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View Poll Results: MOST DOMINANT SPORTS FIGURE
Alfred Williams 2 13.33%
Russell Wilson 0 0%
Nick Saban 3 20.00%
Goat-boy Bundchen 2 13.33%
Spencer Haywood 0 0%
Joe Sakic 2 13.33%
Bill Russell 3 20.00%
John Elway - GM 4 26.67%
Submission I 4 26.67%
Submission II 1 6.67%
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:26 AM   #51
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.... but for me,... that would be the 5 year period of Michael Schumacher.
Yeah, him for Formula One, and Jimmie Johnson even more so for NASCAR.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:30 AM   #52
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Just because he's my favorite pitcher of all time, I will at least give a shout out to Pedro Martinez from 1997 - 2003.

Led the league in ERA 5 times (his ERA over that span was something like 2.19). He led the league in WHIP 5 times (only had a WHIP over 1 in 1998 when it was 1.09). Lead the league in strikeouts 3 times, including two season with over 300 Ks (he also led the league in K/9 5 times, including only one season where it was under 10, and that was 1998 when it was 9.7). Won 3 Cy Youngs and finished top 5 in MVP voting twice.

Which is a great run, but the thing I loved was this was in the time of Frank Thomas, Larry Walker, Ken Griffey, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Ichiro, A-Rod, Albert Pujols. He was putting up this insane season against some of the best hitters of all time

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Old 05-17-2018, 09:43 AM   #53
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For your consideration: Charles Woodson


High School
  • Three sport athlete lettering in football, basketball and track and field.
  • In his senior season, he was a USA Today All-America selection and Parade High School All-American and recorded 2,028 yards and 230 points.
  • Receiver of Ohio's coveted "Mr Football" award for the best Ohio football palyer.

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  • As a freshman Big Ten Freshman of the Year. He was named to the All-Big Ten First Team by conference coaches, and second-team All-Big Ten by the media. He led the team with five interceptions and eight takeaways.
  • As a sophomore Woodson set a Wolverine record for pass breakups with 15. Named the Chevrolet Defensive Player of the Year and an AP First Team All-American. He was a finalist for the Jim Thorpe Award and named to All-Big Ten First Team by conference coaches and the media.
  • Junior year he made an acrobatic one-handed sideline interception against the Michigan State Spartans. Woodson had two interceptions in the game.[17] In a game against Ohio State, he returned a punt for a touchdown, made an interception in the end-zone, and had a 37-yard reception that led to Michigan's only offensive touchdown of the game. The win lifted Michigan to the Rose Bowl.[18] Michigan played the Washington State Cougars in the Rose Bowl. Woodson recorded another end-zone interception in the game, helping Michigan defeat the Cougars and win a share of the 1997 national championship.
  • Chuck Bednarik Award, Jim Thorpe Award, Chic Harley Award and Bronko Nagurski Trophy winner.
  • Became first, and only predominantly defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy beating out some guy named Peyton Manning.

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  • NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year
  • 8 time Pro Bowl selection.
  • 3 time first team All-Pro selection.
  • 2010 Defensive Player of the Year
  • Two time Conference Champion
  • Super Bowl champion playing for the historic Green Bay Packers
  • Played 18 seasons in the NFL

I challenge someone to find a player with a more storied resume going all the way back to High School. He's won just about any award somebody can win as a football player.
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Old 05-17-2018, 09:50 AM   #54
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Roger Federer has to be in the discussion. As do Tiger Woods, LeBron James, Floyd Mayweather. and Usain Bolt, among many others.

Some women to consider: Annika Sorenstam, Marta, and Serena Williams.
How about Lindsay Vonn
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:04 AM   #55
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The Pats have been to 4 Super Bowls since 2011, winning 2 of them. We've been to 2, and won 1. So, no, not really.
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Old 05-17-2018, 10:12 AM   #56
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I think you have to look at some pretty interesting names:

Wayne Gretzky: so many of his records will never be challenged.

Michael Phelbs: easily the best swimmer of all time.

Martina Navratilova: over 50 grand slam wins, counting singles and double, has won every grand slam in singles, double and mix doubles. Has won more open tournaments than anyone.

Marit Bjørgen: owns every relevant winter olympian record and every relevant cross country skiing record.
Gretzky. It’s unbelievable how far ahead of everyone else in the hockey world he is. And for how long he did it.

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Old 05-17-2018, 10:36 AM   #57
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Pedro is actually a great choice. IMO the greatest pitcher of all time, and most of that came in a ridiculous 6-year window.

Still Trout is the most dominant, and his dominance is still increasing after 6 years.
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How about Lindsay Vonn
Sure. And Katie Ledecky while we're at it.
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wtf.... Royce was not even the best Gracie fighter much less great at anything mma.

