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Old 06-16-2018, 02:52 AM   #1
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Default 1,995 children separated from families at border under 'zero tolerance' policy

That's approximately 46 children a day over a six-week period.



The Trump administration separated 1,995 children from 1,940 adults from April 19 to May 31, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security said Friday.

The administration's "zero tolerance" policy, which was announced by the Department of Justice in April, separates children from their parents or legal guardians because the adults have been referred to DHS for prosecution for illegal entry into the United States. That's approximately 46 children per day, over a six-week period.

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Separating parents from children was rare under the Obama administration and in the early part of the Trump administration, usually reserved only for cases where the safety of a child was in question. Nearly 1,800 immigrant families were separated over 17 months prior to February, according to a Reuters report.

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions has forcefully defended the policy, which has been criticized by Democrats, Republicans, Christian groups and medical doctors, who said Friday that the children separated from their parents could suffer permanent damage.

On Thursday, Sessions told a group of law enforcement officers that the migrant families were to blame for their own break-ups and that his department's actions were not "unusual or unjustified."

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Twitler's concentration camps for kids.

This tour of a child prison for boys torn from their immigrant parents is breathtakingly horrifying



I would say there are no words to describe the horrors of this child prison in Brownsville, TX, but that’s not true. Really, there are no printable words that can do justice to this unconscionably evil center of injustice.

The video and photos, which ran on MSNBC and Twitter tonight, are not easy to look at. But it’s absolutely necessary. There are 1500 boys ages 10-17 who are more or less incarcerated in an old Walmart, all because their parents wanted to give them a better life. It’s horrifying.

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Now Twitler is trying to use other people's kids as political bargaining chips...



Trump cites as a negotiating tool his policy of separating immigrant children from their parents

President Trump has calculated that he will gain political leverage in congressional negotiations by continuing to enforce a policy he claims to hate — separating immigrant parents from their young children at the southern border, according to White House officials.

On Friday, Trump suggested he would not change the policy unless Democrats agreed to his other immigration demands, which include funding a border wall, tightening the rules for border enforcement and curbing legal entry. He also is intent on pushing members of his party to vote for a compromise measure that would achieve those long-standing priorities.
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We didn't separate children from their parents during the Japanese internment in WW2. Somehow we have sunk to a new low as a nation. History will look at these acts with disgust.

Everyone of us should be deeply ashamed that we have arrived at this point.

Also whether this started under Trump, Obama, or Bush is irrelevant. This is a moral outrage. That it has come to light and is now known to us means we must act to stop it.

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We didn't separate children from their parents during the Japanese internment in WW2. Somehow we have sunk to a new low as a nation. History will look at these acts with disgust.

Everyone of us should be deeply ashamed that we have arrived at this point.

Also whether this started under Trump, Obama, or Bush is irrelevant. This is a moral outrage. That it has come to light and is now known to us means we must act to stop it.
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Where was the outrage from you guys when Obama did it?

https://www.themaven.net/theresurgen...k-iUfpdiPIbJQ/
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Friggin' retard doesn't understand the difference between a shelter care facility for unaccompanied children and a concentration camp where children who have been forcibly separated from their parents are kept in dog kennels.

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Where was the outrage from you guys when Obama did it?

https://www.themaven.net/theresurgen...k-iUfpdiPIbJQ/
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But the facts of the report should not overshadow that Barack Obama also separated children from parents at the border in some cases. It was not common and Donald Trump seeks to make it the policy default, instead of the exception. But it happened.
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Ooops!

Sounds like Plantation Jeff might have misjudged the base this time...

Christian Leaders To Jeff Sessions: The Bible Does Not Justify Separating Families

“It goes against pretty much the entire Bible in the ethos of Jesus, and it’s deeply un-Christian.”

WASHINGTON ― Attorney General Jeff Sessions seems to think Jesus would love his policy of separating immigrant families at the border.

Christian leaders say otherwise.

“While protecting our borders is important, we can and must do better as a government, and as a society, to find other ways to ensure that safety,” Cardinal Daniel Nicholas DiNardo, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said in a statement. ”Separating babies from their mothers is not the answer and is immoral.”

“Disgraceful,” the Rev. Franklin Graham, son of the late and influential Rev. Billy Graham and a supporter of President Donald Trump, said in a Tuesday interview. “It’s terrible to see families ripped apart, and I don’t support that one bit.”

Even Sessions’ own church, the United Methodist Church, is rejecting what he is doing.

“Tearing children away from parents who have made a dangerous journey to provide a safe and sufficient life for them is unnecessarily cruel and detrimental to the well-being of parents and children,” reads a statement signed by Bishop Kenneth Carter, president of the Council of Bishops of the United Methodist Church.

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Friggin' retard doesn't understand the difference between a shelter care facility for unaccompanied children and a concentration camp where children who have been forcibly separated from their parents are kept in dog kennels.

Still, he giggles about it. I'm wondering how many Canadians kids have been separated from their parents when illegally entering? But, brown kids aren't quite as important, are they 69 to you and your kind.

And President WTF says the Dem's are to blame because they won't give him all the money for his wall. That's for the incredibly stupid, like 69.
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That's approximately 46 children a day over a six-week period.



The Trump administration separated 1,995 children from 1,940 adults from April 19 to May 31, a spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security said Friday.

The administration's "zero tolerance" policy, which was announced by the Department of Justice in April, separates children from their parents or legal guardians because the adults have been referred to DHS for prosecution for illegal entry into the United States. That's approximately 46 children per day, over a six-week period.

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Separating parents from children was rare under the Obama administration and in the early part of the Trump administration, usually reserved only for cases where the safety of a child was in question. Nearly 1,800 immigrant families were separated over 17 months prior to February, according to a Reuters report.

