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Old 02-16-2017, 11:17 AM   #126
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I think people hear what they want to on either side. I personally never expected it to be some quick deal. And if it was I would expect that to be terrible. If they just left the whole thing in place and removed the regulatory load even that would be a huge help. The regulations we create in this country are strangling production.
The main problem is theres too much profit in the industry. America let that happen and, once that cat is out of the bag, you're never getting it back in. We're screwed either way.
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:17 PM   #127
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Is anybody watching this Trump presser? He's like a pig in sh*t and the media is utterly confused about it all. This dude is either insane in the membrane, doesn't give a ****, or is a genius at playing this game.

'Drugs are now cheaper than candy bars...'

Media is losing their sh*t over that. Of course, when Obama said buying a Glock was easier than getting a library book, nobody batted an eyelash.


Total sh*t show.
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Is anybody watching this Trump presser? He's like a pig in sh*t and the media is utterly confused about it all. This dude is either insane in the membrane, doesn't give a ****, or is a genius at playing this game.

'Drugs are now cheaper than candy bars...'

Media is losing their sh*t over that. Of course, when Obama said buying a Glock was easier than getting a library book, nobody batted an eyelash.


Total sh*t show.
He was criticized for that line. But stop comparing the two. Even if you don't like Obama, he's an intelligent adult. This other guy is a loon.
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Old 02-16-2017, 01:06 PM   #129
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The main problem is theres too much profit in the industry. America let that happen and, once that cat is out of the bag, you're never getting it back in. We're screwed either way.
Technology- We will have virtual drs and pharmacists in no time. Actually a redbox machine for most prescriptions would be faster and better.

A virtual dr would not have the bias of a real one and could process new information instantly. I mean who doesn't search their symptoms on the web before they go to the hospital now?
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He was criticized for that line. But stop comparing the two. Even if you don't like Obama, he's an intelligent adult. This other guy is a loon.
Yeah, just don't ask him how many states there are
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He was criticized for that line. But stop comparing the two. Even if you don't like Obama, he's an intelligent adult. This other guy is a loon.
Everyone's intelligence is in different areas.

I'd put Obama's knowledge of firearms right up there with Trump's take on street drugs.
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Old 02-16-2017, 04:13 PM   #132
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Everyone's intelligence is in different areas.

I'd put Obama's knowledge of firearms right up there with Trump's take on street drugs.
lol, you really need to stop trying to compare Trump and Obama. Did you see that news conference today? Trump is in completely over his head. He's an idiot and a lunatic. Not fit for office. Any hopes that the office would make the man were futile. He's the same guy we saw during the campaign. I know you desperately want to be "right" that he's "not that bad" and somehow "better" than Obama or Hillary. But you're not. You and anyone who voted for him and/or keeps apologizing for him are and were wrong. You just need to come to grips with it, move on, and hope for the best. It's going to be a long, bumpy ride.
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lol, you really need to stop trying to compare Trump and Obama. Did you see that news conference today? Trump is in completely over his head. He's an idiot and a lunatic. Not fit for office. Any hopes that the office would make the man were futile. He's the same guy we saw during the campaign. I know you desperately want to be "right" that he's "not that bad" and somehow "better" than Obama or Hillary. But you're not. You and anyone who voted for him and/or keeps apologizing for him are and were wrong. You just need to come to grips with it, move on, and hope for the best. It's going to be a long, bumpy ride.
Thats what they don't get. Sure, we disagree with Trumps politics (however they continue to change), but we hate him because he's mentally incompetent, completely in over his head, and has shown zero desire to put in any sort of work.
Obama, regardless of your opinion of him, is intelligent and has an intellectual curiosity. Trump is a blowhard who just wanted to win. He has no interest in actually governing.
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lol, you really need to stop trying to compare Trump and Obama. Did you see that news conference today? Trump is in completely over his head. He's an idiot and a lunatic. Not fit for office. Any hopes that the office would make the man were futile. He's the same guy we saw during the campaign. I know you desperately want to be "right" that he's "not that bad" and somehow "better" than Obama or Hillary. But you're not. You and anyone who voted for him and/or keeps apologizing for him are and were wrong. You just need to come to grips with it, move on, and hope for the best. It's going to be a long, bumpy ride.
He's not 'better' than Obama. Never said so. Although on matters of foreign policy, it's not clear yet whether he can really be much worse.

