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Old 02-14-2018, 07:21 PM   #451
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And he won't be there after pick 5...
Love him/hate him, There's already teams in love with his attributes.
No way he falls past 5 Way too many teams need a QB in this league
If Baker Mayfield is sitting there at number five, I hope another team offers the Broncos a boat load of draft picks in trade, and the Broncos trade down. Baker Mayfield is not worth the number five pick.
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Old 02-15-2018, 08:06 AM   #453
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If they care about something like that they’re imbeciles.
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If they care about something like that they’re imbeciles.
If Baker cares about a Bucky Brooks article what's he going to do when Twitter is killing him after his first bad game. He seems a bit sensitive but maybe that's what makes him great.
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If Baker cares about a Bucky Brooks article what's he going to do when Twitter is killing him after his first bad game. He seems a bit sensitive but maybe that's what makes him great.
I mean he’s one of those guys with a Mt. Everest-sized chip on his shoulder. That’s kind of his thing. I’m sure he’ll do some sparring with the media. I just don’t see the issue.
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It’s an easy comparison to make: Both Wilson and Mayfield are undersized for the position, stout and durable, and both extend plays with their feet while keeping their eyes up. But the traits and experiences that make Wilson a franchise quarterback and Mayfield one of the most prolific passers in college football history go deeper than that.

The differences become apparent to Bevell within the first hour of Mayfield’s film cutup. We’re watching the Ohio State game (the one when Mayfield planted the OU flag at midfield) in full, then a handful of scenarios including third down throws against pressure, and red-zone passing against four of the best defenses Oklahoma faced this season (Iowa State, TCU, Ohio State and Georgia).

During Wilson’s final season at Wisconsin, in 2011, then-Badgers offensive coordinator Paul Chryst was running what could generally be described as a pro-style offense. There were traditional progression reads, with Wilson spending time under center and running some of the bootleg passing plays he would eventually master in the NFL. In the three hours of Oklahoma film we watched on Wednesday, Mayfield got under center just once, from inside his own 5-yard line, to throw a play-action pass to the fullback, a position that gets about as many reps in Lincoln Riley’s offense as the pair of white ponies who pull the Sooner Schooner across the home field after Oklahoma scores.

But that’s not uncommon. Very few quarterbacks coming out of major college football today have experience under center. Still, Oklahoma’s Air Raid offense carries a stigma that others don’t. Specifically, very few of its graduates have had success in the NFL (think of the string of Texas Tech quarterbacks who led the conference in passing yards and fizzled out as pros).

“The history of some of those guys hasn’t been real positive,” Bevell says. “There are more guys that haven’t played well than have. Spread out, dink and dunk stuff. I don’t know how they would describe it, because I haven’t talked to these coaches about it, but the NFL guys would say the quarterbacks don’t have to do very much.

“There’s more to do in the NFL, whether it’s making reads, progressions, making Mike linebacker declarations, changing protection, those kinds of things. Maybe they would tell you they’re doing that. But when you stand there, look over to the sideline to get a call, and then run the play, you’re not doing it. That doesn’t mean they’re not capable, but there’s a learning curve.”

Much of the Oklahoma offense doesn’t necessarily translate to the NFL, including a heavy reliance on smoke throws to wide receivers as soon as the ball is snapped, shallow crosses and elaborate screens with linemen and receivers blocking downfield earlier than NFL rules allow. A staple of the Oklahoma offense is a play-action pop pass from a two-back shotgun set that requires Mayfield simply fake a handoff and drop the ball over the head of the approaching linebacker and into tight end Mark Andrews’ waiting mitts.

“Few teams run that,” Bevell says of the NFL. “For one thing, defenses are better in the NFL and can handle this. With the play-action, you want to build stuff off of things you actually run, so it looks the same. Oklahoma runs some of these handoffs, but few [NFL] teams have this in their scheme.”
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