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Old 05-27-2018, 05:45 AM   #51
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“If falsehood, like truth, had only one face, we would be in better shape. For we would take as certain the opposite of what the liar said. But the reverse of truth has a hundred thousand shapes and a limitless field . . . . A thousand paths miss the target, one goes to it.” - Montaigne


Trump’s manoeuvres are no less odious for their shrewdness. His brazen attempt to discredit federal investigators by frontally attacking the Justice Department’s independence is a dangerous and despicable attack on the rule of law that should be added to the ledger of the president’s impeachable offences.

Which does not make the attack criminal. Trump’s firing of FBI director Comey arguably obstructed justice, a criminal act. Mueller’s investigation will shed light on this matter, though obviously not to the satisfaction of those who insist the president enjoys plenary control over all executive appointees and thus can fire whom he wants, when he wants and for whatever reason he wants – including to frustrate an ongoing criminal investigation of the president’s own activities.

But no such charge can be levied against the president here. In ordering the investigation of his investigators, Trump has committed no crime. No law bars the president from doing what he has done. Rather, we are in the world of norms, precepts essential to the functioning of a constitutional democracy.

In a recent article, the law professors Bruce Green and Rebecca Roiphe ask: “Can the president control the Department of Justice?” The question is a bit like asking: “Can you drive 95 miles per hour?” On one level the answer is clearly no. But on another, things are murkier; if there are no police around to stop you, you can drive as fast as you please.

In the president’s case, long-standing practice and long operative norms counsel that the president must respect the independence of the Department of Justice. A president who, for example, demanded that federal prosecutors file trumped up charges against a despised journalist would be guilty of a grave violation of these norms. But can he do it? We are back to our reckless driver. Who can stop him? Prosecutors might balk from following the directive; they could resign rather than do the president’s bidding.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...tment-rule-law

We're watching as Trump erodes the office of the presidency itself.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:19 AM   #52
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Today's Trump lie:

Trump accuses Mueller team of 'meddling' in midterm elections

President offers no proof for allegation about special counsel investigators and says Democrats are guilty of ‘collusion’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rats-collusion
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:17 AM   #53
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-rep-t...031951293.html

Gowdy finally holding some ground.
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Today's Trump lie:

Trump accuses Mueller team of 'meddling' in midterm elections

President offers no proof for allegation about special counsel investigators and says Democrats are guilty of Ďcollusioní
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rats-collusion
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President Trump’s torrent of misleading statements and flat-out lies has an army of journalists working 24/7 to set the record straight. To help those who focus, as we do, on climate, energy, and other environmental issues, NRDC will call out Trump whenever he distorts the facts about such matters. Here, we offer our inaugural edition of Trump Lies. We expect to update it regularly.
https://www.nrdc.org/trump-lies

It's amazing how many out-and-out lies Trump told about climate issues in his first year in office. It goes on for pages. The ****-bag really doesn't even care if anybody knows he's lying through his teeth.
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Old 06-02-2018, 01:23 AM   #57
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Pathological liar.

President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims in 497 days

In the 497 days since he took the oath of office, President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checkerís database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president.

Thatís an average of more than 6.5 claims a day.

When we first started this project for the presidentís first 100 days, he averaged 4.9 claims a day. But the average number of claims per day keeps climbing as the president nears the 500-day mark of his presidency.

In the month of May, the president made about eight claims a day ó including an astonishing 35 claims in his rally in Nashville on May 29.

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University launches cry closet.

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Lying scumbag.

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Among the countless, specious, and previously debunked claims made by Trump during his Nashville lie-a-thon last night were: that Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, supported MS-13 (Pelosi has never said this), that illegal border crossings had declined 40 percent (they recently increased), and that tax cuts he signed into law last year were the largest in history (they rank 12th). He also incorrectly described other countries as not “sending their best” through the diversity visa program (applicants enter of their own volition), claimed construction had begun on his border wall (it hasn’t), insisted Mexico will pay for it (they wont), and said that the suspect in the Manhattan truck attack in October had sponsored two dozen family members through “chain migration." Then, led the crowd in booing a man (John McCain), who is dying of cancer.
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So now, Rudy Ghouliani and the "Legal TEam" wrote in a letter that Dotard Don DID dictate the press release describing the June Tower meeting by Jr. and others. So, an admission the Mueller that Dotard Don lied. Not a crime specifically, but adds to the Legend of Dotard Don and the Screwing of America. McCarthy was asked on CNN about the lie, and he did the "honorable thing": ignored the question.
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:21 PM   #64
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Today, Trump issued a proclamation calling his time in office so far, "500 Days of Greatness!"
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ican-greatness

Oh, he also says he can pardon himself whenever he wants to. We common folk are witnessing the rise of King Donald! All hail!
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Did anyone ever doubt for a second before his ghastly Monday morning tweet that Donald Trump would pardon himself? Of course he would. He will do anything he can get away with. Anyone who doesn’t by now acknowledge that is being intentionally stupid.

