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Old 09-19-2018, 01:56 PM   #326
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So the Democrats posting in this thread don't find it the least bit convenient that this information drops when it did? Especially considering the allegations were brought forward in July.



If we put the shoe on the other foot. Justice appointed by Future Democrat-Last minute sexual allegation from HS pops up.


Footsteps-How can you even pretend that Sexual deviancy is a partisan problem? Clinton, Wiener, Etc... Reality is this is a culture problem-Has nothing to do with the D or R.
What difference does the timing of the allegations make if they're true?

You're the one who's implying that the political inconvenience (for tRump and the GOP) of the facts are more important than the truth.
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:49 PM   #328
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:51 PM   #329
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Kavanaugh alibi won't back him up....

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Old 09-19-2018, 02:53 PM   #330
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:07 AM   #331
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“I never did that and also wasn’t at that party which happened on a date, time, and place that has yet to be named.”

Well. That alibi checks out.
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Old 09-20-2018, 06:49 AM   #332
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Fairness is rooted in the idea of principles, precedent, proportionality. Few people in American life witnessed at closer range than Kavanaugh the modern reality that when things really matter—in the way that the balance of the Supreme Court matters—all these fine notions matter less than the cold, hard exercise of power.

So here was Kavanaugh—who spent his early 30s as a Ken Starr warrior pursuing Bill Clinton for the political and legal implications of his most intimate moral failings—now in his early 50s facing a political crisis over disturbingly vivid, passionately contested, decades-old allegations about Kavanaugh’s own possible moral failings.

Few prosecutors, it seems likely, would ever open an assault case—36 years later—on the basis of Christine Blasey Ford’s account of being pinned down on a bed by a drunken Kavanaugh, then 17, and being aggressively groped until a friend of his physically jumped in.

But few prosecutors in the 1990s would have pursued an extensive criminal investigation over perjury into a middle-aged man’s lies about adultery if that person had not been President Bill Clinton. In his zeal at the time, Kavanaugh, like Starr, may have worked himself into a belief that this was about sacred principles of law, but to many others—and ultimately to a clear majority of the country—it was obvious that the case was fundamentally about political power.

Kavanaugh’s fate, too, now depends on precisely the same thing: Do the allegations change the calculation for the perhaps half-a-dozen senators—including Republicans Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska—whose minds were not already made up by earlier political calculations?

With the benefit of hindsight, Kavanaugh later concluded presidents should be shielded from criminal investigations of the sort he helped wage against Clinton. At the time, however, he was filled with righteous indignation. “It is our job,” he wrote colleagues in Starr’s office in an email, “to make his pattern of revolting behavior clear—piece by painful piece.”

Can Kavanaugh and his supporters really be surprised that opponents of his nomination will feel similarly righteous in wanting to examine allegations against him piece by piece?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...assault-219983
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Old 09-20-2018, 09:32 AM   #333
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Fairness is rooted in the idea of principles, precedent, proportionality. Few people in American life witnessed at closer range than Kavanaugh the modern reality that when things really matter—in the way that the balance of the Supreme Court matters—all these fine notions matter less than the cold, hard exercise of power.

So here was Kavanaugh—who spent his early 30s as a Ken Starr warrior pursuing Bill Clinton for the political and legal implications of his most intimate moral failings—now in his early 50s facing a political crisis over disturbingly vivid, passionately contested, decades-old allegations about Kavanaugh’s own possible moral failings.

Few prosecutors, it seems likely, would ever open an assault case—36 years later—on the basis of Christine Blasey Ford’s account of being pinned down on a bed by a drunken Kavanaugh, then 17, and being aggressively groped until a friend of his physically jumped in.

But few prosecutors in the 1990s would have pursued an extensive criminal investigation over perjury into a middle-aged man’s lies about adultery if that person had not been President Bill Clinton. In his zeal at the time, Kavanaugh, like Starr, may have worked himself into a belief that this was about sacred principles of law, but to many others—and ultimately to a clear majority of the country—it was obvious that the case was fundamentally about political power.

Kavanaugh’s fate, too, now depends on precisely the same thing: Do the allegations change the calculation for the perhaps half-a-dozen senators—including Republicans Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska—whose minds were not already made up by earlier political calculations?

With the benefit of hindsight, Kavanaugh later concluded presidents should be shielded from criminal investigations of the sort he helped wage against Clinton. At the time, however, he was filled with righteous indignation. “It is our job,” he wrote colleagues in Starr’s office in an email, “to make his pattern of revolting behavior clear—piece by painful piece.”

Can Kavanaugh and his supporters really be surprised that opponents of his nomination will feel similarly righteous in wanting to examine allegations against him piece by piece?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...assault-219983
What goes around comes around, unless you’re an elite little rich snob with an entitled attitude that you’re above the law but ought to be interpreting it for everyone else since you’re willing to sell out to defend a criminal who holds power. The ultimate betrayal of everything the law is supposed to represent is embodied in this lying little punk.
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Old 09-20-2018, 12:30 PM   #334
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Kavanaugh is the best political ad for Dems possible. Women should be absolutely, deeply disgusted and pissed at the Senate Old Boys; Club, and just vote against them for being old farts with no clues about the issues faced by women.
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Thought provoking read:


Forgiveness for Kavanaugh But Not Young Drug Offenders?

