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Old 03-18-2018, 01:31 PM   #1
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Default Russia election: Vladimir Putin wins by big margin

Russia election: Vladimir Putin wins by big margin

In other shocking news, water is wet and der gaffo is a cowardly turd who won't move to Utopi-, err, I mean, Russia.

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During polling day, independent election monitoring group Golos reported hundreds of irregularities, including:
  • Voting papers found in some ballot boxes before polls opened
  • Observers were barred from entering some polling stations
  • Some people were bussed in amid suspicion of forced voting
  • Webcams at polling stations were obstructed by balloons and other obstacles
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I'm shocked.

I guess if he's going to mess with our election he should mess with his own.
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During polling day, independent election monitoring group Golos reported hundreds of irregularities, including:
Voting papers found in some ballot boxes before polls opened
Observers were barred from entering some polling stations
Some people were bussed in amid suspicion of forced voting
Webcams at polling stations were obstructed by balloons and other obstacles
I wonder if the Rump people were taking notes? Sounds like a future GOP voter suppression scheme in action.
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Can't wait to hear gaffney's take on this...

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Old 03-18-2018, 03:08 PM   #7
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The Poison Putin Spreads

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Beijing — He has stifled his political opponents and enriched friends and cronies. He annexed a chunk of Ukraine, threw moral and military support to Syria’s dictator in a brutal civil war and tried to tip the scales in an American presidential election. For the second time in barely a decade, he stands accused of orchestrating the exotic poisoning of an exiled former intelligence operative in Britain.

So what is it exactly that has made Vladimir V. Putin a hero for the world’s populists, strongmen and others occupying the fringes of global politics, both left and right?

The answer, probably, is all of the above.

For more than 18 years in power, Mr. Putin has managed to defy his critics at home and abroad by ignoring the norms and institutions of the global order that emerged after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Where once he seemed out of step with the liberalizing West, he now seems to be the vanguard of a new generation of leaders — in Turkey, Hungary, Italy and even America — who are challenging it.

He offers no coherent or comprehensive ideology, as Communism once did, but rather an amorphous model for protecting national sovereignty against international organizations, like the European Court of Human Rights, that were created to stifle ugly manifestations of ethno-nationalism.

“I do think these other leaders look at Putin and see not so much an inspiration but a type of permission,” Garry Kasparov, the former chess champion and longstanding critic of Mr. Putin’s rule, wrote to me.

And he is not going away soon. On Sunday, Mr. Putin will be “re-elected” to a fourth term as president after a campaign as choreographed (and as dull) as those before.

Though many have pointed out Russia’s underlying weaknesses — a state-dominated economy eroded by corruption and mismanagement, along with voter malaise — the inevitable result will nonetheless underscore the resilience of the model he has created.

“The fact that he is a colossus on clay legs is irrelevant,” said Nina L. Khrushcheva, a professor of international affairs at the New School in New York and a co-author of the forthcoming book, “In Putin’s Footsteps.” “Perception is more important than facts.”

Mr. Putin, she noted, has mastered the craft of shaping one’s image by imposing state control on the media — television, above all — while carefully corralling dissent on the streets and online. No one would have seen it coming in 1999, when Russia’s first president, Boris N. Yeltsin, plucked Mr. Putin, then his unassuming deputy, out of obscurity and made him president. But Mr. Putin has come to embody the post-ideology, post-fact age of reality television and “fake news” that all the world is experiencing.

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Mr. Kasparov said the West itself shared the blame for Mr. Putin’s enduring appeal as a model of authoritarian leadership. Governments and corporations were too willing to look past his repressive actions against opponents (Mr. Kasparov among them) and the corruption that afflicted the bureaucracy and business. “The real Putin model of government is nonideological kleptocracy,” he said.

“When the free world decided 25 years ago that it was all right to repress your people at home while still enjoying the markets and acceptance of the free world, it was a deal with the devil,” he said. “Instead of liberalizing the dictatorships, the influence flowed the other way, spreading corruption and disdain for democratic ways.”