His lawyers have conveniently affirmed for us that he’ll do anything he can get away with. They say he could murder someone. They say that by definition he can’t break the law—any law. Rudy Giuliani says Trump shouldn’t testify because he might perjure himself; on the one hand, that’s a normal thing for a defense lawyer to say, but on the other, it’s a total through-the-looking-glass moment, because the presumption behind Giuliani’s statement, a presumption we have all tragically come to accept as a given, is that there’s simply no chance that the president of the United States can sit there for one afternoon and not tell a pack of lies.

We are in a crisis, and it’s a crisis of certainty, because we know that the showdown is inevitable. With another president and another lawyer and another political party, we could hope that some combination of the law and respect for constitutional norms would bring them to heel. But with Trump and Giuliani and this Republican Party, we have every reason to think the showdown is unavoidable.

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he won't have to pardon himself.
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Pull those blinders on nice and tight. This Manafort tampering charge means nothing. None of anything means anything. Why. Because Trump is the greatest!
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Has Trump ever made a deal that didn't lead to bankruptcy? His (mostly ghostwritten because the ****head couldn't write a post card) book should have been called, The Art of the Bail-Out. After all, Trump had burned so many bridges behind him that the only bank left that would even talk to him was Deutschebank, and the ONLY reason they would talk to him is because the Russian mob was backing his play.
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Has Trump ever made a deal that didn't lead to bankruptcy? His (mostly ghostwritten because the ****head couldn't write a post card) book should have been called, The Art of the Bail-Out. After all, Trump had burned so many bridges behind him that the only bank left that would even talk to him was Deutschebank, and the ONLY reason they would talk to him is because the Russian mob was backing his play.
It would appear not.

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The problem is that, as far as we know, none of those texts mentioned anything about there being a counterintelligence operation against the Trump campaign as early as December 2015. So where the hell did the president come up with that idea?

ThinkProgress’s Judd Legum did some sleuthing and seems to have pieced together the series of events that led to this tweet. It goes roughly like this:

On Monday afternoon, an anonymous Twitter account notes that Page texted Strzok in December 2015 about “oconus lures,” which in FBI parlance means intelligence operations aimed at arresting someone outside the continental United States. The texts do not mention Trump at all, and likely had nothing to do with him, since the FBI’s investigation into Trump didn’t open until July 2016. That didn’t stop the anonymous Twitter user from speculating that this might be “an admission that the FBI wanted to run a baited Sting Op using foreign agents against Trump.”

Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump blog with very low editorial standards but a surprisingly wide readership on the right, picks up the tweet in a Monday article titled “Breaking: Senate releases unredacted texts showing FBI initiated MULTIPLE SPIES in Trump campaign in December 2015.”

By Tuesday evening, the story has spread to Fox. At 7:22 pm, Fox Business host Lou Dobbs tweets about the oconus lures texts.

At 8:37 pm on Tuesday, Trump sends his tweet about the conspiracy theory.

About an hour later, Fox News host Laura Ingraham says on air that “when you read those texts, it certainly looks like they [the FBI] were trying to put more lures into the campaign in December 2015.” Republican Rep. Ron DeSantis, one of her panelists, agrees with Ingraham’s interpretation, saying that it is now “clear” that the FBI investigation into Trump started earlier than July 2016.

So what happened, it seems, is that a conspiratorial interpretation of texts between two FBI employees, one entirely unfounded in the actual evidence, got laundered from the fringe right-wing media to the right-wing mainstream through Fox News personalities — and eventually reached up to a member of Congress and the president of the United States.

This says something profound about the way the country is broken today — about how Trump and the conservative media have combined forces to warp the way millions of Americans understand the world around them.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/6/6/1...te-fox-twitter
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