Royce fought in the UFC infancy days when bunch of hacks that knew Karate, Taekwono, Kung Fu and didn't have any experience in full contact. While the rest of the world has been doing full contact for ages.

Kazushi Sakuraba beat the crap out of Royce. Both was in their prime. The Gracies wanted a special stipulation when they fought. No referee stoppage, unlimited 15 minute rounds. Basically either you give up or get knocked out. After the 6th 15 minute round, Gracie corner threw in the towel. Remember, this is not a over the hill Royce, this is him in his prime.

Sakuraba went on to beat other Gracies and be known as the Gracie Killer. Sakuraba amazingly fought at 205, but weights in at 175. Think about it. Jon Jones walks around 245, cuts weight to 205. Sakuraba walks around 175 and weights in at 175. We are talking about a 70lbs weight difference.
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Pedro is actually a great choice. IMO the greatest pitcher of all time, and most of that came in a ridiculous 6-year window.

Still Trout is the most dominant, and his dominance is still increasing after 6 years.
pedro better than Greg Maddux?
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Just because he's my favorite pitcher of all time, I will at least give a shout out to Pedro Martinez from 1997 - 2003.

Led the league in ERA 5 times (his ERA over that span was something like 2.19). He led the league in WHIP 5 times (only had a WHIP over 1 in 1998 when it was 1.09). Lead the league in strikeouts 3 times, including two season with over 300 Ks (he also led the league in K/9 5 times, including only one season where it was under 10, and that was 1998 when it was 9.7). Won 3 Cy Youngs and finished top 5 in MVP voting twice.

Which is a great run, but the thing I loved was this was in the time of Frank Thomas, Larry Walker, Ken Griffey, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Ichiro, A-Rod, Albert Pujols. He was putting up this insane season against some of the best hitters of all time
Greg Maddux

4x ERA leader
Cy Young winner 4 straight years
3x Wins
18x Golden Glove
Had his number retired with the Braves and the Cubs

Cy Young said that Maddux can win 4 straight Cy Young awards but Cy Young can never win 4 straight Greg Maddux award.

One last thing, had a 97.2% first ballot votes vs 91.1% for Pedro.

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Old 05-17-2018, 11:07 AM   #62
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Sure. And Katie Ledecky while we're at it.
when you smash the world record which by the way she herself set, I completely agree.
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pedro better than Greg Maddux?
It's not even close IMO
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The way Maddux pitches the game is beautiful.

His typical outing

Complete game
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Final score 1-0
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alfred williams or russel wilson? WTF

what am I missing?
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Greg Maddux

4x ERA leader
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Cy Young said that Maddux can win 4 straight Cy Young awards but Cy Young can never win 4 straight Greg Maddux award.

One last thing, had a 97.2% first ballot votes vs 91.1% for Pedro.
There's only one actual stat in that list, though.

Pedro put up the same numbers as Koufax, but in possibly the best hitters' era vs. possibly the worst. And in Boston's bandbox, which is why he's the all-time ERA+ leader.

I think the WAR leader might actually be Ryan, but he played a long-ass time. Not that he's a bad choice, though. But I think Pedro has the most concentrated greatness in that Red Sox run.
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Maddux was efficiently dominant in a workmanlike way.

He and the other Braves pitchers were the masters of the down and away strike that was JUST off the plate.

I never liked Pedro, but he made everyone except Enrique Wilson look silly.
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Pat Summitt is another easy call coaches/GM wise.
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wtf.... Royce was not even the best Gracie fighter much less great at anything mma.

Royce fought in the UFC infancy days when bunch of hacks that knew Karate, Taekwono, Kung Fu and didn't have any experience in full contact. While the rest of the world has been doing full contact for ages.

Kazushi Sakuraba beat the crap out of Royce. Both was in their prime. The Gracies wanted a special stipulation when they fought. No referee stoppage, unlimited 15 minute rounds. Basically either you give up or get knocked out. After the 6th 15 minute round, Gracie corner threw in the towel. Remember, this is not a over the hill Royce, this is him in his prime.

Sakuraba went on to beat other Gracies and be known as the Gracie Killer. Sakuraba amazingly fought at 205, but weights in at 175. Think about it. Jon Jones walks around 245, cuts weight to 205. Sakuraba walks around 175 and weights in at 175. We are talking about a 70lbs weight difference.
UFC 1 & 2 champ. No rounds, no weight classes.
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Peyton Manning.
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Except Geno Auriemma has her beat in every major category.
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The amount of booze and/or drugs consumed by Buff when he came up with that list.
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