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Our commercial interests are also helping support a communist dictatorship in China. This is what happens when out-of-control capitalism takes over a nation. Business decisions take precedence over the national interests. Founding principles and ideals are seen as quaint anachronisms when held up against the fervent lust of commercialism for more deals, more profit and more growth. Over a hundred years ago, Teddy Roosevelt said, "The true friend of property, the true conservative, is he who insists that property shall be the servant and not the master of the commonwealth; who insists that the creature of man’s making shall be the servant and not the master of the man who made it. The citizens of the United States must effectively control the mighty commercial forces which they have called into being." We still have not answered that call. Greed won't let us.
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Our commercial interests are also helping support a communist dictatorship in China. This is what happens when out-of-control capitalism takes over a nation. Business decisions take precedence over the national interests. Founding principles and ideals are seen as quaint anachronisms when held up against the fervent lust of commercialism for more deals, more profit and more growth. Over a hundred years ago, Teddy Roosevelt said, "The true friend of property, the true conservative, is he who insists that property shall be the servant and not the master of the commonwealth; who insists that the creature of manís making shall be the servant and not the master of the man who made it. The citizens of the United States must effectively control the mighty commercial forces which they have called into being." We still have not answered that call. Greed won't let us.
"commercial interests"...
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Can't wait to hear gaffney's take on this...

Gaffo and Choda are clinking their vodka glasses in celebration as we speak.
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No US president in the last 100 years has enjoyed the level of support Putin has in Russia. The support is real, believe it.

JFK averaged a 70% approval rating, FDR averaged 63% -- which are the highest of US presidents in the last century. But not even JFK and FDR enjoyed the approval of 77% of voters.

https://www.benzinga.com/general/pol...first-to-worst
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No US president in the last 100 years has enjoyed the level of support Putin has in Russia. The support is real, believe it.

JFK averaged a 70% approval rating, FDR averaged 63% -- which are the highest of US presidents in the last century. But not even JFK and FDR enjoyed the approval of 77% of voters.

https://www.benzinga.com/general/pol...first-to-worst

In answering the Putin question, Russian respondents may seek to confirm their loyalty to the authorities or express their feelings about their country or, more to the point, about their country as seen on national television. Since television and most other media are owned or run by the state, respondents get most of their information from a highly biased source. Even more important is the fact that the average Russianís responses to polling questions are a staple of that same Russianís media diet. Most polling data thus come full circle: the favourable results are highlighted and the unfavourable ones are hushed up, which influences the way people respond to pollsters next time.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ity-propaganda

In other words, if a Russian pollster comes to your door or calls you up, are you going to be the one to say, "**** no. Putin is a gangster. Etc." No. Of course not. Since nothing can be done about his dictatorship, why get you ass in a sling over it?
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The Russian people are not stupid. They understand that Russia is under attack from the USA. They also know that Putin saved Russia from collapse. Whatever else can be said about Putin, Russians know that he is a nationalist first and above all else.

Putin is not owned by Russian oligarchs -- nor by bankers - nor by the Russian equivalent of the US military industrial congressional complex. He is his own man -- which is more than can be said for every US president since JFK.
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The Russian people are not stupid. They understand that Russia is under attack from the USA. They also know that Putin saved Russia from collapse. Whatever else can be said about Putin, Russians know that he is a nationalist first and above all else.

Putin is not owned by Russian oligarchs -- nor by bankers - nor by the Russian equivalent of the US military industrial congressional complex. He is his own man -- which is more than can be said for every US president since JFK.
Ah now I get it. Like Trump you have daddy issues.
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good lord gaffney. Nobody gets 70% of the vote in elections unless you are a Kim or Maduro.

Blatant fraud.
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The Russian people are not stupid. They understand that Russia is under attack from the USA. They also know that Putin saved Russia from collapse. Whatever else can be said about Putin, Russians know that he is a nationalist first and above all else.

Putin is not owned by Russian oligarchs -- nor by bankers - nor by the Russian equivalent of the US military industrial congressional complex. He is his own man -- which is more than can be said for every US president since JFK.
Move to Russia so you can be close to your oh-so-manly heartthrob.

By "bankers" you mean da Jooz.

You're a disgusting sycophant to a murderous thug and all-around scumbag.

80 years ago you'd have fawned all over goddamn Adolf Hitler.
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The Russian people are not stupid. They understand that Russia is under attack from the USA. They also know that Putin saved Russia from collapse. Whatever else can be said about Putin, Russians know that he is a nationalist first and above all else.

Putin is not owned by Russian oligarchs -- nor by bankers - nor by the Russian equivalent of the US military industrial congressional complex. He is his own man -- which is more than can be said for every US president since JFK.
Unadulterated bull****.
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Choda's "insider" source weighs in:

Alex Jones defends the integrity of Russiaís elections: Putin can't be a dictator because he won 76 percent of the vote

Video and transcript: https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2...percent/219686

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Meanwhile Trump's National Security tell him not to call and congratulate Putin. They put a single sentence in all CAPS on the first page of his daily briefing, and he of course calls and tell Putin good job.
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Europe is ****ed




This is how extremist female protest Putin in Russia


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