014, 08:56 AM

"There was too much character development in this one. Where is all the death? Yawn."

v2micca · 04-21-2014, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I gotta be careful how I say this, but I didn't think Jaime really raped her - in the book or how they showed it. I know, "No means no, Khan" but she was kissing him back and her protests seemed more concerned with the fact they were in the sept than she didn't want to do it. It felt like a step in Jaime re-taking his mojo.

Also felt Lena Headey looked like Keira Knightly in that scene.

Its going to be a controversial scene, no doubt. And regardless if you think it was rape or not, it is a whole lot worse looking in the TV show than it was in the book.

IndelibleScribe · 04-21-2014, 09:20 AM

Cersei wasn't raped. Her protests were due to them being next to their son's dead body.
She barely tried to stop him. Her harshest protests were when he was ripping her dress to make room for spearing her.

Drunk Monkey · 04-21-2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

Cersei wasn't raped. Her protests were due to them being next to their son's dead body.
She barely tried to stop him. Her harshest protests were when he was ripping her dress to make room for spearing her.

idk, it looked pretty rapey to me. Definitely much worst then what I remember from the book.

Johnykbr · 04-21-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by v2micca

But, if the goal was to continue the redemption of the Jaimie Lanister character, they writers and directors just took a huge step backwards.

I think this was their attempt to balance him since they lack an inner-monologue to show that Jaime still is a pretty nasty guy. For quite awhile now he has been made to look too positive but I agree, this was an odd route to take.

Bronc0guy · 04-21-2014, 10:49 AM

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Also felt Lena Headey looked like Keira Knightly in that scene.

I thought so too. The way her lower jaw was sticking out when she was talking at one point was identical to Knightly in POTC.

All in all I thought it was a good episode. There were some really strong scenes with the Wildlings, Dany, and the Hound\Arya. Of course nothing was going to match last week with Joffrey dying, but that was to be expected.

24champ · 04-21-2014, 11:02 AM

Interesting developments in this episode.

Also remind me, who are the Judges for Tyrion's trial? Tywin Lannister and Oberyn, who else?

Requiem · 04-21-2014, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 24champ

Interesting developments in this episode.

Also remind me, who are the Judges for Tyrion's trial? Tywin Lannister and Oberyn, who else?

Oleg?

BroncoMan4ever · 04-21-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by v2micca

The Jaimie Cersei scene kind of caught me off guard. It had been a while since I read the books but I don't remember that scene being rapey in the books. I went back and re-read it and I guess it was ambiguous enough that you could interpret it as rape. But, if the goal was to continue the redemption of the Jaimie Lanister character, they writers and directors just took a huge step backwards.

My thinking exactly. Jaime was becoming a good man in the eyes of many viewers. He was showing himself to be more than what he is thought of and that one scene, even though Cercei is a horrible person just destroyed his redemption story. Now he is again just the a-hole Jaime Lannister instead of the troubled good man.

Also Daario was a ****ing boss.

JLesSPE · 04-21-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

My thinking exactly. Jaime was becoming a good man in the eyes of many viewers. He was showing himself to be more than what he is thought of and that one scene, even though Cercei is a horrible person just destroyed his redemption story. Now he is again just the a-hole Jaime Lannister instead of the troubled good man.

Also Daario was a ****ing boss.

That was a cool scene, but I kind of wish they had kept Strong Belwas in the story line. That was a pretty funny part in the book.

Johnykbr · 04-21-2014, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JLesSPE

That was a cool scene, but I kind of wish they had kept Strong Belwas in the story line. That was a pretty funny part in the book.

Strong Belwas is amazing and is one of the main reasons I always tell people to read the books if they enjoy the show. Sure, he's a minor character but goddam does he bring it.

Drunk Monkey · 04-21-2014, 12:04 PM

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Strong Belwas is amazing and is one of the main reasons I always tell people to read the books if they enjoy the show. Sure, he's a minor character but goddam does he bring it.

The man likes his liver and onions.

BroncoMan4ever · 04-21-2014, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JLesSPE

That was a cool scene, but I kind of wish they had kept Strong Belwas in the story line. That was a pretty funny part in the book.

