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Old 12-08-2018, 07:15 AM   #1
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Default Nancy Pelosi with first bill will open door towards public finance of campaigns

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...1pz?li=BBnb7Kz

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The coming legislation, already known as H.R. 1, involves a holistic approach — covering campaign finance, voting rights and government ethics reforms. One essential feature is a new way to finance campaigns that would combat big money's corrupting influence in American politics.

Wealthy donors and special interests now drown elections in an ocean of influence-seeking and dark money. We can greatly diminish their corrupting influence on government decisions by flooding elections with small contributions, bolstered by robust public matching funds.

The Democrats' bill would do this by creating a system in which small contributions to candidates, up to $200 per donor, are matched with public funds at a 6 to 1 ratio. In return, candidates who participate would agree to a substantially lower contribution limit than the current one.
Definitely a step in the right direction.
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Old 12-08-2018, 07:20 AM   #2
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Good first step. This needs to go the route of an amendment to the Constitution that throws out Citizens United and every ruling that sprang from that. 100% public financing of all elections. Period.
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I think each candidate should start with the same amount of money and let the best man or women win/earn it money shouldn't be a factor.
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I think each candidate should start with the same amount of money and let the best man or women win/earn it money shouldn't be a factor.
This. Plus they should only be given 2 months to make their case. Stop this 2 year campaign cycle.
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I'm pretty skeptical of this given that Pelosi's behind it. There's something they aren't telling us.
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I'm pretty skeptical of this given that Pelosi's behind it. There's something they aren't telling us.
Surprised to see the differences between a democratic lead house vs a republican lead house?
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This. Plus they should only be given 2 months to make their case. Stop this 2 year campaign cycle.
2 months is not enough time. It takes a while for candidates to be publicly vetted. You got primaries to think about as well.
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2 months is not enough time. It takes a while for candidates to be publicly vetted. You got primaries to think about as well.
Then you need to lengthen congressional terms or shrink districts and essentially double the size of the the House. Those people spend more time running than governing.
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Then you need to lengthen congressional terms or shrink districts and essentially double the size of the the House. Those people spend more time running than governing.
Congressional terms should be 4 years not 2.
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2 months is not enough time. It takes a while for candidates to be publicly vetted. You got primaries to think about as well.
It was a spitball. Campaign season is way too long now. Public vetting for the most part is crap because most people aren’t paying that much attention for one and by month 2 all the ads are skewing negative which makes any vetting more convoluted.
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Good first step. This needs to go the route of an amendment to the Constitution that throws out Citizens United and every ruling that sprang from that. 100% public financing of all elections. Period.
A possible good outcome of a Constitutional Convention.
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Surprised to see the differences between a democratic lead house vs a republican lead house?
No. Surprised that 78 year old Pelosi has changed since she was in charge when she was 70 years old. Can’t teach a old dog new tricks.
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I think non-voters shouldn’t have to pay for this political crap. It’s not like there’s much difference between Trump and Hillary, and they get the most donations. Thus, they will get more of my money to help them achieve what I’m hoping they fail at. Why should third parties like me have to pay more them? I want everybody to pay for my candidate.
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Surprised to see the differences between a democratic lead house vs a republican lead house?
Does it hurt to be so naive? I mean Pelosi's whole career has been built on big money donations, so this move just doesn't make sense for her. It's okay to not swallow the horse **** either party tries to feed you. You know that right?
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I think non-voters shouldn’t have to pay for this political crap. It’s not like there’s much difference between Trump and Hillary, and they get the most donations. Thus, they will get more of my money to help them achieve what I’m hoping they fail at. Why should third parties like me have to pay more them? I want everybody to pay for my candidate.
Well then, dumbass non-voters should vote then.
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I think non-voters shouldn’t have to pay for this political crap. It’s not like there’s much difference between Trump and Hillary, and they get the most donations. Thus, they will get more of my money to help them achieve what I’m hoping they fail at. Why should third parties like me have to pay more them? I want everybody to pay for my candidate.
Public financing would make politicians accountable to the taxpayers.
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People who don’t drive still pay taxes that pay for roads. People who don’t have kids still pay taxes for schools.

And they should. Suck it up buttercup.
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This might work but I still support a national initiative process to keep lawmakers honest.
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I'm pretty skeptical of this given that Pelosi's behind it. There's something they aren't telling us.
Exactly when was the last time either party passed legislation that would limit their access to funding?

Why not a spending cap depending on the which office the candidate files for, it works in the NFL.
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And if a candidate broke the spending limit, ie violated campaign finance laws, you’d have people like here on this board going “HURRR SOOOOO? WE WON GIT OVUR IT”
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Or should I say, “meh”.

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