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Old 10-18-2014, 03:06 PM   #1051
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I am a dumbass. I know nothing about sports and just look at numbers and see which is bigger.
What a coincidence. We agree with each other.
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Old 10-18-2014, 03:33 PM   #1057
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9 for 18, 108 yards is Tebow status.
So is 12 for 22
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Whoa there buddy... 4 words - keep your wife away.
You claim to be pretty smart and and I'm sure you are but what confuses me is your inability to understand that it's simply my personal preference to have Wilson over Newton.
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You claim to be pretty smart and and I'm sure you are but this is what confuses me is your inability to understand that it's simply my personal preference to have Wilson over Newton.
People are not allowed to have an opinion on the Mane. Each individual posters thoughts are the only correct ones.
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So is 12 for 22
No. It's not.

Not only are you in double digits completions - you're over 50%.

Big Ben made a living early in his career with low double digit completions.

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You claim to be pretty smart and and I'm sure you are but what confuses me is your inability to understand that it's simply my personal preference to have Wilson over Newton.
I do get that but most of my rants in this thread have been toward other posters.
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I do get that but most of my rants in this thread have been toward other posters.
Yes, I'm sure that is why you change my posts and bring family into our civil discussion.
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So is 12 for 22
Elway carried **** teams to make the SB, talk to me when Wilson does that.

Breaking he wont do that because hes not that type of player.
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Old 10-18-2014, 06:01 PM   #1064
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Which leads us back to the beginning of the post. Look at all these morons claiming Tebow is the real deal.
I made that poor bastard my b*tch in this thread! No wonder he has me on ignore!
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Because he's not asked to throw the ball much, dumbass.

He's never thrown 40 passes, NEVER won a game in which the other team scores 25+ points.

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He won a ****ing playoff game with a line of 9/18 for 108 yards. Thats Tebow status.
Sounds like Elway's stat from super bowl 32.
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Well no **** those are going to be better - are we going to judge their team, defense, talent, coaching staff, and system? Better W/L record? Are you ****ing kidding me? So Wilson's W/L is better than Aaron Rodgers I guess he's better than Rodgers too.

That's why I emphasize WATCHING football. You compare these stats yet the variables that are out of control of both QBs that factor into these stats are dramatically different.

You really think Wilson would be leading in this stats had they switched teams?

This is beyond opinion - this is absolute stupid logic.
lulz. You want to talk logic after ignoring that Wilson is better in just about every way you can measure a QBs performance in favor of what you claim to see and silly hypothetical scenarios that have no bearing on reality. What you choose to see is the very definition of opinion.

What I see is one QB who makes the plays his team needs him to in order to give them the best chance to win, and is an involved leader. Then I see one QB who has all the talent in the world and wants everyone to know it isn't his fault if he fails, pouts when the going gets tough, and would rather be considered Superman than humble himself for the betterment of his team.
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Well let's see.

Here's some games from the past couple years.

14 for 28, 126 yards, 0 TD's, 1 INT. Still had a chance to win vs Dal, LOSS.

9/18 for 103 yards in a PLAYOFF GAME. WON.

8/19, 142 yards, WIN.

12/23, 123 yards, WIN.

10/18, 139 yards, WIN.

11/27, 108 yards, LOSS.

Thats from last year, and one game this year.

Most overrated QB in football, if they struggle passing yall will just say he has no one to throw too.
Looks like John Elway's game stats from 1984. You know the year Denver went 13-3 and Elway's' 2nd year in the league. Look it up.

My original point still stands. using the Super Bowl stat line to downgrade Wilson didn't sway anyone to think Cam is better than Wilson.

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Wonder if people are aware @DangeRussWilson is last in the @nfl in passing yards per game at 186. That's past people. #overrated
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Down 14-3, better than Luck/Cam, surely this is nothing, right?
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lulz. You want to talk logic after ignoring that Wilson is better in just about every way you can measure a QBs performance in favor of what you claim to see and silly hypothetical scenarios that have no bearing on reality. What you choose to see is the very definition of opinion.

What I see is one QB who makes the plays his team needs him to in order to give them the best chance to win, and is an involved leader. Then I see one QB who has all the talent in the world and wants everyone to know it isn't his fault if he fails, pouts when the going gets tough, and would rather be considered Superman than humble himself for the betterment of his team.
I have not ignored that Wilson has better stats. Matter of fact - I have addressed that multiple times. Are you retarded? Is your memory short?

Only morons - like yourself - ignore the other variables when taking into account the production of ANY player - talent around them and coaching.

It's not even like Cam and Wilson are close in these areas - Wilson's situation is better than Cam's by a WIDE margin.

The offense Wilson is in is also friendlier.

You have not acknowledged any of these details - yet all you can do is tout stats that any one can find and see which number is bigger. If you truly believe that marks the better player - why are you even having a discussion?

Why are you even trying to convince anyone as if people can't see what number is bigger?

Your stupidity is obvious. Your lack of understanding is laughable. You knowledge of football (and sports) is elementary. The level of your logic and thought process regarding this topic is the same as mine when I was in kindergarten.

1 QB has more wins and more passing TDs and bigger stats - he is OBVIOUSLY better!!!

Lets be honest here - you must be a real idiot in person
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Wonder if people are aware @DangeRussWilson is last in the @nfl in passing yards per game at 186. That's past people. #overrated
Let's not forget the other detail that - Seattle spent this off season trying to change the identity of the team to put the ball in Wilson's hands more and building it around him.

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Make it 21-3, once they pay Russ, they'll have more games like this.
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I certainly don't think he's better than Luck.
Which is why the stat comparison thing is elementary.

You take Luck's name out and just compare purely stats - and Luck is an average QB.
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Let's not forget the other detail that - Seattle spent this off season trying to change the identity of the team to put the ball in Wilson's hands more and building it around him.

You act like Seattle wins in spite of Wilson when posters here are simply pointing out that Wilson executes Seattle's offense extremely well. Seattle has been assembling their team for about 5 years but what got them over the top is Wilson.
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Which is why the stat comparison thing is elementary.

You take Luck's name out and just compare purely stats - and Luck is an average QB.
you can compare it any way, Wilson is a better pro QB than Cam right now. I used the stats as a tangible exhibit. You can point to intangible such as he's a better leader, he's more poised late in games, he's a more accurate passer. His teams have had more success under him.

Using stats to reenforce an argument, in every debate, is much more convincing than using nothing more than moticons and family smack. Please, post why, any reason really that Newton is a better pro QB to this point. I have watched both. And, stats or otherwise, I think that Wilson is a better pro QB than Newton thus far.

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