True. Although I don't know how the viewing audience would have felt about a big fat guy dropping a deuce and then wiping his ass on on the cloak of the guy he just killed

JLesSPE · 04-21-2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

True. Although I don't know how the viewing audience would have felt about a big fat guy dropping a deuce and then wiping his ass on on the cloak of the guy he just killed

That would've been epic

Johnykbr · 04-21-2014, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

I must be missing something. He bored me. Maybe it's because that whole Dany segment he's in is boring and it bleeds into the characters for me too.

He was the only person that made 90 percent of the Dani chapters tolerable to me. Anyone who takes a dump on a guy's head after decapitating him gets my automatic attention for at least several books.

elsid13 · 04-21-2014, 02:21 PM

The whole switching actors for Daario still throws me for a loop.

Boobs McGee · 04-21-2014, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

I don't care about balance. I care about emphasizing the actual plot as opposed to wasting time beating a dead horse just to crowbar in some more boobies and dick.

Arya and the Hound was terrific. The Wildling raid was awesome. Jaime raping Cersei was a touch different but that whole scene from Tywin on was awesome... their set for the Sept was simply unbelievable.

NSFW LANGUAGE!!!

But pretty hilarious and accurate:

SleepingTiger · 04-22-2014, 06:38 AM

like someone said earlier, why so much emphasis on sam and gilly?
dammit, where are all the good boob scenes?

for those who didn't read the book, who poisoned the king? all fingers are pointing at tywin. he knows he can't control joeffery and he knows joeffery would be the doom of westeros. so he has him killed and molds his younger brother into the king he outta be.

im shocked that tywin is not protecting tyrion. he is after all a lannister.

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04-20-2014, 07:02 PM	#1851
Archer81 Optimum Homo Tactical Neck. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 26,839	Dany is pretty awesome.

04-20-2014, 07:07 PM	#1852
StugotsIII O-H Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,506 Adopt-a-Bronco: Your Mom	Eh....Episode was ok. I'm actually not all that happy with Dani's storyline from here on in the books. It just totally bogs down...

04-20-2014, 10:48 PM	#1853
broncolife Nut Hugger Detector Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 4,871 Adopt-a-Bronco: Andy Janovich	Boring episode. Too much Sam and Gilly. I thought it was funny how they were making some characters more dislikable right before they get rid of them.

04-21-2014, 08:19 AM	#1857
Kaylore Three Lombardis This one's for Pat Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 53,874 Adopt-a-Bronco: Pat Bowlen	I gotta be careful how I say this, but I didn't think Jaime really raped her - in the book or how they showed it. I know, "No means no, Khan" but she was kissing him back and her protests seemed more concerned with the fact they were in the sept than she didn't want to do it. It felt like a step in Jaime re-taking his mojo. Also felt Lena Headey looked like Keira Knightly in that scene.

04-21-2014, 08:56 AM	#1858
Taco John 24/7 Broncos X-FACTOR Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 52,996 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	"There was too much character development in this one. Where is all the death? Yawn."

04-21-2014, 09:20 AM	#1860
IndelibleScribe Oreo Lucian Rockefeller Commitment or Fear Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 38,594	Cersei wasn't raped. Her protests were due to them being next to their son's dead body. She barely tried to stop him. Her harshest protests were when he was ripping her dress to make room for spearing her.

04-21-2014, 11:02 AM	#1864
24champ Obi-Wan Phillips Keep Calm and Chive on Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nakatomi Plaza Posts: 23,411 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandstarter	Interesting developments in this episode. Also remind me, who are the Judges for Tyrion's trial? Tywin Lannister and Oberyn, who else?

04-21-2014, 02:21 PM	#1873
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 22,811	The whole switching actors for Daario still throws me for a loop.

04-22-2014, 06:38 AM	#1875
SleepingTiger Ring of Famer Ole J Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lucas TX Posts: 3,505 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jamal Charles	like someone said earlier, why so much emphasis on sam and gilly? dammit, where are all the good boob scenes? for those who didn't read the book, who poisoned the king? all fingers are pointing at tywin. he knows he can't control joeffery and he knows joeffery would be the doom of westeros. so he has him killed and molds his younger brother into the king he outta be. im shocked that tywin is not protecting tyrion. he is after all a lannister.