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions has forcefully defended the policy, which has been criticized by Democrats, Republicans, Christian groups and medical doctors, who said Friday that the children separated from their parents could suffer permanent damage.

On Thursday, Sessions told a group of law enforcement officers that the migrant families were to blame for their own break-ups and that his department's actions were not "unusual or unjustified."

Full: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...m_npd_ms_fb_ma
This is actually simple. You want to keep your family together do not break the law with them in tow.

If you robbed a store, hit and run, assaulted someone etc with your kids guess what ..you are going to be separated from your kids. Don’t ILLEGALLY cross the border and you have nothing to worry about.
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This is actually simple. You want to keep your family together do not break the law with them in tow.

If you robbed a store, hit and run, assaulted someone etc with your kids guess what ..you are going to be separated from your kids. Don’t ILLEGALLY cross the border and you have nothing to worry about.
We prohibit cruel and unusual punishment which this is.

Any difference in the nature of this crime and your comaprator offenses perhaps?

Also this Has been applied to asylum seekers. Seeking asylum at a port of entry to the US is not a crime.
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Where's the news of the bleeding hearts taking these families in?

Step it up, social justice warriors!
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Where's the news of the bleeding hearts taking these families in?

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We prohibit cruel and unusual punishment which this is.

Any difference in the nature of this crime and your comaprator offenses perhaps?

Also this Has been applied to asylum seekers. Seeking asylum at a port of entry to the US is not a crime.
Trumpublican Tiki torchbearers like DBJM are too simple-minded and too myopic in their hatred of scary migrant farm workers to understand the facts you listed.

To these racists and xenophobes, it makes no difference that the punishment doesn't fit the "crime." No punishment is too severe in their thinking.

This attitude should come as no surprise as these are the same people who routinely defend extrajudicial executions of black people who sell cigarettes on street corners or who "fail to follow police instructions."
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Step it up, social justice warriors!
Riiiight.

Unless you take one of these families in, then you are not right to object to the mistreatment and abuse of children on moral grounds.

What a ****ing idiotic argument.
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Even Twitler's own DOJ isn't backing this lie...

Trump’s DOJ Contradicts His Claim That Democrats Are to Blame for Family Separation

Donald Trump is eager to blame someone else for his administration’s brutal policy of separating immigrant children from their parents at the border. The president has repeatedly blamed Democrats for the practice, declaring that “their law” requires a family separation policy and even tweeting that Democrats themselves are “forcing the breakup of families at the Border.” Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders has affirmed Trump’s position, insisting that family separation is “the law, and that’s what the law states.” House Speaker Paul Ryan agreed, claiming that the administration was merely following a court ruling.

These allegations, of course, are absolutely false. There is simply no law or court order that requires the U.S. government to snatch children, including babies and toddlers, from their parents. Indeed, Trump’s own Department of Justice—headed by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who vigorously defends family separation—has acknowledged in court that Trump and Sessions created the policy. These documents plainly reveal what Trump wishes to deny: He is the reason for the forced breakup of these families, and he can halt it anytime he pleases.

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Where's the news of the bleeding hearts taking these families in?

Step it up, social justice warriors!
Yup these bleeding hearts are the only ones who want ethical treatment for illegals.

Strong conservatives like Franklin Graham(son of Billy Graham), the Southern Baptist Convention, Catholic Bishops Association, and the United Methodist Church(Sessions denomination) would never object to a policy that separates children from their parents.

Oh wait - they all have, because its the decent and moral thing to do.
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We prohibit cruel and unusual punishment which this is.

Any difference in the nature of this crime and your comaprator offenses perhaps?

Also this Has been applied to asylum seekers. Seeking asylum at a port of entry to the US is not a crime.
If parents are placed in jail or a holding cell where exactly should we put these kids? In jail with the parents?

What is your suggestion? What should we do when a family illegally crosses the border? These people know if they are caught they will be separated, yet they still come. I should care more about their children than they do? These folks are willingly endangering their children but that’s okay? Gtfo here with your bleeding heart bull****

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If parents are placed in jail or a holding cell where exactly should we put these kids? In jail with the parents?

What is your suggestion? What should we do when a family illegally crosses the border? These people know if they are caught they will be separated, yet they still come. I should care more about their children than they do? These folks are willingly endangering their children but that’s okay? Gtfo here with your bleeding heart bull****
Yes family detention is an option - especially when the government has no clear plan to put the families back together after these illegals are released(which they invariably are for time served).

Also it is illegal to separate asylum seekers from their children.

Yes you should care about how our society and government treats innocent children, whether or not their parents do. No one said it was Ok for parents to endanger their children but that doesn't absolve us of the moral responsibility to treat those children properly.

Glad to know my bleeding heart bull**** is supported by Catholic Bishops, evangelicals and Baptists. All the very definition of bleeding heart suckers.
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Yes family detention is an option - especially when the government has no clear plan to put the families back together after these illegals are released(which they invariably are for time served).

Also it is illegal to separate asylum seekers from their children.

Yes you should care about how our society and government treats innocent children, whether or not their parents do. No one said it was Ok for parents to endanger their children but that doesn't absolve us of the moral responsibility to treat those children properly.

Glad to know my bleeding heart bull**** is supported by Catholic Bishops, evangelicals and Baptists. All the very definition of bleeding heart suckers.

I am an atheist. I don’t really care if wizards, priests or Harry Potter support something. I do find it ironic that Catholics are in the same sentence as children..you know how that goes. I guess when you need them they are not all that bad?

How are the children being treated? I’m sure it’s not all roses and rainbows but screw it the parents don’t care. How come no one is calling out the parents? They are just poor third world savages right? Since the parents have shown they cannot support the children or make sound decisions for their children maybe separating them is the best thing for the kids

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