I want Judge Brett Kavanaugh—or someone with the same conservative judicial principles and outlook—to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

But this column is not about that.

“The Charges Against Judge Kavanaugh Should Be Ignored,” read the headline of a Dennis Prager column on Tuesday, in which the conservative radio host made his case that accusations that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted a teenage girl 36 years ago should be dismissed.

“Should anyone be held responsible for crimes committed at 17?” Prager asked.

Good question.
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Also, this isn't a question of whether or not Kavanaugh should be prosecuted. It's for whether or not he should be on the SC. He shouldn't. He's a ****ty republican operative and the only reason he's been nominated is because he's the one most likely to do Trump's bidding.
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Forgiveness for Kavanaugh But Not Young Drug Offenders?

I want Judge Brett Kavanaugh—or someone with the same conservative judicial principles and outlook—to be appointed to the Supreme Court.

But this column is not about that.

“The Charges Against Judge Kavanaugh Should Be Ignored,” read the headline of a Dennis Prager column on Tuesday, in which the conservative radio host made his case that accusations that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted a teenage girl 36 years ago should be dismissed.

“Should anyone be held responsible for crimes committed at 17?” Prager asked.

Good question.
The whole "forgiveness" thing is jumping ahead quite a few steps.
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:28 PM   #338
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he's been nominated is because he's the one most likely to do Trump's bidding.
Uh, you guys and your selective amnesia...

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/1497...ake-deal-trump

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Uh, you guys and your selective amnesia...

https://newrepublic.com/minutes/1497...ake-deal-trump
Please, like Trumps never reneged on a deal before. GTFO.

Also, that's another ****ing reason why he should be disqualified.
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Please, like Trumps never reneged on a deal before. GTFO.
That's one hell of a goal post shift.
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That's one hell of a goal post shift.
No its not. That's the reason Trump likes him. And even if it is for some pre arranged deal with Kennedy, that's actually worse.

Keep defending morons though. Great look for you.
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Keep defending morons though. Great look for you.
If that's the best you've got, I'll take it.
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If that's the best you've got, I'll take it.
I said my piece already.

1) the only reason trump wants him is because he's protecting him.
2) if its some pre-approved deal from Anthony Kennedy, he should be disqualified on that alone.

If you still defend that, and that's the best you got, you're simply a partisan a-hole who pretends he's anything but.
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I said my piece already.

1) the only reason trump wants him is because he's protecting him.
As contradicted by virtually everything reported when he was selected.
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As contradicted by virtually everything reported when he was selected.
Oh my god, seriously, are you ****ing dense.

BOTH CAN BE TRUE, a-hole. Is there gonna be a report where trump says "I want him because he'll protect me from my obvious crimes?" the **** outta here.
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Oh my god, seriously, are you ****ing dense.

BOTH CAN BE TRUE, a-hole. Is there gonna be a report where trump says "I want him because he'll protect me from my obvious crimes?" the **** outta here.
You said "The Only Reason"

While banking on a reason nobody credible even reported when he was nominated. And neglecting what most people said was the biggest reason.

But I guess that's how conspiratorial thinking works. You bend everything back into the theory.
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Somebody has had the contents of their heads stirred with a wooden spoon by the leftist media they have a narrative and some simply repeat it verbatim there is no room for error or mistakes or flat out lies.


Just run with it like a good little tool.
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The whole "forgiveness" thing is jumping ahead quite a few steps.
Why are you complicating it? To make yourself feel better about your stance on it? It's a simple philosophical question about justice. How harshly should people be punished for mistakes made in their youth? It's convenient to dismiss Kavanaugh's possible youthful mistake, as Prager is doing. Something tells me he wouldn't have the same leniency on a drug offender. Shouldn't there be some consistency?
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Somebody has had the contents of their heads stirred with a wooden spoon by the leftist media they have a narrative and some simply repeat it verbatim there is no room for error or mistakes or flat out lies.


Just run with it like a good little tool.
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Why are you complicating it? To make yourself feel better about your stance on it? It's a simple philosophical question about justice. How harshly should people be punished for mistakes made in their youth? It's convenient to dismiss Kavanaugh's possible youthful mistake, as Prager is doing. Something tells me he wouldn't have the same leniency on a drug offender. Shouldn't there be some consistency?
Kavanaugh's already nipped this argument in the bud.

He's categorically denied it. If there's really any provable truth to it, he'll have to step aside.

"Forgiveness" isn't even on the table. The question we have before us is whether anyone in your life who ever knew as much as your name would be able to derail your ever serving in a high office such as this with the simple flick of a pen.
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