As I said before and will say again. Voting for either Hillary or Trump was a fool's errand. Likely both rolling disasters, but for widely different reasons. All the uprisiing you see from the bureaucracy today would've instead been complacent, accommodating, corrupt silence in the hands of the Clinton machine.

As I said all along, the best bet on Trump is he'll be frustrated at every level and not amount to much. Nobody believed that about Hillary. But it was what she'd 'accomplish' you really had to worry about.
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CNN ✔ @CNN
GOP lawmakers react to "riveting television" of Trump's press conference: "We're just trying to manage this s***" http://cnn.it/2lQK074
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Everyone's intelligence is in different areas.

I'd put Obama's knowledge of firearms right up there with Trump's take on street drugs.
So, you're honestly saying that when you see Trump speak, you think... "Theres an intelligent, mentally fit man"
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He's not 'better' than Obama. Never said so. Although on matters of foreign policy, it's not clear yet whether he can really be much worse.

As I said before and will say again. Voting for either Hillary or Trump was a fool's errand. Likely both rolling disasters, but for widely different reasons. All the uprisiing you see from the bureaucracy today would've instead been complacent, accommodating, corrupt silence in the hands of the Clinton machine.

As I said all along, the best bet on Trump is he'll be frustrated at every level and not amount to much. Nobody believed that about Hillary. But it was what she'd 'accomplish' you really had to worry about.
I honestly think that if you think Hillary was an dangerous as whatever this is, you're an idiot.

And i'm no huge fan of hillary.
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So, you're honestly saying that when you see Trump speak, you think... "Theres an intelligent, mentally fit man"
No, but I often find people who don't have a polished, apparent level of intelligence at first glance often have a different kind of intelligence in some other area that goes overlooked.

Although in this case, I'm mostly just making fun of the idea of President Obama having much intelligence at all when it came to firearms. He came off like everything he'd learned about them was told to him by people that hated them.
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I honestly think that if you think Hillary was an dangerous as whatever this is, you're an idiot.

And i'm no huge fan of hillary.
Hillary Hawk + The surveillance state and widespread corruption.

I'm not sold that's any less dangerous than a government largely at odds with itself.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:56 PM   #140
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No, but...
After "but" comes BS, as the old adage goes.

When the wheels finally come of the crazy train, do you really want to be remembered as a guy who hitched your wagon to it?
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https://apnews.com/5508111d59554a33be8001bdac4ef830

AP: Trump may send up to 100K National Guardsmen to round up unauthorized immigrants

So this is a thing that might happen
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https://apnews.com/5508111d59554a33be8001bdac4ef830

AP: Trump may send up to 100K National Guardsmen to round up unauthorized immigrants

So this is a thing that might happen
DHS denies it.
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DHS denies it.
"The draft document has circulated among DHS staff over the last two weeks. As recently as Friday, staffers in several different offices reported discussions were underway."

I would assume they would deny it, and it will actually never happen (I hope) but it seems like this was drafted up by someone in a high capacity at the least.
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Oh and it was Spicer that said it was false from DHS and WH? That dude can't tell the truth to save his life, I need a better source than that.
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Oh and it was Spicer that said it was false from DHS and WH? That dude can't tell the truth to save his life, I need a better source than that.
DHS (the agency in charge of immigration enforcement) spokespeople also deny it.
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DHS (the agency in charge of immigration enforcement) spokespeople also deny it.
Some were rounded up by Obama, but notice not much concern at the time.
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I know they won't actually put it into place because it would be a nightmare PR stunt, but it seems like the draft did get leaked:

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...raft-Memo.html

Also, does this mean Spicer and the DHS lied? Because it may seem that way after this evidence got leaked out.

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Here are two of the executive orders to fight human and drug trafficking. Nothing vague here - -these orders are pretty unambiguous.

No wonder the CIA is at war with Trump.

This order creates a task force to study the crime issue and make recommendations.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...ion-and-public

This order states Trump's policy on human and drug trafficking. It's clear he intends to halt both scourges of our world.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...-transnational
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Here are two of the executive orders to fight human and drug trafficking. Nothing vague here - -these orders are pretty unambiguous.

No wonder the CIA is at war with Trump.

This order creates a task force to study the crime issue and make recommendations.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...ion-and-public

This order states Trump's policy on human and drug trafficking. It's clear he intends to halt both scourges of our world.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...-transnational
Great news MHG. Thanks for posting!
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