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Old 11-27-2018, 12:50 PM   #201
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For a guy who sees invisible conspiracies and deep state connections all over the place, you seem to have a conflict with the obvious.

Assange was visiting with Manafort numerous times. He was also visited (nine times) by the personal lobbyist of one of Russia's biggest oligarchs and Putin's closest pal. Do the math.
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Old 11-27-2018, 12:53 PM   #202
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For a guy who sees invisible conspiracies and deep state connections all over the place, you seem to have a conflict with the obvious.

Assange was visiting with Manafort numerous times. He was also visited (nine times) by the personal lobbyist of one of Russia's biggest oligarchs and Putin's closest pal. Do the math.
The obvious? What am I supposed to infer? Assange has met with countless political dignitaries. He's met with Pamela Anderson too. Why do I have to guess at what you're driving at? Why don't you just come out and say it?
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Old 11-27-2018, 12:54 PM   #203
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Why does it matter in the least IF Assange met with Manafort (we don't even know that this is true given it's from so-called "anonymous sources"? Everything Assange has done is protected speech.
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Old 11-27-2018, 01:55 PM   #204
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I wonder if given the final Meuller report Assange would publish it
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:03 PM   #205
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For a guy who sees invisible conspiracies and deep state connections all over the place, you seem to have a conflict with the obvious.

Assange was visiting with Manafort numerous times. He was also visited (nine times) by the personal lobbyist of one of Russia's biggest oligarchs and Putin's closest pal. Do the math.
TJ has the same blinders he accuses others of having.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:15 PM   #206
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Collusion.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:28 PM   #207
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Collusion.
Collusion (secret cooperation) isnt a crime. There is nothing illegal about Manafort meeting with Julian Assange. There is nothing illegal about Roger Stone learning about Julian assange's publishing schedule.
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:04 PM   #209
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Collusion (secret cooperation) isnt a crime. There is nothing illegal about Manafort meeting with Julian Assange. There is nothing illegal about Roger Stone learning about Julian assange's publishing schedule.
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:28 PM   #210
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Collusion (secret cooperation) isnt a crime. There is nothing illegal about Manafort meeting with Julian Assange. There is nothing illegal about Roger Stone learning about Julian assange's publishing schedule.
Iím still laughing at anyone thinking this is about collusion. Itís going to come down to money, tax evasion etc. Iím just waiting.
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Two inconsequential, self promoting gadflies gossip about Assange... BINGO!

I sure hope Mueller has more than this.
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:33 PM   #212
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Iím still laughing at anyone thinking this is about collusion. Itís going to come down to money, tax evasion etc. Iím just waiting.
Take it up with Ro...
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Old 11-27-2018, 08:39 PM   #213
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Take it up with Ro...
Actually, what I really want to see is the evidence of Trump laundering money for the Russian mob. He could get fifty years for that.
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Old 11-28-2018, 02:20 AM   #214
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Two inconsequential, self promoting gadflies gossip about Assange... BINGO!

I sure hope Mueller has more than this.
Did you miss the part about "coordinating campaign messages with WikiLeaks" or are you just ignoring it like every other piece of evidence against IQ45?
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Old 11-28-2018, 02:29 AM   #215
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Did you miss the part about "coordinating campaign messages with WikiLeaks" or are you just ignoring it like every other piece of evidence against IQ45?
Even if that were true... Even if Assange was relaying talking points directly to Trump himself, that'a not illegal. Hillary Clinton hosted special media dinners and her ampaign colluded with Maggie Haberman. That wasn't illefal either.

I'm not ignoring anything. I'm just trying to understand why you think it has any impact.

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Even if that were true... Even if Assange was relaying talking points directly to Trump himself, that'a not illegal. Hillary Clinton hoated apecial media dinners and her ampaign colluded with Maggie Haberman. That wasn't illefal either.

I'm not ignoring anything. I'm just trying to understand why you think it has any impact.
It's illegal if tRump's campaign knowingly and willingly accepted illegally obtained materials.
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A publishing schedule doesn't exactly fit that bill. But okay. You guys think you've got him now. I'm content to watch this play out, but so far that looks like the Guardian backpedaling.
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There goes the Seth Rich bull****, up in flames.

Russian hackers weren’t the ones behind the theft of Democratic emails that upended the 2016 presidential race, conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi told his InfoWars fans last year. Instead, Corsi said, Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich had stolen the emails and was murdered in revenge for the heist.

But Corsi was lying. In an email to Trump confidante Roger Stone in 2016, Corsi acknowledged that hackers were behind the email theft, according to newly released messages.

Despite that admission, both Corsi and Stone played key roles promoting the conspiracy theory about Rich. Stone became one of the first major figures in Trump’s orbit to suggest Rich was murdered over the emails, tweeting on August 10, 2016 that Rich had “ties to DNC heist.”

In 2017, after Rich’s parents begged right-wing media personalities to stop pushing conspiracy theories about their son, Corsi put the blame for the email theft on Rich in a three-part InfoWars series.

In his InfoWars posts and a series of YouTube videos, Corsi portrayed Rich as a disaffected supporter of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) who stole the emails to get revenge against the DNC and paid for it with his life. Corsi wrote Rich had clearly been “implicated in breaches of email systems.” The young staffer was, according to Corsi, the “likely perpetrator.”

Corsi’s theory helped fuel conspiracists on the right who claim, without evidence, that Rich was murdered on the orders of Hillary Clinton. But emails from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia show that Corsi knew all along that it really was hackers who gave the emails to WikiLeaks.

In an August 2, 2016 email, made public Tuesday in draft court papers prepared by Mueller’s office, Corsi told Stone that “hackers” were behind the WikiLeaks releases.


“Time to let more than [Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta] to be exposed as in bed with enemy if they are not ready to drop HRC,” Corsi wrote. “That appears to be the game hackers are now about.”

By August 2016, cybersecurity experts had identified the hackers as Russians and it was widely reported the U.S. government reached the same conclusion.

Corsi’s biggest push for the Seth Rich conspiracy theory came in his 2017 series for Alex Jones’ InfoWars, where Corsi worked as a Washington bureau chief.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/roger-...mails?ref=home

Damn. That Mueller character sure does seem to know a lot.
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I don't know why you think anybody should care about Corsi's assessment...
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:03 PM   #220
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You mean, since he's the guy who invented the lie in the first place?
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[I]Russian hackers weren’t the ones behind the theft of Democratic emails...
... fake news.... blah ... blah....
Damn. That Mueller character sure is a dirty deep state tool..




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Looks to me like the Rich family might now have enough evidence to launch a libel case.
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