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Old 05-18-2018, 07:19 PM   #76
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:52 PM   #77
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Old 05-19-2018, 03:22 AM   #78
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He had Peyton Manning for years and got one ring. He isn't very good
Yeah, the young PM. kubiak got the old crappy PM and got him a ring. But Who is in the HOF?
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:09 AM   #79
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PAy him $10 million a year Then you are a fool
Everyone crying over how much he is getting paid. If it doesn't affect the salary cap it shouldn't matter. VJ is terrible and I would be glad to pay even an average coach 10m if it meant VJ was gone.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:21 AM   #80
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Everyone crying over how much he is getting paid. If it doesn't affect the salary cap it shouldn't matter. VJ is terrible and I would be glad to pay even an average coach 10m if it meant VJ was gone.
No one caress bout his $10 million salary if he succeeds, but he is going to fail miserably... then the raiders will just look like fools as Gruden slips off into retirement... again.
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:55 AM   #81
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He had Peyton Manning for years and got one ring. He isn't very good.
He isnít very good. He only went to the playoffs 11 times in 13 years.

He took over a team in Tampa in 1996 that had 13 consecutive losing seasons, 12 seasons with double digit losses. He took that team to the playoffs 4 out of 6 years and left them with one of the best defenses of all time.

He took over a team in Indianapolis that went 42-42 under four years of Mora/Manning. He never missed the playoffs with them.

Dungy averaged 10.7 wins per season for 13 seasons, the best mark in NFL history, but he isnít very good.
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Old 05-19-2018, 09:43 AM   #82
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He isnít very good. He only went to the playoffs 11 times in 13 years.

He took over a team in Tampa in 1996 that had 13 consecutive losing seasons, 12 seasons with double digit losses. He took that team to the playoffs 4 out of 6 years and left them with one of the best defenses of all time.

He took over a team in Indianapolis that went 42-42 under four years of Mora/Manning. He never missed the playoffs with them.

Dungy averaged 10.7 wins per season for 13 seasons, the best mark in NFL history, but he isnít very good.
He averaged a 9-7 record with a loaded Tampa Bay team that lacked a QB. He then averaged a little over 12-4 with the greatest regular season QB of all-time. John Fox averaged almost 13 wins per season with the same QB. Also Dungy had a losing record in the playoffs. He was an adequate coach, not a great one.
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Old 05-19-2018, 10:03 AM   #83
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He averaged a 9-7 record with a loaded Tampa Bay team that lacked a QB. He then averaged a little over 12-4 with the greatest regular season QB of all-time. John Fox averaged almost 13 wins per season with the same QB. Also Dungy had a losing record in the playoffs. He was an adequate coach, not a great one.
Broncoandrew said he wasnít any good.
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Old 05-19-2018, 11:49 AM   #84
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He seems to be a man of his words. He wants to take the Raiders back to 1998 and he has definitely assembled a bunch of guys who can collect social security soon. The booze seems to be kicking his ass for aure.
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Old 05-19-2018, 03:57 PM   #85
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Unanswered questions on Gruden's part, he doesn't have to underly Al anymore, just dominate the Kooky gruden lookalike owner. He is cooking the dinner and serving the meal.


Picking the groceries.
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Old 05-19-2018, 04:28 PM   #86
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He took HOF coach Dungyís perennial Super Bowl contenders to the SB in 2002 and hasnít done **** since.
He built a weak team of aged vets with an O based around a dink and dunk QB and short timing passing game. They didn't have much competition in the AFC the year Oakland made it to the SB. Then Chucky exposed how weak that team was with Dungy's nasty D and another nobody QB and simple timing O then couldn't go back because he didn't have a real QB.

Carr is the best QB he has ever had but the rest of the team isn't as stocked as the Chargers or even as stocked as we are.

Our biggest issue is coaching though, I don't have a lot of faith in VJ figuring things out right away though his talent should carry him.
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